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@aussiesarbear @wisdom_n_wine Ok let's finish this discussion. You can read everything I said in Misha's new thread, it was all discussed in the open if you want to look at it. Have a nice day

@MaOfEvMo @wisdom_n_wine Well, given I didn't say names or give details, anyone you spoke to was because you thought they were acting that way. I explained why I didn't say anything in the substack, I'm now done talking about this, although your 2 sides comment makes no sense as there are no 'sides'.

Was actually enjoying @mishacollins substack chat until a few self appointed dictators decided to impose rules on everyone and make it a lot less fun.

@aussiesarbear @wisdom_n_wine Those I talked to were very sorry and didn't even realise they made people uncomfortable and will be more mindful in the future. You're entitled to your feelings and things did go fast, but kindness and communication is always key in large groups from all sides.

@MaOfEvMo @wisdom_n_wine Then they would know they were the self appointed dictators as I didn't name anyone and I didn't say anything that wasn't true 🤷‍♀️

@wisdom_n_wine @aussiesarbear But! We should keep in mind that Misha's post goes out to both sides. Because I know I would have been hurt by the way you worded your post if I were one of the people. So we should all be kind and mindful of each other please ♥️

@wisdom_n_wine @aussiesarbear Yes and I brought it to attention to people that generally not everyone was happy and we should learn from it. If anything like that happens again please don't hesitate to speak up or reach out I don't mind communicating people's needs if they need help with it.

@aussiesarbear @wisdom_n_wine Why is stuff always happening when I'm asleep 🥲 stupid time zones. That's probably why I miss all the discussions and only see the end results.

@wisdom_n_wine @MaOfEvMo Misha has addressed it now and told people there are no rules other than the ones he and Emily put in place (which are not really rules) and nobody should be bossy towards others 💙

@aussiesarbear @DragonEmbers @mishacollins I hope so, too. 😊

@MaOfEvMo @DragonEmbers @mishacollins I actually wrote out a reply, checked it with others to make sure it wasn't confrontational or anything, but ended up not posting it as I didn't want to get shouted down or told off for not following their rules. Maybe with time it'll sort itself out & people will calm down ☺️

@aussiesarbear @DragonEmbers @mishacollins Thank you for explaining the issue to me, I truly wasn't aware there was one. As you said everyone is as important as everyone else and we should all have a good time. :)

@aussiesarbear @DragonEmbers @mishacollins That's why there is a new slow chat now separated from the forum I thought? I'm not trying to invalidate your feelings in any way. I just think with communication the problem could be solved. Anyway, I'll leave you be now. I hope you'll still find joy in the other chats 👍

@aussiesarbear @DragonEmbers @mishacollins I personally neither enjoy the fast chat nor the many forum categories. But I like the art chat and the free slow chat. Others love the fast chats and the forums. So I'll leave them to it.

@aussiesarbear @DragonEmbers @mishacollins Ok I didn't see that. I only saw the posts from her where she said ok to the Forum idea. And I saw the solution that the free chat and the forum was separated. Again, I'm sorry to hear you and others had a bad experience.

@aussiesarbear Ok I hear you. As far as I see the rules only apply to one chat out of five though. If you're truly interested to stay on substack you and others have to make your needs heard because otherwise no one will know how you feel. Anyway, I hope you'll find fun in it again sometime.

@MaOfEvMo Because people don't feel comfortable yet, as people are already getting in trouble or dismissed for not following these 'rules' why would anyone risk getting shouted down by the self imposed rulers for questioning them. It's just a shame.

@aussiesarbear @DragonEmbers @mishacollins Because I got the impression that most people try to set up different types of chat to get the needs of everyone met. I know that they got the ok from Emily before doing anything. I'm sorry to hear you're not having fun anymore though.

@aussiesarbear @DragonEmbers @mishacollins Sure you're allowed your opinion, I was just confused to hear that because I haven't noticed any backlash in substack. But as I said I'm not involved in any rules or anything. But if you and others don't feel welcome there, perhaps we can find a solution together in the chat?

@aussiesarbear @DragonEmbers @mishacollins If your needs aren't met with the available chats then please talk about it openly and there will be accommodations for you, too. It's important when building something like this that we care about each other, so everyone can participate and have fun.

@aussiesarbear @DragonEmbers @mishacollins What? There is a fast chat and a slow chat. The slow chat has turned into a forum where you discuss things in categories to accommodate people that couldn't participate because they were overwhelmed. Another slow chat was opened for free talk.

@wisdom_n_wine @aussiesarbear @mishacollins I'm sorry but I have to disagree. I wasn't involved but any changes were discussed with Emily beforehand. It was done to accommodate for people who couldn't participate in a constantly going group chat with thousands of people. A free fast and slow chat is still available

@aussiesarbear @mishacollins Wait. I’m not on the chat, so I don’t know. These aren’t mods that Misha and Emily gave power to, these are randos who decided they get to make the rules? And people are just going along with it?

@MyEnochian @mixtapecas They already updated that they will donate in 2026 too but not for the same thing.

@mixtapecas For 2025 which ends in less than 2 months. Let's be real.

I understand the disappointment and I wish if Misha & Emily wanted to start a community thing it would be on discord. With a channel dedicated to places to donate. But everyone needs to understand they are not just charging for content. 100% of the sub $ is being donated

@MyEnochian @mishacollins They both write a whole essay about why they choose the platform, they are accessible without paying. I haven't read them yet, but I got that just like gish was with payment this is, too, because what they do there takes lots of time and it's intended as charity work.

@MaOfEvMo @mishacollins True. I guess what I'm saddened about is M used to 'build community' without the paywalls. He's already got a lot coming in from all those con photos. If he is really working it and giving more online stuff than he would otherwise, great for subscribers then.

I’ve started a virtual speakeasy! I’m chatting with people there right now. Click the link and then go to “The AnteSocial Chat” to say “Hi!” mishacollins.substack.com

@MyEnochian @mishacollins I'm just happy I can join something because no way can I afford a convention again and I'm happy that my money will feed people in need because I am lucky and do have 7€ a month I can donate

@MaOfEvMo @mishacollins Is it for charity? That would make me feel differently (a bit) but things are so expensive - love Misha but paying for access isn't going to happen for me outside of cons where I get to see my girlfriends too. Kind of undoes the sense of community he built for free in the past.

@MyEnochian @mishacollins Only this is much more affordable. And people do have money. The cons are full, the 1000€ tickets are gone in a blink. The several hundred dollar photo ops, too. Instead of a donation call they give something back if you donate here. And with 7€/month it's not super expensive