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Iagon ecosystem data has lived across explorers, dashboards, and internal tools. Now it lives in one place. Introducing Ecosystem Stats App — a unified view of Iagon activity on Cardano and across the ecosystem.

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@DualAcies €2,000 is literally the highest legally allowed salary in most of the EU. What are you talking about?

How ultra-rich Europeans act when after 25 years of successful career they reach a salary of €2,000 a month

Looking to connect with more @IagonOfficial supporters. It's time we come together more than ever. New account same Three! @NaVi_GaT0R @holgar @HolgerCardano24

This morning I've created a new dashboard on DaveGov, the goal is to showcase Cardanos largest DRep spenders, the DReps that have voted Yes on the most ADA withdrawals so far each year, this is configurable by year, so you can see this data also historically. You can see the leaderboard total YES votes in ADA, and the amount withdrawn from the treasury so far. I won't post the top spenders in the screenshot below, but feel free to have a browse, this is purely for awareness. Voting Yes for most proposals keeps you popular, but doesn't enforce fiscal responsibility or prove that you understand what you are voting for. This page auto-updates. Hope you like it, feedback completely welcome! governance.cardano-visualisation.com/spenders

@TheRealWeb3Kat @HiiiPowerRevo That sounded like a "yes, because we havent talked about it". Was that a correct interpretation?

@HiiiPowerRevo Conflict of interest is a systemic issue in governance that we have not addressed. It's a bigger issue than just "should midnight ambassadors vote on Cardano proposals". The discussion is needed, targeting individual DReps the way he did is not the way to go about it.

A short timeline. Just what happened, in order. Decide for yourselves. 1. A DRep (@NaVi_GaT0R) asked whether DReps with paid IO-linked roles should abstain on IO's treasury proposals. A normal conflict-of-interest question. 2. Charles did not answer the question. He went after Iagon - publicly, repeatedly, over days, to his 1M+ follower account, with IO employees and IO-aligned accounts amplifying. He said Navjit had "lost the plot," called the concern "objectively wrong," and publicly stated Iagon's leadership should be replaced or the project could collapse. 3. IAG fell ~32% in 24h. Holders - who are also ADA holders - lost real money. 4. As IAG was crashing, the price-crash chart was posted at Charles. He replied with a video clip of Bane: "Your punishment must be more severe... not of your body... of your soul." 5. Charles began describing the conflict-of-interest question as an "attack on his ambassadors." It was not. No ambassador was attacked. A DRep asked, in public, whether DReps with paid IO ties should abstain on IO's proposals - a standard governance question. Reframing a question as an "attack" is what made everything that followed look justified. 6. On that false premise, Charles hosted an X Space and said, about the token holders of a project in his own ecosystem: "I don't give a shit about your token holders... I don't give a shit about your bag holders... If you attack my ambassadors, I will burn you to the ground." He also said the way out was to "apologize" and "back the fuck off." 7. When a community member said I was "obsessed," Charles replied that I have "CDS," that it is "incurable," and that people should "let him go." CDS - Cognitive Dysfunction Syndrome - is a veterinary diagnosis: age-related dementia in dogs and cats. So a sitting DRep raising sourced concerns was described in the language a vet uses for a deteriorating animal. 8. Charles then posted a unity video: the only thing that can destroy Cardano is internal fighting. 9. When some Japanese DReps voted against IO's research proposal, Charles posted directly to the Japanese community: if the proposal did not pass, "Cardano will lose its scientists" and "our lab will be forced to close." He then asked the community to "delegate to dReps who support Cardano's research agenda" - in other words, to move voting power away from DReps who voted the wrong way. When that pressure did not deliver the result, the threat hardened: approve the proposal, or be responsible for ending Cardano's research entirely. Only after this also failed to work did the tone suddenly soften. 10. As hundreds of holders engaged with these concerns, Charles shifted tone - "#strongertogether," inviting conversation. 11. I took that at face value. Then I did something he never did. After he attacked Iagon, after the "burn you to the ground," after his words helped wipe ~32% off a token held by thousands - I was the one who extended a hand. I publicly offered him a private, no-recording, one-on-one call. Man to man. Not for me - for the ecosystem. The person who was attacked took the first step toward peace. 12. His public answer to that olive branch was the pattern again, in one post. He said: "Tell him to go to hell." He demanded I issue "a public apology FOR EVERYTHING he said" before he would even speak. He said: "You don't treat me like a human toilet." And then, in the last three lines: "He's trash. Everyone can see it now. We move on." Read that ending again. I offered him a private, calm conversation - and his response was to call me "trash" and tell the audience that this proves something about me. He attacked, and in the same breath framed the attack as evidence against the person he attacked. That is the reversal in its purest form: be the aggressor, then announce that the aggression exposes the victim. That is the sequence. I offered a calm, private conversation - and that was the response to it. One more thing worth seeing plainly. Not days apart. The same afternoon - roughly two hours between these two posts. First, in public, to the ecosystem: "Cardano is alive. The community is engaged... You are not passive holders. You are owners." "Let me show up the way I should." "I am inviting all of you to sit down and have a real conversation." "I am 100% focused on Cardano and Midnight. #strongertogether" Roughly two hours later, to me, after I publicly offered exactly that - a private, calm, one-on-one conversation: "Tell him to go to hell." "Have him issue a public apology FOR EVERYTHING he said." "You don't treat me like a human toilet." "He's trash. Everyone can see it now." That is the gap. "Stronger together" for the audience. Two hours later, "go to hell" and "he's trash" for the person who took him up on it. A real invitation to talk does not come with a demand to grovel first - and it does not curdle into "go to hell" within the same afternoon. Look at the whole shape of this. He attacked. He did not answer the question - he went after the people who asked it. When the damage was done and holders were losing money, he posted about punishment and souls. He said in public he would burn people to the ground. He pressured an entire national community to vote his way or be blamed for the end of Cardano's research. And then, step by step, he became the victim. The question became an "attack." The critics became aggressors. The man with 1M followers and the treasury proposals became the wronged party defending the vulnerable. When I - the one who was attacked - offered peace, he framed himself as the one owed an apology, and called me "trash" for asking. That reversal has a name: DARVO. Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender. It is not a diagnosis. It is a pattern, and the record above is the pattern, step by step, in his own words. So the practical question stands: Is this conduct - the attacks, the Bane clip aimed at people losing money, the "burn you to the ground," the pressure on the Japanese community, the false "victim" framing, the rejection of a good-faith olive branch - the conduct of someone who should be trusted with hundreds of millions of ADA from the community treasury? Cardano does not have a "leader." It has a community, a treasury, and contractors who ask that community for funding. IO is one of those contractors - currently asking for hundreds of millions of ADA, with a track record of missed timelines. A contractor asking the community for money does not get to attack the members of that community for doing the exact thing the governance system was built for: participating, voting, and asking questions. Respect for ADA holders is not optional for someone requesting their treasury. It is the job. Screenshots of every quote above are attached. Read them in full, and decide for yourselves.👇👇👇

@phil_uplc What's your point @phil_uplc other than spreading FUD?

Yep it’s all Charles’ fault the token that you have been dumping month after month on your retail holders has tanked in value.

@IOHK_Charles Iagon is not against you. We are builders in the same ecosystem. We are neither agressors nor haters, we are meerly, as you, burning flames for the spirit of Cardano. Join tonight’s Iagon Community AMA, lets talk things through openly and constructively.

@HolgerCardano24 @NaVi_GaT0R @IOHK_Charles I'm not saying it cause he did something wrong, but with all due respect, I admire you most when i see what you are able to create, than how you conduct yourself on X. Also, as the CEO of @IagonOfficial i fond it most relevant and most apropriate that @NaVi_GaT0R handles this.

Well, @NaVi_GaT0R did nothing wrong. In a normal world the attacker should be the one who makes the first step, and not the other way around. And even then I said myself, come one,... he will never do it, so I approach him for the sake of the ecosystem. But Charles sees someone offering him a hand, because he is mentally unable to apologise, as a weakness. And his natural instinct is then to double down on DARVO.

This is the contradiction people keep ignoring. Minutes before this, Charles posted about unity, governance, ownership, coordinationand being #strongertogether Prior to this @HolgerCardano24 offered a private 1-on-1 to speak like adults, the response was "Tell him to go to hell." "He's trash." The community should ask whether #stronger together is a principle or just a slogan when it only applies to people who agree

I've improved DaveGov so you can now dig much deeper into Cardano governance and DRep voting behaviour. You can now see things like how much ADA your DRep has voted to spend historically, how much they have currently committed towards treasury withdrawals, how many proposals they have voted on, how many rationales they have provided, and broader voting behaviour across governance actions. I've also added better analytics around treasury actions including enacted, pending, withdrawn and approved proposals, along with participation rates and pending yes vote inclusion tracking against treasury spend. This morning I focused heavily on performance improvements as well. DRep search is now significantly faster, governance analytics are more responsive, and caching improvements mean the platform scales and feels better with every additional user. There's also now historical comparison functionality, so you can compare how DReps voted during 2025 against current governance behaviour. The goal is simple. Make Cardano governance more transparent, measurable and easier to understand at scale. If you have any ideas, let me know and i'll try get them added, enjoy :) governance.cardano-visualisation.com

I hope @IOHK_Charles reads and understands what is being said here. This is the sentiment that is increasingly common deep in the Cardano community. 🥺 x.com/i/status/20581…

To be honest and frank, I thought you would be secretly happy if at least a few of the IO proposals didn't get funding. Because it would mean the governance system you had helped design and bring to fruition was actually working and you really were "Charles the Community Member" versus the king/CEO of Cardano. Project Catalyst predicted precisely this friction for the past 5-6 years. All of us who had to go and compete for scarce resources have, in our turn, been called all sorts of names from scammer to grifter to receiving threats of violence and death. Most of us truly believe the things we were proposing would meaningfully improve the Cardano ecosystem. Most of us were wrong most of the time. Probably all of us have had to make the hard decision to let contractors and employees go when we could no longer afford them. We've all also invested heavily of our time, energy, and personal savings because we believe in the mission; even if the numbers are orders of magnitude different, the relative scale of impact remains. A lot of people are in an austerity mindset right now because many of us have been already stretched thin and doing our best to make it work and clearly every year will remain a competition for a finite resource. But, we're all still here. That can't mean nothing. We never started down this path thinking it would be easy. Also, I apologize for responding in such a way to this clip taken out of context. I have great respect for you and the things you've built here and elsewhere. I hope you and IO remain as valued contributors to the Cardano ecosystem for many years to come. Not every no vote is a "No to Charles" or "No to IOG", it could very well be just a not right now. I'll promise to try and do better with my relatively small platform. But I won't stop asking critical questions when I think they're warranted, I'll just try to be less adversarial in my tone and open to hear both sides of the argument.

@IOHK_Charles @invisionthis @AnalysisAn123 Hang in there bro

@invisionthis @AnalysisAn123 Been one of the worst weeks of my life

@IOHK_Charles cowboystatedaily.com/2026/05/22/gil… Heard this was closing down my friend. Any way I can touch base with you and learn why it's closing down, look under the hood with you? Maybe I can opine and help make this work, either in this or a future iteration. Trying to make sister Mayo Clinic is a very noble cause. I'd love to help and I'd love to touch base. I'm on the Teton side my man.

The good news is, regardless of the arm-twisting & begging, IOG literally has to deliver across the board over the span of this funding or else the next ask for the remaining 90% of the treasury has zero chance of being coerced It's put up or shut up time 🤝

Charles, when every critic becomes a villain, the pattern is not everyone else. The pattern is you. You just listed Optim, Iagon, Cardano Whale, Dave, Rick, Adam and others like this is an "inventory." It is not an inventory. It is a list of people in this ecosystem who have questioned you, disagreed with you, did something you didn't like, challenged IOG, challenged a narrative or refused to act like Cardano governance exists only to ratify what you want. And instead of reflecting on why so many serious people keep ending up on the other side of your megaphone, you reach for the same playbook every time - Dismiss the substance. - Attack the person. - Recast yourself as the victim. - Then tell everyone else to "grow up." So let's take the Iagon part of your "inventory," since you brought us into it. You say Iagon "started bullying and harassing" Midnight ambassadors. That is a convenient story, but it is not what happened. I as a dRep asked a governance question, NOT Iagon. A dRep asked whether people with roles connected to Midnight or IOG linked interests, who also held meaningful dRep voting power, should abstain on IOG related treasury proposals. That is governance. That is literally what dReps are supposed to do - ask hard questions, examine conflicts, protect treasury neutrality and represent the $ADA holders who delegated voting power to them. If a person is participating in governance with delegated $ADA while also holding a role connected to a project or organization affected by that vote, asking about conflicts is not an attack. It is accountability. And let's be very clear - ambassadors are not above scrutiny. dReps are not above scrutiny. Iagon is not above scrutiny. IOG is not above scrutiny. Midnight is not above scrutiny. You are not above scrutiny. This is supposed to be decentralized governance, not a court where certain people get protected status because they are useful to Charles Hoskinson. The moment a person participates in public governance with public voting power, the public is allowed to ask public questions. You did not answer the conflict question. You reframed it as "bullying" - ironically this is exactly what you have been doing in this ecosystem. Then you escalated it into an attack on Iagon, my leadership and the holders. You used your platform to tell the market you had "no more time" for the project unless leadership changed. You warned that Iagon could fail and destroy value for token holders. You called into question the ethics and integrity my leadership. You accused us of acting out of spite rather than engaging with the actual governance concern. And then, after the damage was done, you turned around and said people are "playing the victim." That is not leadership. That is deflection. You cannot threaten a Cardano native project, watch real holders suffer, then accuse the people objecting to the threat of being childish. You cannot say you care about token holders while dismissing "your token holders" when those holders happen to be in a project that challenged you. There are no "Iagon holders" over there and "Cardano holders" over here. $IAG holders are $ADA holders. They are stake pool operators. They are voters. They are dReps. They are builders. They are community members. They are families. They are the same ecosystem you claim to defend. When you attack a Cardano project, you are not attacking some foreign body. You are attacking people inside Cardano. That is the part you keep avoiding. You talk about ambassadors being bullied. Fine. I will say this clearly - I do not condone harassment of any ambassador, volunteer, dRep, builder, SPO or community member. Anyone who crosses into personal abuse should stop. But do not use "protecting ambassadors" as a shield to make governance questions untouchable. Do not use volunteers as human armor around treasury proposals. Do not say "decentralized governance" when the rule is really - vote,but do not question my side - ask question but not about my people - participate but only if you accept the consequences of my platform turning on you. That is not governance. That is intimidation. And since we are talking about red lines, where were those red lines when Iagon was being called a scam? Where were those red lines when IOG aligned voices and consultants were smearing Iagon publicly? Where were those red lines when defamatory claims, racial slurs and personal attacks were being thrown at builders who have spent years building on Cardano? Where was the concern for "bullying" then? The standard cannot be: When your side attacks, it is criticism. When others ask questions, it is harassment. When you escalate, it is leadership. When people respond, they are victims. When you use a 1M+ follower account, it is accountability. When a dRep asks about conflicts, it is a mob. That double standard is exactly why people are speaking up. You say people "lash out, get hit hard and then play the victim." No. People ask legitimate questions. You hit hard. Then you call their injuries proof that they were wrong to ask. That is the pattern. A dRep raises a conflict of interest concern. You call it bullying. A project CEO disagrees with IOG proposals. You call it spite. A community member challenges your narrative. You diagnose them, mock them, block them or write them off. Then, when people notice the pattern, you call them children. Charles, the lack of self-reflection here is breathtaking. At some point, when the same story keeps happening with different people, different projects, different dReps, different critics,and different cycles, maybe the common denominator is not that everyone else is irrational. Maybe the common denominator is that you treat disagreement as disloyalty. Maybe the common denominator is that you confuse criticism with attack. Maybe the common denominator is that you cannot separate Cardano from yourself. That is dangerous in a decentralized ecosystem. Because Cardano does not belong to you. It does not belong to IOG. It does not belong to Iagon. It does not belong to Midnight. It does not belong to any ambassador group, any DRep bloc, any founder, any company or any whale. It belongs to the $ADA holders and the people building, maintaining, securing, voting, delegating, questioning and participating in it. And if those people cannot ask whether conflicts exist without being threatened, mocked, financially harmed or publicly targeted, then governance is not free. You said "grow up kids." Here is the adult version: Answer the question. Should dReps with roles, incentives, payments, affiliations or obligations connected to an organization seeking treasury funds disclose those overlaps and consider abstaining? Yes or no? That was the issue. Not your ego. Not my tone. Not Iagon’s existence. Not whether Midnight ambassadors are good people. Not whether Charles feels attacked. Not whether people should be afraid to ask next time. The question was about conflict, disclosure and treasury integrity. If there is no conflict, explain why. If there is a conflict, disclose it. If abstention is not necessary, make the case. If the Constitution already provides the standard, apply it equally. But do not turn a governance question into a loyalty test. Do not demand apologies for asking what every serious governance system must be willing to ask. Do not pretend you are defending decentralization while using centralized influence to punish dissent. And do not tell people to "grow up" while threatening to burn projects down. The Cardano community should be able to disagree without fear. dReps should be able to vote NO without being branded enemies. Builders should be able to compete without being targeted. Token holders should not become collateral damage in personality conflicts. Ambassadors should be respected, yes. But they should not be used to make legitimate governance scrutiny off limits. So yes, let's take inventory. Who asked a governance question? Who answered with escalation? Who raised a possible conflict? Who turned it into a campaign against a project? Who claims to care about token holders? Who publicly attacked leadership of a project whose holders are also Cardano community members? Who says others play the victim? Who keeps casting himself as the victim whenever accountability arrives? That is the pattern people are seeing. And no amount of "grow up kids" changes it. Iagon will continue building. I will continue voting my conscience as a dRep. I will continue asking questions when treasury neutrality, conflicts of interest and governance integrity are at stake. If I am wrong, answer with facts. If you disagree, make the argument. But threats, mockery, blocks and public intimidation are not arguments. They are the behavior of someone who wants decentralized governance only until it decentralizes power away from him. Cardano deserves better than that.

Nice block Charles. For somebody that apparently cares, I'm out here voting every hour of my spare time. Whilst you are on here trashing people that care about Cardano, and then on top of that throwing tantrums because non transparent proposals are not funded. Cardano will continue, I will not be bullied out of Cardano, but instead I will be motivated further to put more work into awareness around the things that worry you. Have a great evening. :)

@NaVi_GaT0R @IOGroup @ItsDave_ADA @MinswapIntern @Yabba900 @StakeWithPride It's a good and realistic alternative, but we have to remember that @IOGroup does more than just build, they also do scientific research and do rigorous testing before implementing. I'm not sure if this model would stimulate a similar discipline from proposers, what do you think?

@MrBlackAwakens @IOGroup @ItsDave_ADA @MinswapIntern @Yabba900 @StakeWithPride I mentioned a solution here x.com/NaVi_GaT0R/sta…

I understand the appeal to not let treasury funds go to waste or go to 0 for that matter. But I urge you to consider the following question: If not @IOGroup to build Cardano, then who? $ADA @ItsDave_ADA @MinswapIntern @NaVi_GaT0R @Yabba900 @StakeWithPride