Martin
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@henrywinter What should the penalty be in Scotland for a team supporters preventing completion of a match (as designated by referees whistle) & subsequently claiming the win & league title? Surely this is an obvious 0-3 to Hearts at very least.
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Anyone with any knowledge of English football history will know that it is ridiculous for Southampton’s chief executive, Phil Parsons, to claim that their expulsion from the Championship play-offs is a bigger punishment than the 30-point deduction imposed on Luton Town in 2008 which led to relegation and almost throttled the life out of the club. Absolutely no comparison and completely weakens Southampton’s attempted argument that being thrown out of the play-offs is “manifestly disproportionate to every previous sanction in the history of the English game”.
There is some good stuff in Parsons’ statement: accepting culpability for Spygate, apologising to those clubs they spied on and apologising to their fans “whose extraordinary loyalty and support this season deserved better from the club”. Well said. But… the rules changed since Leeds United’s “similar offence” in 2019, there is no right to the £200m (it’s not a fine), and to play the whataboutery game and make the comparison with the Hatters is, fittingly, mad. Southampton’s reputation is certainly damaged but at least their very existence is not at risk. #SaintsFC #LTFC
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If the #SaintsFc appeal isn’t successful - and it may be still - I would expect most fans after getting over the shock will be expecting the club to act strongly against any individual responsible because this is way to dark a day for it to be treated any other way - whoever it is
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@henrywinter Every team that sits a goal keeper down to disrupt play and coach team is cheating systematically with manager’s instruction..,,
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Southampton kicked out of Championship play-off final for spying. Correct decision, especially as it transpires they spied on three clubs in total. This is about more than a bloke standing behind a tree with an iPhone. It’s about how seriously the game should take cheating. EFL independent disciplinary commission have struck a blow for fair play, for integrity, for the need for respect between clubs, for coaches to have an expectation of privacy in training. 25% of goals scored in the Championship this season were from set-pieces. Clubs practised them. Understandably, coaches don’t want their plans revealed. EFL sending a strong message with this punishment.
Spygate 2 different from Spygate 1. Rules tightened and punishments introduced since Leeds United’s offence. Appeals, of course. It’s tough for Southampton fans to be denied the trip to Wembley and the chance of a return to the Premier League. It’s particularly tough that many have forked out for tickets, travel and accommodation. Their frustration and anger should be directed at their club. Southampton should recompense fans. It’s not the fans’ fault.
The stupidity in all this is that Southampton would probably have beaten Boro anyway. Better team, stronger bench. But this is so damning… “Southampton admitted breaches of Regulations requiring Clubs to act with the utmost good faith and prohibiting the observation of another Club’s training session within 72 hours of a scheduled match,” says EFL. “The admitted breaches concern fixtures against Oxford United in December 2025, Ipswich Town in April 2026 and Middlesbrough in May 2026.” So the punishment is proportionate. It should act as a deterrent. Honesty matters.
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@AdamBlackmore And when will club show some respect to supporters with a statement?
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The appeal from #SaintsFc likely to be heard tomorrow and when you have admitted to cheating 3 times the grounds for that appeal can only be that the punishment doesn’t fit the crime.
With what was at stake it may be the biggest financial punishment in recent sporting history - but there’ll be little sympathy outside the club
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@AlfieHouseEcho Isn’t it illegal, under data protection laws, to leak CCTV images to the press for publication🤔
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Look at all that professional recording equipment! 🤥
In all seriousness, this image changes nothing. Saints never denied the charge, and that’s been public for ages. Should be punished proportionately for breaching the EFL regulations.
#SaintsFC
SaintsExtra@SaintsExtra
🚨 Breaking: Photo of Southampton analyst hiding behind tree & using phone to spy on Middlesbrough #saintsfc @CraigHope_DM
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@henrywinter Did these allegations of “discriminatory behaviour” come just as the referee was reaching for a red card from his pocket for a player who was abusing him?
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Southampton have always been a club that did things the right way. Attractive football, long history, loyal and vocal support, important community department, good atmosphere at the Dell and St Mary’s, develop talent, even a great cat at the training ground. A sound club. A touch of class. So as they head to Wembley, and deservedly so as they were better than Boro on the night, perhaps those who run the club and run the football side consider how to restore the club’s reputation.
Because a club who many neutrals had a soft spot for risk becoming hard to like. Some Southampton fans will not worry about what others think of them. But they should. They are currently associated with cheating - Spygate - and for allegations of discriminatory language on the pitch (which have yet to be proven). That’s not what Southampton are about.
Their head coach, Tonda Eckert, rightly earned plenty of praise for his inspirational work this season but risks coming across as charmless at times. Interesting that Boro’s coach, Kim Hellberg, in his Sky Sports interview, congratulated Southampton players and supporters but not their coach.
Southampton have gained a shot at the Premier League - any Spygate sanctions permitting - but lost some respect. Saints’ board and Eckert now have to work out how to restore that good reputation. And pray that the independent disciplinary commission does not punish them severely and swiftly for Spygate. As many people want them to. #SaintsFC #SOUMID
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@SouthamptonFC @SouthamptonFC when will these away tickets be in the app?🤔
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@AdamBlackmore How can the ref say he didn’t see it? Gave initial free kick & subsequent yellow for “afters”, so saw both! Corrupt
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Big blow for #SaintsFc ahead of the FA Cup semi-final
Midfielder Flynn Downes has been handed a retrospective THREE MATCH BAN by the FA for his conduct following a challenge on. Liam Cullen at Swansea in the 23rd minute
He’ll be back for the playoffs ….
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@L1minus10 Referee saw initial foul too, as he gave the free kick. Absolute joke
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I have issues with this. The referee clearly has seen it because he booked him. We’ve clearly taken a view not to appeal so he is available for the playoffs. #saintsfc
Southampton FC@SouthamptonFC
Flynn Downes will be unavailable for our next three matches after being charged with violent conduct:
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Premier League fixtures for 2026/27 are released at 10am on Friday, June 19. The season kicks off from weekend of Saturday, August 22. The Championship schedule will be revealed at 12pm on Thursday, June 25, but their season kicks off a week earlier.
#SaintsFC
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@HACKETTREF Ref was desperate not to card Arsenal players, how many fouls did White commit without a yellow? Why did VAR not see this as an obvious red card offence?
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He should have walked. You cannot put your hands on a referee
EPL Bible@EPLBible
Martinelli just shoving the ref As you do 🫨 x.com/LFC_Liam7/stat…
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@AlfieHouseEcho Need the financial boost?
Maximum £30 aways tickets
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Why would any Saints fan want to win promotion back to the VAR-having, fun banning, big-six swagging, manager-sacking Premier League?
#SaintsFC
dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/o…
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@AlfieHouseEcho Absolutely- not coming home between WBA & Coventry
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Four consecutive away games starting at the end of this month with Sheffield Wednesday on Sat February 28, Fulham on Sun March 8, West Brom on Weds March 11, and Coventry on Sat March 14. One 3pm, two lunchtimes and an evening kick-off. Anyone doing all four?
#SaintsFC
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@SouthamptonFC Is ticket office open, ticket issue & can’t get hold on phone @SouthamptonFC
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