@thucygga_please@donaldp1917 Its so annoying seeing people portray this as an unwillingness to positively engage with right wingers as if tucker is some run of the mill center right conservative or libertarian
@donaldp1917 If Carlson were someone like Curt Mills, it would be one thing. He’s not. He’s someone who thinks (or pretends to, but I’m not sure anymore) that the world is in the grip of a demonic conspiracy. He’s a loon, and he makes anyone who associates with him look like one too.
@Perhapanaut@shukhayee@GoyEmpanada & while Protestantism plays a big role in American culture, Jews play a huge role in American elite culture due to their over representation of every field relevant to policy making
Believing that the US government is controlled by Israel is a completely rational conclusion to draw at first glance, and getting mad at normal people who think this reveals way more about you than it does about them.
@Perhapanaut@shukhayee@GoyEmpanada This isn’t even mentioning who founded think tanks like WINEP, FDD, CAMERA, etc. or who tends to organize pressure campaigns most often. There’s really no argument for evangelicals being more important than Jewish zionists here
@Perhapanaut@shukhayee@GoyEmpanada and ESPECIALLY historically have been more important to driving the special relationship. The archival evidence is very clear on this.
This isn’t even mentioning the fact that evangelicals are only relevant to GOP and not dems
@Perhapanaut@shukhayee@GoyEmpanada bad for imperialist interests. Why bring up evangelicals and palantir but not this? Its just squeamishness over not wanting to sound antisemitic
In any case even in modern day evangelicals are only relevant for GOP & in both parties aipac and big jewish donors play bigger roles
@Perhapanaut@shukhayee@GoyEmpanada etc all started because of the Jewish lobby and its interventions. The archival evidence makes this very clear. Several srs works have been written on this. This was at a time when the US foreign policy establishment (DOS, CIA, military, etc) all assessed support for israel to be
@Perhapanaut@shukhayee@GoyEmpanada You’re jumping through hoops. You concocted an elaborate fanfiction of American elites wanting to play the white saviour to Jews instead of acknowledging the basic realities of the influence of AIPAC, Adelsons, Kushner etc in kickstarting & maintaining the special relationship
@shukhayee@GoyEmpanada Funny you say that because that's indeed the other factor.
American zionists are primarily white Christians so they get to play genocide while pretending they're saving the Jews from those scary Arabs they're trying to civilize.
Nothing more vile than a white savior after all.
US Cuba policy is extremely irrational. There's no USSR anymore. Cuban government is much less combative than Maduro/Chavez. They're v eager for Obama-style thaw & foreign capitalist investment. Yet it doesn't matter. I struggle to explain it other than "insane neocons in charge"
@Perhapanaut@shukhayee@GoyEmpanada Look at Truman, Eisenhower, RFK, LBJ
The state department consistently opposed support for Israel and presidents explicitly did so time and time again due to pressure of the lobby. It is not disputable that Jewish lobby drove the relationship in minimum the first decade or 2
@Perhapanaut@shukhayee@GoyEmpanada Theres no other country where the US has embedded in its law to ensure its QME. The US has not blocked dozens of arms sales to its most important allies over the desires of Taiwan, Saudi etc
It’s insane to think imperialism explains much even if they’re factors. Its too unique
@Perhapanaut@shukhayee@GoyEmpanada If “MIC” was an important motive for the relationship then why is 🇮🇱 ~3% of US arms exports and eclipsed by countries the US doesn’t have a special relationship w/? Why is 🇮🇱 the only country in the world where the US blocks its arms sales to key MENA allies (losing $$) over?