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Joseph Leavell

@LowerLeavell

"No half-heartedness and no worldly fear must turn us aside from following the light unflinchingly." — J.R.R. Tolkien

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Joseph Leavell
Joseph Leavell@LowerLeavell·
Eleven Personal Resolutions as a Biblical Counselor Seeking to Evaluate the Scientific Understanding of Mental Health Through the Lens of Scripture 1. Resolved: Not to stake my position, my theology, or my reputation as a biblical counselor on a contrarian posture that presupposes the science of mental health always gets it wrong. 2. Resolved: Not to stake my position, my theology, or my reputation as a biblical counselor on a conformist posture that presumes the science of mental health is always right. 3. Resolved: Always to evaluate every truth claim impartially through the lens of God’s authoritative and sufficient Word, remembering that while Scripture is always right and true, human scientific understanding of the body and mind is limited and fallible, and my own knowledge and interpretation of that data as a non-medical professional is even further restricted. 4. Resolved: To take a posture of respectful trust toward those who serve in the medical and scientific fields, recognizing their work of understanding the body is progressing as a gift of common grace, yet to test all claims carefully and embrace only what accords with both sound evidence and the truth of God’s Word. 5. Resolved: Through it all, never to surrender the authority or sufficiency of God’s Word to any other field of study, whether science, archaeology, history, or any other discipline. 6. Resolved: To remain humble and teachable, acknowledging that growth in true wisdom requires both reverence for God’s Word and subsequent attentiveness to the expressive reality of God’s created but fallen world. 7. Resolved: To recognize that insights from scientific research, when consistent with Scripture, may reflect accurate and helpful descriptions of God’s design and the noetic effects of sin on the human body and mind. 8. Resolved: Never to call a physical or mental calamity sin, nor to label a sinful failure as a medical condition, but to discern each according to Scripture and evidence, acknowledging the interrelated ways the body can affect the soul and the soul can affect the body. 9. Resolved: To remember that biblical counseling is not merely an exercise in doctrinal precision but an expression of patient Christlike compassion and care toward those who suffer and struggle both physically and spiritually. 10. Resolved: To depend continually on the wisdom and guidance of the Holy Spirit, who alone enables true understanding, discernment, and transformation in our lives. 11. Resolved: To pursue lifelong learning in both Scripture and human experience, so that my counsel may grow in depth, accuracy, understanding, and grace.
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Seth Troutt
Seth Troutt@Seth_Troutt·
@drewdyck - you're a stand up guy - an upstanding citizen - (writing your joke newsletter) standup comedian - (with your books next to you) standing by your word - (when you finally sit) you won't stand for this
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Joseph Leavell
Joseph Leavell@LowerLeavell·
I remember watching a team of elders stand up to an extremely abusive husband. They positionally and even physically stood firmly in between her and her abuse and said to him, "No more." The husband was furious but rather than being able to beat his wife, he directed his anger towards the elders for "breaking up his marriage." With firm masculine stubbornness designed to protect the vulnerable, they absorbed the verbal blow and threats and remained resolute. The elders, along with the police, would offer her protection because he had abdicated his husbandly role as her protectorate. They disciplined him out of the church for refusing repentance and made sure the wife was set up well with resources and benevolent care. I've actually seen this play out well several times. The protection of women from abuse is one of many unspoken reasons why I believe God designed elders/pastors to be men. Abused women need to see God's design for godly men to be protectors of the vulnerable most pointedly when their husbands are not. It is shameful for men to abdicate that God-given masculine responsibility of protecting the flock from abusive wolves.
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ElaineGolding
ElaineGolding@Elainebks·
@LowerLeavell @Inv3ntive15 You said he was abusive and had to be restrained from beating her. No telling if this was the first time, or if it had been several times and she finally fled to ask for help. Is domestic abuse a crime?
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Joseph Leavell
Joseph Leavell@LowerLeavell·
@Elainebks @Inv3ntive15 Yes, police were involved. Pastors can't dictate the legal consequences but can do their part to not legally cover an abuser.
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Joseph Leavell
Joseph Leavell@LowerLeavell·
@Ben_Dennis_ Women are certainly capable of abuse. Men are statistically more abusive, but it's not a contest. All of it should be dealt with. x.com/LowerLeavell/s…
Joseph Leavell@LowerLeavell

Men are not the only ones capable of abuse. Husbands have a real vulnerability in marriage, not just wives. God designed the husband to be protector which means looking out for threats from without to the blessing of his wife and children. These do not expect or even know what to do with a stab in the back from within. I've seen many men come to counseling because their wives gave them an ultimatum, but refuse to come themselves because "they aren't the ones with the problem." Their husband is a narcissist (which sometimes is true and other times is code for 'we're fighting for control and he won't let me have it without a fight.'). Or, he gets angry and needs to control his temper (which oddly only happens when she dresses him down and treats him like a toddler in front of his kids, friends, and family). "It must be from his childhood, so Joe - fix my husband!" I've invited all these wives to lend their voice in counseling with their husbands because even if these wives had never done anything wrong there is still a tear in the relationship and she will need to be willing to surrender her piece because you need both sides of the coat in order for the zipper to work. I've had wives offended and refuse to return at the question that they may have any role to play in their relational discord or in its repair. Why? Because more than a few wives had brought their husbands to a counselor who they were sure would be the tie breaker in her favor for continued control and are wanting to use Jesus' "husbands love your wives" as leverage for control without herself being willing to subject herself to Christ and to her husband (1 Peter 3:1-6). These are disappointed and sometimes angry to hear they both need to hand the keys of control over to Jesus and follow His Kingdom and His design, not hers. Even if her kingdom may appear to be 'better' than her husband's, it will always be far worse than Jesus'. The reality is, it's an open secret that there are truly women who will tear their own house down with a smile on their face because they perversely enjoy the skill and power of keeping her heels on her husband's neck. Of course she would say it's because she can't trust him with important decisions, but in reality, she has become addicted to control and can't trust that he will always do things meticulously according to her kingdom's demands. But even more egregious, there are men who are hit, slapped, and sometimes far worse by wives who emasculate and punish their husbands who would dare challenge her dominance, and do so sometimes even from dating years into marriage for decades. These husbands won't fight back because they are honorable, shamed and embarrassed, or at least know what would happen to them if they put a bruise in return and the wife called the police. While 1 in 4 women experience some form of physical abuse in their relationship, 1 in 7 men do as well. This isn't a stat to ignore, though many, even within the church, regularly ignore women's roles in marriage by putting the entirely of the relationship on the husband, which only emboldens abusive wives even more. For example, I recently heard a powerful sermon, which at one part waxed eloquent about how men are to treat their wives, giving even details about researching peri-menopause and good advice about how to dwell with her in an understanding way. Lots of appropriate amens...but then he moved on and never once gave a single word to the wives on how to treat her husband. While churches are full of classes for men on how to be better husbands and father's and how to step up at home in loving their wives and kids, where are the classes for women on how to skillfully understand their role as a wife? What is biblical submission, what are some tangible ways to "phileo/love" their husbands and children, how to effectively manage a home, etc. (Titus 2:4-5)? Good luck with that in this culture...but my goodness this level of biblical understanding for wives is sorely needed and entirely within the pastor's mandate to feed the sheep to ensure it happens and is done well! Men aren't stupid and abused husbands perceived that they are seen as the enemy by the church. So husbands of abusive wives learn to avoid the church, their wives, and godly friends, through their work, hobby, or addiction. Then they are scolded for being emotionally unavailable, not prioritizing God, male friendships, or their family. The church and their counselor quickly blame him, claim emotional abuse or neglect. Shoot, I've even seen a church side with an adulterous wife because her husband didn't give her enough emotional support. When she divorces him for not adequately living up to her kingdom's demands, she gets support and care, taking the children, the home, the church friendships, and most of his hard work that he had sacrificed for THEM. She now gets to enjoy, complete with sympathy and affirmation, without him while he still pays many of her bills and only occasionally gets to see his children. He is left entirely alone. While there are a thousand objections to what I am writing from examples of where the husband is the clear abuser or when they both are struggling, it doesn't negate or help the man who is left out to dry when his abusive wife is placated or even sided with. It's true that while men regularly get the book thrown at them, many elder teams treat their wives as near innocent princesses incapable of wrong...and even if she does do wrong, they still say it's the husband's fault. Wise pastors and elder teams need to not be quick to assume the husband is always the exclusive issue. They must do their due diligence and not take one side over the other but remain true to Jesus' side, inviting them both to surrender to His control (James 3 and 4). The issue is always about loyalty to Jesus' Kingdom, never about choosing if the wife or the husband's kingdom is better. Especially in a culture where churches covered up abuse for years, many elder teams are afraid to even give the appearance of not siding with the wife. This has led some to the other side of the ditch where true judgment and biblical wisdom becomes impossible. Elders must never shepherd in fear but with the truth in love. In a culture that worships the feminine, Proverbs teaches us of an abusive wife's capabilities. Though harder to spot and more rare than an abusive man, we would be wise to heed Scripture's wisdom.

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Joseph Leavell
Joseph Leavell@LowerLeavell·
It's really hard in that abusive husbands make it more difficult for husbands who are abused to be seen, and abusive wives make it more difficult for the wives who are abused to be seen.
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Joseph Leavell
Joseph Leavell@LowerLeavell·
Men are not the only ones capable of abuse. Husbands have a real vulnerability in marriage, not just wives. God designed the husband to be protector which means looking out for threats from without to the blessing of his wife and children. These do not expect or even know what to do with a stab in the back from within. I've seen many men come to counseling because their wives gave them an ultimatum, but refuse to come themselves because "they aren't the ones with the problem." Their husband is a narcissist (which sometimes is true and other times is code for 'we're fighting for control and he won't let me have it without a fight.'). Or, he gets angry and needs to control his temper (which oddly only happens when she dresses him down and treats him like a toddler in front of his kids, friends, and family). "It must be from his childhood, so Joe - fix my husband!" I've invited all these wives to lend their voice in counseling with their husbands because even if these wives had never done anything wrong there is still a tear in the relationship and she will need to be willing to surrender her piece because you need both sides of the coat in order for the zipper to work. I've had wives offended and refuse to return at the question that they may have any role to play in their relational discord or in its repair. Why? Because more than a few wives had brought their husbands to a counselor who they were sure would be the tie breaker in her favor for continued control and are wanting to use Jesus' "husbands love your wives" as leverage for control without herself being willing to subject herself to Christ and to her husband (1 Peter 3:1-6). These are disappointed and sometimes angry to hear they both need to hand the keys of control over to Jesus and follow His Kingdom and His design, not hers. Even if her kingdom may appear to be 'better' than her husband's, it will always be far worse than Jesus'. The reality is, it's an open secret that there are truly women who will tear their own house down with a smile on their face because they perversely enjoy the skill and power of keeping her heels on her husband's neck. Of course she would say it's because she can't trust him with important decisions, but in reality, she has become addicted to control and can't trust that he will always do things meticulously according to her kingdom's demands. But even more egregious, there are men who are hit, slapped, and sometimes far worse by wives who emasculate and punish their husbands who would dare challenge her dominance, and do so sometimes even from dating years into marriage for decades. These husbands won't fight back because they are honorable, shamed and embarrassed, or at least know what would happen to them if they put a bruise in return and the wife called the police. While 1 in 4 women experience some form of physical abuse in their relationship, 1 in 7 men do as well. This isn't a stat to ignore, though many, even within the church, regularly ignore women's roles in marriage by putting the entirely of the relationship on the husband, which only emboldens abusive wives even more. For example, I recently heard a powerful sermon, which at one part waxed eloquent about how men are to treat their wives, giving even details about researching peri-menopause and good advice about how to dwell with her in an understanding way. Lots of appropriate amens...but then he moved on and never once gave a single word to the wives on how to treat her husband. While churches are full of classes for men on how to be better husbands and father's and how to step up at home in loving their wives and kids, where are the classes for women on how to skillfully understand their role as a wife? What is biblical submission, what are some tangible ways to "phileo/love" their husbands and children, how to effectively manage a home, etc. (Titus 2:4-5)? Good luck with that in this culture...but my goodness this level of biblical understanding for wives is sorely needed and entirely within the pastor's mandate to feed the sheep to ensure it happens and is done well! Men aren't stupid and abused husbands perceived that they are seen as the enemy by the church. So husbands of abusive wives learn to avoid the church, their wives, and godly friends, through their work, hobby, or addiction. Then they are scolded for being emotionally unavailable, not prioritizing God, male friendships, or their family. The church and their counselor quickly blame him, claim emotional abuse or neglect. Shoot, I've even seen a church side with an adulterous wife because her husband didn't give her enough emotional support. When she divorces him for not adequately living up to her kingdom's demands, she gets support and care, taking the children, the home, the church friendships, and most of his hard work that he had sacrificed for THEM. She now gets to enjoy, complete with sympathy and affirmation, without him while he still pays many of her bills and only occasionally gets to see his children. He is left entirely alone. While there are a thousand objections to what I am writing from examples of where the husband is the clear abuser or when they both are struggling, it doesn't negate or help the man who is left out to dry when his abusive wife is placated or even sided with. It's true that while men regularly get the book thrown at them, many elder teams treat their wives as near innocent princesses incapable of wrong...and even if she does do wrong, they still say it's the husband's fault. Wise pastors and elder teams need to not be quick to assume the husband is always the exclusive issue. They must do their due diligence and not take one side over the other but remain true to Jesus' side, inviting them both to surrender to His control (James 3 and 4). The issue is always about loyalty to Jesus' Kingdom, never about choosing if the wife or the husband's kingdom is better. Especially in a culture where churches covered up abuse for years, many elder teams are afraid to even give the appearance of not siding with the wife. This has led some to the other side of the ditch where true judgment and biblical wisdom becomes impossible. Elders must never shepherd in fear but with the truth in love. In a culture that worships the feminine, Proverbs teaches us of an abusive wife's capabilities. Though harder to spot and more rare than an abusive man, we would be wise to heed Scripture's wisdom.
Anon Jim@TexasStoked

@LowerLeavell Abuse is not a gender issue. The church does nothing to female abusers. There is a huge problem with this.

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Matt Smethurst
Matt Smethurst@MattSmethurst·
The Lord didn’t check who inside the house was worthy. He checked for blood on the doorposts. None of us is worthy. Only the blood of Jesus can cover us.
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Abigail Stetson
Abigail Stetson@AbigailStet117·
@LowerLeavell I've observed this as well. You lost me when you concluded that this is why elders must be men. The reality is that it is almost always women who have to advocate heavily for men to even recognize abuse. Men/women offer different perspectives and were meant to lead together
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Joseph Leavell
Joseph Leavell@LowerLeavell·
@Elainebks I can but not in this context. There are many more who I know do this quietly without making a fanfare.
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Joseph Leavell
Joseph Leavell@LowerLeavell·
@WozzleBaby To be clear, I wasn't trying to give the impression they had to physically restrain him. But they did physically stand between him and her where he would have otherwise beaten her if they weren't present, and said he was done with the abuse.
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Tommy Cripps
Tommy Cripps@WozzleBaby·
@LowerLeavell A guy went after his wife in public so much so that elders had to block him? Not saying I don't believe you, but thats crazy. Usually people at least try to put on airs
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Joseph Leavell
Joseph Leavell@LowerLeavell·
Exactly. It's not a "can" issue but "should." My wife can protect our home from intruders with the right weapon, but shame on me if I tell her to go face them while I hide in the closet. Shame on the elders who leave guarding the flock from wolves to those who they should be protecting.
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Joseph Leavell
Joseph Leavell@LowerLeavell·
@BibleU777 My wife is a momma bear who would gladly die for her cubs. But I would be a horrible horrible man if I stood aside and let her while I stood by and watched.
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Bible U
Bible U@BibleU777·
@LowerLeavell Clearly you've never encountered a momma bear. The fact remains that the Epistles name many women CO-workers in ministry, some of whom had been imprisoned for their faith. If women can die for Jesus, they can speak for Jesus.
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Seth Troutt
Seth Troutt@Seth_Troutt·
I appreciated this brief shout out and plug from Rosaria Butterfield on my forthcoming masculinity book!
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Joseph Leavell
Joseph Leavell@LowerLeavell·
"I acted out." No, you selfishly used the body that God had entrusted into your care to glorify Him, fellowship with Him, and to love your neighbor, to sin against him and your wife through sexual betrayal. Gospel change starts by naming sin as sin.
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Joseph Leavell@LowerLeavell·
Those who fix their gaze on their spouse's performance, looking to justify their own sin, will find it easily. Those who fix their gaze on Christ's performance, looking to justify their own sin, will never find it. Where is your gaze?
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