Marvelous! Or, the Death of Cinema Podcast

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Marvelous! Or, the Death of Cinema Podcast

Marvelous! Or, the Death of Cinema Podcast

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Autopsy of modern blockbusters by Stu, Nicole, and Cole | Art @Psychic_Driving @Why_I_Am_Art listen https://t.co/DXqW3VtJp7

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dani@AutismRonin·
We need more veteran screenwriters with experience in melodrama to write superhero scripts
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Anish Moonka@AnishA_Moonka·
Sure, your eyes aren’t tricking you. That clip looks better than the new trailer, and the reason has nothing to do with talent. The VFX supervisor on Amazing Spider-Man 2 in 2014? Jerome Chen. The VFX supervisor on Brand New Day? Also Jerome Chen. Same person. Completely different system around him. In 2014, Chen had 50 effects artists at Sony Imageworks, the largest VFX crew the studio had ever put on a single project. They handled about 1,000 of the film’s 1,600 VFX shots on a $255 million budget. The crew shot on real film (not digital), on location in actual New York City, scanned Times Square with 36,000 photographs of over 100 billboards, and built physical lighting rigs on set so the CGI would match the real world. Now look at how Marvel makes Spider-Man movies. No Way Home had 2,500 VFX shots spread across 12 studios and about 3,000 artists. The budget was $200 million, $55 million less than TASM2 despite having 56% more VFX shots. Digital Domain, one of the VFX vendors, was delivering final shots days before the December 17, 2021, release. They kept reworking shots into mid-January, after the movie was already in theaters. Zoom out, and the math gets worse. Marvel released 6 films between 2008 and 2012. From 2023 to 2025, they pushed out 7 films and 7 TV shows. The Hollywood union representing VFX workers reported that Marvel pays artists about 20% below industry average and staffs one person where other studios hire three. Artists described 64-hour weeks and breakdowns on the job. Then, in February 2025, Technicolor, the parent company of MPC (three-time Oscar winner for Life of Pi, The Jungle Book, and 1917), collapsed almost overnight. 4,500 jobs gone globally. The studio had been actively working on Disney and Paramount films when the lights went out. Brand New Day has four months before release, and trailers routinely show unfinished shots. But the gap between a 2014 Spider-Man and a 2026 Spider-Man has nothing to do with technology going backwards. The industry has been asked to do three times the work for less money per shot while its biggest studios are going under.
Best Movie Moments 🍿@BestMovieMom

Someone explain how this looks better than the new Spiderman trailer. This movie is 12 years old.

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jeff@comics_jeff·
A man will die but not his ideas
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Barto@bartonovopolis·
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Even the most skilled DPs can’t work to their fullest potential due to the circumstances through which Marvel industrializes the filmmaking process. Ex. Compare Autumn Durald Arkapaw’s work on BP:WF to Sinners.
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Miss Gender@girldrawsghosts·
It’s not that it’s overcast in the image; it’s the utter lack of contrast that is killing the visual spectacle of these movies. Everything becomes flat and washed out. That suit fucking *pops* in real life. If your spider-man movie is more drab than real life, you are fucking up
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Cal@wyattyhalpert·
I really try not to tweet about these movies anymore but lol
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Barto@bartonovopolis·
One of the most frustrating parts of the human experience is people's lack of curiosity. Refusing to engage with older art, going straight to modern remakes without any thought of even trying the original work, saying you don’t have to play an interactive game to be a fan etc.
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Those Good Old-Fashioned Values
Not happy about how the Oscars went down this year, then once again TGOFV has you covered as we present the obvious correct choice for each category this time joined by special guest Louise Weard (@weardjupiter)
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