Mobile App Bro

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Mobile App Bro

Mobile App Bro

@MobileAppBro

I'm dropping stuff on the TL that others like to keep secret or paywalled. AppStore Veteran. 60+ apps published over the years. Follow for the juice 🧃

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Mobile App Bro
Mobile App Bro@MobileAppBro·
Update. We have gone from ~$180 MRR to ~$25K MRR in 7 days. And thats about +$6K MRR since yesterday. Maybe we'll be at $26K/$27K by EOD. After today the cancellations will be coming in and it's going to get spicy. But before I move into the next phase of posting about this app, I want to clarify some things. You can be anonymous while still sharing your app revenue and stuff if you just keep it real and provide a lot of value on the backend. Believe it or not, posting your revenue screenshots, like I have, by itself is not necessarily a positive for a lot of people. It will inspire some but ultimately frustrate most, because they'll ask themselves what are they doing wrong that it doesn't seem to work the same way for them, then it turns into distrust. I honestly understand it. But people are starting to trust what I say about consumer apps because a lot of what I say rings true in very subtle ways that only someone who has been in the trenches for a very long time can articulate. Some people can't exactly point to anything exactly but they know what I'm saying is the truth, and that can be a hard thing to do being an anon here called "Mobile App Bro". I keep it real in a way I don't see a lot of people doing here because they are incentivised to sell the dream. Everybody in consumer apps knows they churn out at high levels, so why lie about that? Everybody knows that because of that, MRR is a useless metric that kinda means nothing, so why lie about that? Everybody in consumer apps knows that apps built on trends might eventually die out, so why lie about that? Everybody in consumer apps has once shipped a version of their app with a crazy bug that they didn't notice until too late, so why lie about that? I'm not trying to pretend I'm a mobile app god, I am simply a mobile app bro 😅 When I made this page, I committed to saying that the price i'll pay for anonymity is honesty as far as I can go without completely revealing everything about me. If my revenue chart goes up, i'll post it, and try to explain as much as I can how it did it, and the forces I believe are behind it. if my revenue chart goes down, i'll post it and try to explain as much as I can why it went down and the forces I believe are behind it That's my contract with you as anyone who's chosen to follow me.
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Update. Now ~$180 MRR to $19K MRR in 6 days. I think I'll definitely break $20K MRR today. So thats +$10K MRR in 2 days since the last post which is kinda crazy, basically doubled. What wild is how because of global reach, my app isn't particularly charting significantly anywhere, but getting purchases in lots of different countries. Really goes to show that there could be a lot of apps making money out there that aren't visible. Anyways as cool as this is, don't get too fooled. These are all mostly weekly plans and we are one day away from the renewals starting to hit. Also the little niche trend i'm riding probably will run out of steam at some point and I think i'm slowly starting to see it fade today. A great dose of reality approaches and hopefully should give you some perspective on these high growth MRR posts like this one that you see on X all the time. This MRR is not real, its weekly x 4. Still impressive in a way but it's likely any time you see a revenue chart in consumer that moves at this velocity, this is the likely case. And in consumer apps, a huge percentage of user's will cancel, regardless of what you do sometimes up to a point, its just kind of the baked in behaviour. You can see it sometimes in something like RevenueCat were a user will start a trial and immediately cancel it or purchase and immediately cancel the plan within a minute or two. On top of that for half the time so far, my app basically didn't work without realising 😅 so that might make it even more dramatic. So we are one day away, lets see how high it gets before the roller coaster ride begins 📉

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Hate to pick on one of his posts again, but one of the problems in my opinion with consumer apps' revenue velocity is that it makes people think they are geniuses. Kinda like picking the right coin in a bull market in crypto. It's intoxicating going from $0 - $500k / mo in a matter of months. I've been there. But the problem is people get some success in consumer apps and think they've cracked the da vinci code to business. Particularly when it comes to an ad arbitrage situation like this one. As much as I think YC are dinosaurs in this new age. They give very sage product advice, advice that as much as I hate to admit it, is standing the test of time. So my take on your take is that you have at present carved a very narrow path through the maze. Treat is as that, you've found a way to turn meta traffic into money, that's pretty much the bottom line. And it's a good thing because you are not VC funded which is why this path was the right choice. But believe it or not, the arbitrage you are experiencing right now will atrophy, the margins with start to crunch, you might even find yourself pulling back on ad spend. Increasingly your decreasing margins will mean your reliance on renewals and therefore retention will become more important and then what Garry is talking about here will become very relevant. And because of the volatile forces of consumer, this will be an absolute grind, you only need to read best in class Duolingo's S-1 filing to see. A LOT of big apps and app studios, that spend on ads, eventually run deficits like you wouldn't believe. But some of the biggest are willing to wait 2+ years to see payback on their ad spend. That seems to be what happens at scale, at least what I've observed in the industry. If I were you I would be crafting a plan to sell in the next 1 - 2 years before that happens and you still have a strong growth story. Otherwise, to hit your $100M goal (with ads specifically, influencer is a different ball game) you will likely need to raise, and I say this as someone who hates the whole funding ecosystem. You are not the first to do what you are currently doing, and you won't be the last. For example, I remember seeing this app Reflectly for the first time a few years ago, beautiful app, doing hundred of thousands a month in revenue back when it wasn't as common as it is now, running facebook ads profitably from what I gathered. Featured everywhere and critically acclaimed. They were pioneers of UGC/micro influencer marketing for apps imo, you can even find talks about it on youtube. But at some point, they decided to stop running ads I assume. Why could be anyones guess, I noticed they acquired other apps since so maybe shifted focus. But my main point is to just stay humble and avoid boxing yourself into wisdom primarily driven by a narrow path and discarding foundational startup wisdom as "useless" and "overrated". It's a mistake.

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Very confident and very wrong. So wrong in fact that I’ll take the opposite. If apps do in-fact “die” by end of 2027 I will delete my account. But we both know that isn’t happening, I don’t think people realise how both young and transformative apps as a category are, they don’t just go away like that. I met someone the other month who runs a food recipe site, that they started 2 years ago, that nets him ~$2 million a year. But I’m pretty sure ‘blogs’ are dead, yet I went down a rabbit hole and found hundreds more like him. You are totally lost in the sauce, everyone needs to log off x and go to a place with normal human beings. Most people who use AI, don’t even pay for AI as they currently are! And it’s been years of this, and unless subsidised, most people never even use the latest models. You might aswell take everything you have and short every public SaaS stock if your conviction is that strong.
kitze 🛠️ tinkerer.club@thekitze

@serglotz apps are dead most saas is dead every os will be reinvented from scratch and be fully dynamic and accommodating to users needs in realtime no one will have and use the same os if this is not true by the end of 2027 i will delete my account

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Mobile App Bro@MobileAppBro·
A key idea that is lost in all the discourse about AI and what it enables is the simple statistical idea of just basic gaussian a.k.a normal distribution. A lot of the takes rely basically on human behaviour completely shifting such that more people suddenly have the agency and willingness to do things. Most people will distribute around the average, meaning it will STILL be just a small percentage of people that will actually utilize AI in all the way people are theorising now. And no, not EVERYONE is going to want to build their own app. In fact I would wager that the same number of people who attempt to build their own app now will be roughly be the same ultimately beyond the novelty phase. Think about this, we can all cook, we all have our own cooking facilities in all our own homes. We have multiple way to make food faster than ever before, microwaves, air fryers, rice cookers e.t.c the list goes on. We've got complete meals that can be ready in a few minutes. Yet the restaurant industry continues to thrive, with new restaurants popping up everyday, they werent wiped off the face of the planet the moment we could cook our own food in our own homes with increasingly advanced technology. This is why I think the concept of "apps", essentially concentrated/focused utility, as far as im concerned will always exist, but perhaps in a different form.
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Another ‘apps are dead’ post. This is a psychosis, apps will definitely exist next year, in fact I would wager we are about to see all time highs in the industry revenue wise for the next couple of years. This type of thinking of why no one dared compete with myfitnesspal till some teenagers, with boundless optimism, built Cal AI that just did $5m last month. (!) I’m pretty sure most people thought building calorie tracking apps was a fools errand, and that segment of the market was defacto dead
kitze 🛠️ tinkerer.club@thekitze

stop charging subscriptions for your apps. apps won't exist next year anyway. do lifetime payments. which means "until january 2027" ✌️

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Mobile App Bro@MobileAppBro·
The sheer number of times I’ve seen this statement over the last decade is comical, of all the times in the world, apps are definitively the least dead they have ever been right now. And I’m usually more inclined to be pessimistic but in fact we’ve entered a new renaissance the likes we haven’t seen since the beginning of the AppStore itself. He might eventually be right like predicting the fall of the American empire, but probably for the next couple of years, you could get into apps and change your life forever in a relatively short period of time compared to almost any other industry, with extremely low overhead, and that to me is the furthest thing from dead.
Peter Steinberger 🦞@steipete

apps are dead

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Mobile App Bro@MobileAppBro·
Yes I do know, i've been making apps (the hard way) for a long time and I can confidently say the maintenance is easier that its ever been is my point. Its gotten to the point where I just pipe crash data, user bugs and feedback directly into an army of subagents that all compete to find the best solution to an issue. And then not only that with things like XcodeBuild MCP, can get the agent to the actually test the solutions directly in simulator. You can get agents to simulate behaviour or data set ups that cause issues. You can get agents to simulate what happens at scale. You can ask agent to embody different persona types and how they would use your app and what issues or confusion they could encounter. You can get agents to simulate things that would have been tedious and hard to do when debugging before. imo the maintenance is easier than the making of the app, the problems are narrowed and scoped with very clear objectives. Where as a lot can go wrong at the foundation. The energy you are talking about is now extremely leveraged to the highest degree in history. Updates that would take me 2+ weeks to get ready take me an afternoon, and I can be working on 5 of these at any one time across different apps in parallel, just firing off prompts one after another while the other works. You can then get one agent to get another agent from a different lab like codex, gemini, anthropic e.t.c to check and code review its code to find any gaps or vulnerabilities. Think about that kind of leverage. You just have to lean into it and realise you exist in a different paradigm now, discard your old ways of thinking, and think different.
farz@iamhtml

@MobileAppBro Making the app is not the bottle neck. It’s the maintenance. Since you already have an app. You must know the energy it takes to make it perform. It’s not a technical limitation.

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Everybody praising this post but I just couldn’t take it seriously when I saw “take the VC money” sounds like reverse justification, he took the VC money now he’s telling you to. This is probably the worst time in history to put that as top advice when you can do so much with so little, and B2C consumer is one of the only places where you can really do this at scale Also make one app not 10 only works in a world without increasingly smart agents, this is already ancient advice imo, would have agreed with him this time last year but the meta has moved. Lean into the leverage of intelligence. It’s like in the Industrial Revolution saying don’t make 10 steam engines, just make 1, sure, but we got factories now that in the right hands can make 10 of them with a level of consistency not possible in the history of the world. You just shoot off prompts, to get something shipped, then use user feedback as more prompts to improve the product. You can easily manage 10s of apps, if you disagree with me then you fundamentally don’t really believe AI agents have changed anything or are ever going to get smarter than they already are. It will take a little while before our minds adjust to the age of intelligence and what it really means to have intelligent agents at our disposal. Apps being worthless is also completely wrong imo, margins will crunch but like any commoditised item, money will still be made, especially in the niches. For as long as bread has been available and knowledge of how to make it commoditised, people are still making money from bread till this day. Many in different forms to its original forms, but money will always be made. This is his strategy disguised as advice but really he’s just laying out what he’s decided to do. But unless you want to go his path, take the VC money and have to grow at all costs, then fire up your agents and have a party. You don’t need anything ‘generational’ you need something ‘profitable’ to change your life.
Koby Conrad 🌻@kobyjconrad

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There are also way more apps that don't make money than those than do, this doesn't make any sense. This is probably the worst advice for 99% of all app creators. No different to VC vs lifestyle business debate. Sure if you can somehow manage to get the scale required to make freemium work then thats great, but the graveyard of freemium is vast, wide and much deeper than this post would suggest. Maybe if everyone was as good as you, but most are not. Making something freemium will seldom actually lead to real growth without luck, investment or painstaking work and attention to your K factor. But I can guarantee you that for more freemium apps, a hard paywall can change your economics almost literally overnight with just that one change. And when MOST apps DON'T make money, the inverse advice to this I feel like is the most useful. Hard paywall feels like the true contrarian advice imo.
Hunter J. Isaacson@hunterjisaacson

There are way more apps WITHOUT a hard paywall used by millions of people than anything with a hard paywall Don’t sacrifice growth for a few bucks

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Mobile App Bro@MobileAppBro·
@andrewxroas How's the other new app you launched doing? Don't think I've seen you post any new updates on it
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@jakemor Until I can simply prompt to create any of these screens/sequence, then i'm afraid this just looks like more work, we are in a different era now. WYSIWYG must be augmented with AI imo
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Next version of Superwall is going to blow your mind
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First time doing organic for my apps, it ain't bad but a completely different game than paid ads Still think the $10k/mo in 30 days is feasible we just have to figure out a few things because organic -> web funnel doesn't seem to convert that well like ads -> web funnel for some reason Will update soon
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I'm actually very much impressed by your response and how you've handled my criticism. Humility is a rare thing in the consumer app space. I half expected you to just block me & move on. So kudos to you for engaging earnestly, self reflecting and while still making your point 🫡
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totally hear you & this convo is a good reminder on the importance of zooming out and seeing how your actions impact people on the micro & macro level i’m not going to pretend my business (or anyone here) is selfless - i mean we LITERALLY are in the consumer app space. how much more hustler can it get? it’s okay to build things to make money. it’s okay to want to make money. it’s okay to understand human psychology & use it to your advantage for your product/marketing but i think it’s objectively not okay to scam people out of their money & promise them impossible results - and it can be a slippery slope for sure i’m no saint nor am i perfect but as someone w a platform on here i think it’s a good opportunity to call things out that don’t feel right regardless, a good wake up call and reminder to get in the practice of inspecting what you put out there. appreciate you saying something!
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Yes but somehow building a business off creating dozens of 'fake' accounts that pretend to be organic selling products to unsuspecting consumers is GOOD? Im not even hating, I literally do it myself all day long, but I wont pretend to have some kind of moral authority here. Mine are even worse because a lot of them are not even real humans, so at least you've got that! But for example your agency has marketed those astrology 'draw your soulmate' apps which is equally as dumb as dih in my opinion. The case study you guys posted even says: "People constantly worry about questions like - ‘Who will be my soulmate’, ‘How will I find them’, ‘what are the signs’. They look for answers on blogs, video essays, books, etc...." another case study said: "The "toxic partner you subconsciously crave" angle taps into uncomfortable self-awareness that viewers can't ignore. This psychological trigger promises hidden truths about behavior patterns, making people engage despite discomfort." So even there you understand that you are essentially preying on peoples insecurities yourself in how you came up with your strategies to market the apps. I was just scrolling through more of your case studies and you've marketed a feet finder app, ai companion apps... anyways I actually don't care. Just get off your high horse, quit the virtue signalling on here and let the free market decide.
Julia Pintar@juliapintar

just because you can make something that brings in cash doesn't mean you should we do have a responsibility to actually provide GOOD into the world - not just pray on people's insecurities you can literally build & distribute anything you want. make it count

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Fair enough that it isn't your case studies, but I couldn't tell the difference as just a casual observer, and putting it on your website is the same thing in a way because you are associating them with your brand either way. Plus without even looking into it that deep into your list I can assume one of your case studies 'Recent Follow' isn't exactly free from the same insecurity based marketing when the first example I see is the caption in the image below. Pretty sure this apps entire premise preys on insecurity, and even more so when these scenarios are not even real, they are just deliberately structured in a way to create the kind of scenario that evokes the emotion necessary for users to engage with it. In this case it will be just pure insecurity about who their partner has recently followed. The content doesn't even depict a real scenario, and I'm not sure if its necessarily making the world a better place At the end of the day, you like many of us exist in a gray area. Im not mad at it because relative to all the things you can do that are shady in the world, apps to me just rank so low, especially when such a small fraction of users pay anyway. Anyone who can remember the early days of the AppStore will know that this industry was essentially founded on the dumbest apps imaginable. So if someone wants to make something stupid and people want to pay, let the market do its thing.
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Julia Pintar@juliapintar·
i think you’re confusing our newsletters with our own case studies. you can find our case studies here - playkit.xyz/case-study (we haven’t done marketing for the apps you mentioned) i’m not trying to play the moral high ground game either, but i’ve been INCREDIBLY selective with which companies we bring on to market, pay our creators extremely well, and make a real effort to only make content about products i think are generally helpful to people it’s definitely a slippery slope and something i’ve thought of a lot! a good discourse to have
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Mobile App Bro@MobileAppBro·
@andrew48x I am also curious about your ad formats. Are you able to give any insight into them ofcourse without revealing your actual product, maybe reference ads in a completely different niche that are similar. Or perhaps a breakdown of formats that you’ve tested and what’s worked.
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@MobileAppBro English speaking markets only, the only thing that's localised is currency
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Andrew@andrewxroas·
I made $428,099 in December 2025 👨‍💻 Stealth AI app — $391.1K (+10%) 📷 Stealth digital product store — $37.1K (+8%) This was our slowest month in terms of growth but we still pulled off a nice 9% increase in revenue Ask me anything
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Please give me a rough valuation for this b2c app: - 0 -> 315k MRR in 6 months - web app (no apple tax) - one of the biggest apps in this niche
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