@Inky61606257 Keep in mind I’m pretty sure he left this out, which is quite important. I could be wrong though, cutting it off at “yeah”
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i never want to read another fucking doc again man. SPENT LIKE 4 HOURS!
anyway, yes i have finished zeals doc and...honestly, its good. there evidence for context (most of the time) theres no pesky extra fluff, so you can just read the evidence how you want to. go read it.
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Also he’s lying, my mom is a nurse that works in a psychiatric unit and deals with suicidal patients almost everyday
When they receive visitors, for the patients’ safety they forbid you from giving them any sort of electronics or any item in general to avoid harming theirselves
Urbanshade@UrbanshadeRblx
with further developments. My family will be posting this document and reply on my behalf. During my stay, my mom has been visiting me, letting me borrow a laptop to write whilst offline, and reading aloud the messages of people who have messaged her.
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HE CUTS OFF the section where she says he did not ask for consent
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@pavidssss @MysticsDarling_ A regular kiss is not the same as using tongue I fear
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@pavidssss @MysticsDarling_ Also, who knows if she asked for a simple one or a heavier one, if she asked for a simple kiss, and receiving a heavier one, she can still feel that way in the last screenshot. Shocked and confused
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it’s insane how we need to say this in order for people to understand and stop villainizing ren and other victims alike.
† zelph ♡s chance@chancesdarling
Btw for the people using this as a "gotcha" for ren; victims are allowed to be angry at their abusers. Victims are allowed to be aggressive at their abuser and supporters. Ren is allowed to have an outburst, especially with so many people defending their assaulter.
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Multiple examples of this in similar cases actually
Pretty sure its common for victims of rape, sexual assault, abuse, and grooming to wish hell on their perpetrator, but at the same time they miss them, or/and they miss the abuse
† zelph ♡s chance@chancesdarling
"but ren said they didnt want zeal hurt!" people can change their minds or have complicated feelings for someone who hurt them. For example; Im a victim of abuse, I'd feel anger and hatred towards my mom, but i didnt want her to actually get hurt.
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The concept of having to explain consent to a grown ass man
yesok@yesokmori
zeal cuts out the part where ren explains consent to him!
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@pavidssss @MysticsDarling_ Yes, she gave consent for a KISS, that is not consent for sex or any other heavier sexual activity, that needs a second consent on its own which was not provided in the moment. Please understand that.
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i find it concerning how this conversation between ren and zeal was brushed over, where ren literally has to explain the concept of consent to zeal. "you need to ask me "can I?"" "you ripped everything off and did things without asking"
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"but but Ren said inappropriate things to zeal about wanting sex!"
Let's highlight some important parts shall we?
"They could say yes to the tea, but change their mind when you make the tea."
"Just because someone said yes to the tea a week ago, doesn't mean they want it now."
Chirpyruko@chirpyruko
Roblox should update it so that if you want to publish a game you need to watch this video for the entire duration and then answer a quiz on it
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@CarmivaHysteric I found this incredibly comforting as I have OCD and often overthink and stress too much about stuff like this situation, and what other think etc
Supporting Ren is important, but so is making sure your own mental health is in check :))
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@CarmivaHysteric I was debating with someone a few nights ago and they said this at the end which I found important
“Do not let this situation weigh too hard on you, in reality we are just people on the internet and this has nothing to do with us”
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I'm going to do my best to not speak on the Zeal/Ren situation until the next doc comes out. i do still side with Ren but I am already exhausted enough from work and school and do not need any more stress or exhaustion trying to educate people on things they can look up
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it’s very clear these people do not know what fawning is or what sexual assault is.
nor do they not know anything about trauma responses. It’s tiring to see people constantly victim blame victims since they do not fit their description of “perfect”
BubBud@bub_bud_
I can't believe that I have to make this tweet. To any zeal supporter coming to me using ren's fawning as "proof" of consent. Please just block me. I've explained what fawning is in my analysis and in countless replies. I'm exhausted. So I'm not doing that anymore.
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I'm very proud of you, Ren. Not only that you never letting yourself down, even beared his manipulations multiple times, but also standing up for those who's still lives in fear because of Zeal.
I don't have any words to say, but thank you for bringing the truth into the light.
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Btw for the people using this as a "gotcha" for ren; victims are allowed to be angry at their abusers. Victims are allowed to be aggressive at their abuser and supporters.
Ren is allowed to have an outburst, especially with so many people defending their assaulter.
Ordinaryong Robloxian@bayaning_roblox
An powerful statement from Ren of #robloxpressure.
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@BluSunFlow ...Zeal has not produced that only showing other times Ren has "consented" and blaming his autism or their bpd or the fact they split and were a dick for a little or whatever and ignoring the fact Ren had literally been breaking down before the initial assault.
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@TsukiPeaches @BaltayanSa79847 @CallMeToph @chirpyruko I actually read the entire thing, but most of this entire situation is a very he said she said situation. So I don’t know how much I believe that considering he could be lying too. We won’t truly know what happened in that hotel room
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@Lurantisz @BaltayanSa79847 @CallMeToph @chirpyruko And he did ask for consent, she GUIDED him through it and told him what to do, you really did not read at all huh
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Roblox should update it so that if you want to publish a game you need to watch this video for the entire duration and then answer a quiz on it
Urbanshade@UrbanshadeRblx
docs.google.com/document/d/1_6… Additional Context and Clarification Regarding Recent Allegations
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