Looney's Razor

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Looney's Razor

Looney's Razor

@Looneys_Razor

The personality observable in Shakespeare's work is altogether out of relationship with what is taught of the reputed author and the facts of his career.

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Looney's Razor
Looney's Razor@Looneys_Razor·
Today, let's talk Stratfordian chronology. From the age of 13, Stratford man's father cannot leave the house, and thus William's labour is needed to keep his younger siblings fed. Then in 1582-3, he adds three more mouths to the household. Then, we are told, he abandons them,
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wordorigins
wordorigins@wordorigins·
She wore her New Jersey (sorry about that)
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Looney's Razor
Looney's Razor@Looneys_Razor·
Oxford's paid instrument. The one before Stratford man. Remember, the Archbishop of Canterbury himself licensed the publication of V&A, which is Elizabethan soft-porn, and it appoints an Earl as its godfather.
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Looney's Razor
Looney's Razor@Looneys_Razor·
@deveresocietyuk 1.5 to 2.5 decades later, Stratford man arrives in London. Acquires this book & the playscript of Ur-Hamlet & writes a masterpiece. Or maybe the whole "Ur" theory is just an invention to cover the obviously chronological problem for Stratfordians.
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The De Vere Society
The De Vere Society@deveresocietyuk·
On 1 January 1572 Thomas Bedingfield dedicated to de Vere his translation from Italian to English of Cardanus' Comfort. Often known as 'Hamlet's Book', it contains a prefatory letter by de Vere warmly commending his friend's work. hankwhittemore.com/tag/cardanus-c…
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Looney's Razor
Looney's Razor@Looneys_Razor·
Wonderous William! This is the best explanation yet of how Stratford man acquired the means, motive and opportunity to write V&A and get the Archbishop of Canterbury to license its publication.
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Looney's Razor
Looney's Razor@Looneys_Razor·
@alacrates @AldousAsterion As for the identification of Cardano's Comforte as the book in Hamlet, see: #metadata_info_tab_contents" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">jstor.org/stable/3818164… Incidentally, it would already be 20-25 yrs old when Stratford man gets to London. One wonders how he happened upon a copy of it AND the play script of "Ur-Hamlet". Sarcasm off.
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Daniel@alacrates·
@AldousAsterion I've been coming across the figure of Cardano recently - he corresponded with Descartes, and I noticed that Oxford commissioned a work of Cardano's to be translated into English - don't quite understand it yet, but some call this "Hamlet's book" apparently
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Daniel
Daniel@alacrates·
Wondering if there's any connection between gambling 17th century mathematician types, tarrochi cards, theatre, and combinatorial systems
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Looney's Razor
Looney's Razor@Looneys_Razor·
Starting around 1:44: In V&A, blood creates the meleagris flower. It is iconic of Oxford. It is AKA narcissus, linking it to SOTON. And the meleagris genus of birds includes a species called Penelope. All purely coincidental, I am sure. youtu.be/Q6l70pqgQEY
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Looney's Razor
Looney's Razor@Looneys_Razor·
@PouncerNC @deveresocietyuk He is such a ridiculous troll, and will say absolutely anything, no matter how random or nonsensical, in hopes of getting a response. Sad, really. My enjoyment of Twitter doubled the day I muted him.
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Sammy Mendel
Sammy Mendel@sammy_mendel·
@Looneys_Razor @PouncerNC @SmileyBlanton @omniadeo You mean the stuff about how shameful it is being an actor? Sure. I'm giving you that one - I'm asking why he wouldn't circulate Lucrece as Sidney had. Or better still, leak it to be pirated. But you're really gonna find and pay a well-known actor to pretend to be you?
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Looney's Razor
Looney's Razor@Looneys_Razor·
What is the Stratfordian explanation for when and why Wonderous William decided to change the spelling of the family name for Venus & Adonis and Lucrece...and then abandon it. Only for his great friends Heminges and Condell to go back to it?
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Sammy Mendel
Sammy Mendel@sammy_mendel·
@Looneys_Razor @PouncerNC @SmileyBlanton @omniadeo Also Razor, the thing that still puzzles me is why in 1650 no-one came forward, even as Shax was sliding into obscurity for reasons of snobbery - because of the eternal shame of Oxford actually writing good poetry? What was the motivation for protecting the secret by then?
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Sammy Mendel
Sammy Mendel@sammy_mendel·
@Looneys_Razor @PouncerNC @SmileyBlanton @omniadeo Why would you circulate bad poetry, while letting Shax become one of the most famous poets in the land (again, see Parnassus)? You could just leak it to publishers. (I know the pirated version was after Sidney's death - that's an example of how it could work).
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Looney's Razor
Looney's Razor@Looneys_Razor·
@sammy_mendel @PouncerNC @SmileyBlanton @omniadeo FFS: Nothing by Sidney was published in his lifetime. Whatever "leak them to publishers under his name" is supposed to mean, I can't image why you think that is an obvious thing to do instead of using a clever, witty pseudonym.
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Sammy Mendel
Sammy Mendel@sammy_mendel·
@Looneys_Razor @PouncerNC @SmileyBlanton @omniadeo No no, my question is, why wouldn't de Vere just leak them to publishers under his name? Happened all the time. Sidney etc were known thru pirated versions. Why didn't he at least circulate Lucrece privately instead of his absolutely terrible juvenile works?
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Sammy Mendel
Sammy Mendel@sammy_mendel·
@Looneys_Razor @PouncerNC @SmileyBlanton @omniadeo But Sidney is mentioned by contemporary critics as being one of the great poets of the age. Why wouldn't de Vere put his name to V&A or Lucrece, which were the things that Shax actually became known for? He certainly put his name to some pretty poor poems.
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Looney's Razor
Looney's Razor@Looneys_Razor·
@sammy_mendel @PouncerNC @SmileyBlanton @omniadeo I cannot cope with your duplicity. Sidney became a "national hero" by dying, so it has nothing to do with him letting others read his work. And he published nothing. And as you know, de Vere did circulate his work in select circles, including having it performed at court.
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Sammy Mendel
Sammy Mendel@sammy_mendel·
@Looneys_Razor @PouncerNC @SmileyBlanton @omniadeo That one was autocorrect - but Sidney was a national hero who let his works circulate widely in his own name. Why didn't De Vere? Also: by 1650 Shax was a distant third fav behind Jonson & Fletcher, attacked for not having their learning. Why wasn't the cat let out the bag then?
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Looney's Razor
Looney's Razor@Looneys_Razor·
@sammy_mendel @PouncerNC @SmileyBlanton @omniadeo And making William Shakespeare a motely to the view would have been anti-theatre. By "Sydney", so you mean Philip Sidney? He published nothing. It wasn't done. And he was on a very low rung of the aristocracy.
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Sammy Mendel
Sammy Mendel@sammy_mendel·
@Looneys_Razor @PouncerNC @SmileyBlanton @omniadeo But Eliz James and Charles were all pretty pro-theatre. I've heard the shame argument before (Lyly & Beaumont were pretty posh, and apparently De Vere did write plays according to contemporary praise anyway) but why wouldn't he put his name to narrative poems as Sydney had done?
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Sammy Mendel
Sammy Mendel@sammy_mendel·
@Looneys_Razor @omniadeo @PouncerNC @SmileyBlanton But also, why didn't de Vere take credit for Lucrece? Is it possible to imagine someone who had written his terrible poetry writing Lear? Finally, why would he settle for Shax getting rich & famous while he declined into poverty & disgrace?
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Sammy Mendel
Sammy Mendel@sammy_mendel·
@Looneys_Razor @PouncerNC @SmileyBlanton @omniadeo Could you be more specific? Actually, if you could link me to a website that explains *your* view - you must remember a lot of anti-Stratfordians believe different things - then I promise I'll read it.
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Sammy Mendel
Sammy Mendel@sammy_mendel·
@Looneys_Razor @PouncerNC @SmileyBlanton @omniadeo Okay cool, let's start with that then. Why did King James and Charles I wish that de Vere's name be protected? Why did De Vere write bad poetry, not take credit for V&A and die poor and disgraced while the Stratfordian benefited?
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Sammy Mendel
Sammy Mendel@sammy_mendel·
@omniadeo @PouncerNC @SmileyBlanton @Looneys_Razor Well Jonson, in between ripping on Shax, never says to Drummond, 'oh yeah, and he was actually the Earl of Oxford'. Why not? Also, what is a single, strong expression of contemporary doubt? Why did they have to code it, given De Vere's poverty and disgrace (and death)?
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