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Naayil
Naayil@NAAAYIL·
well how was it possible in past seasons to consistently get full Challenger or Mostly GM lobbies during peak times with the same 300 + 700 player slots? I vividly remeber 6-10 minute queues during the day into full Challenger/Grandmaster if it was like 5 am in the morning it would go up to 30-60 min, but tbf you were/are an idiot anyways if you played high elo at that time and then i have no problem being matched with toddlers Obviously i dont expect to get matched into full LCK rosters at 4 am on a tuesday but these games were played afternoon early evening, peak hours and the queues were all sub 3 minutes, some being 0:00 pops and I get matched with people who‘s accounts have an all time peak of 1/3 or 1/4 of my current rank? the game didn‘t even try to look for anyone more suitable or the game is so dead in high elo that it knew it wouldnt find anyone suitable for the next 15-30 minutes? Which makes not a lot of sense because by that time, surely another ongoing high elo lobby would have probably ended which adds players to the queue? and if it is dead in high elo, why not create incentives? Make decay days a maximum of 7 days instead of 14 hell idgaf if you make it daily you can‘t be a functional human being anyways if you are Challenger in a major region so why not make it something prestigious again? I also disagree with the notion that players have heavily improved in high elo i agree that the skill floor has clearly improved, (plat player in 2026 is clearly better than a plat in 2019) but masters actually just keeps getting worse and worse, because you kept pushing these guys higher and higher D1 used to be the elo ridiculed by chall players for being really bad then it was low master 200-300LP now it is just master as a whole until like 1k LP challenger in 2026 (in my eyes) is not much better than challenger in S10, S11 not to the point where I think it‘s reasonable to drop post WW1 germany levels of inflation onto the ladder but i am just a player in the end so its whatever i guess
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Matt Leung-Harrison@RiotPhroxzon·
Agree the season has had challenges. (it was hard to read your doc on my phone so apologies if I misinterpreted some stuff) There are 300 challenger players and 700 grandmaster players and not all of them are playing every day at the same time. Y'all wanted fast queue times and all challengers in your game. It's just not possible. I think your expectations are unrealistic 😢 We reduced the queue times because it's better than waiting forever to still get a bad game. Either we have faster queue times and the players in the games are wider or you wait forever and maybe we get challengers but probably not. Even if there's a wide variety of skills overall, we still try our best to make the match overall balanced I do agree that with the widening of the gaps, we could take a look at duo eligibility. Those rules could get super confusing within our rank construct though
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Naayil@NAAAYIL·
the ladder doesn‘t need a reset we need a new matchmaking System that is built from the ground up Riot doesn‘t know wtf they are doing this whole game is built on 3rd order consequence bugs if riot resets the ladder but add a new nasus skin the entire game collapses anyways
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Naayil@NAAAYIL·
I cant wait to be on voice chat talking about some: "SHUT UP YOU ARE HARDSTUCK 2600 LP MASTA, STOP TALKING TO ME"
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Sola@LoLSola·
It feels like the skill difference between let's say top 500 and top 5000 got just too big over the years to match them together in games, yet it's the only way to not make Challenger queues insanely long, so being Challenger is mostly about stomping worse players and farming lp. Paired with Offrole basically every game and people being much more proficient in their 1. Than 2. Role, is there even a good way to "fix" matchmaking or is it a fallacy
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Naayil@NAAAYIL·
@RiotPhroxzon this google doc looks like shit on phone, sorry about that i dont know how to make these documents, on my desktop it looked fine
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Naayil@NAAAYIL·
I mean just follow your own tweet history regarding high elo and matchmaking in general ? you guys have been apologizing and investigating new problems every 1-2 weeks and when it comes to matchmaking, i made this cute little google doc for you to watch where I got 4 lobbies that I played literally today and where I was totally confused as to how some players ended up with me together in the same game docs.google.com/document/d/1zY… please tell me why i am full of shit, i would love to be the dumbass in this situation
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Naayil@NAAAYIL·
"We expect most regions to reach peak LP’s of around 3000 and in some of the top end cases, close to 4000" HAHAHAHAHA
Matt Leung-Harrison@RiotPhroxzon

Apex LP Gains Hey everyone, We’ve had a lot of attempted changes to resolve some of the root issues with the Apex experience this year. Some have worked OK and others haven’t worked as well. We wanted to shine a light on changes that are going out (hopefully) today and how we’re going to approach it for the near term and wanted to apologize for the experience that people have been running into so far. Does every region have negative LP gains? - Less than 5 of our 16 regions are having negative LP gains in Apex right now, and they’re to varying extents - Some of those are experiencing it consistently and others, just a little bit, and most, none at all Is Aegis of Valor causing this? - We don’t see any long term impacts on LP gains caused by Aegis - Especially given that the majority of regions are functioning completely fine What’s going on then? - Masters being more achievable this Season & the best players getting stronger as the years go on is expanding the gap between the bottom of Master and the top of Challenger. - The addition of Challenger duos made it more challenging to balance some of these games - While we took pre-emptive mitigations to reduce the impact of things like Rank 1 & 2 duoing together, they weren’t powerful enough and resulted in the best players catapulting further ahead - The rollout of our improved Matchmaking and better balance to duos (this is now Live in every region); does a better job of balancing duos and balancing autofills to make Apex matches more balanced in over 90% of cases, but there is still work to be done when the very best players are duoing together - In the Live Ranked system, the max LP attainable has a soft cap to prevent LP gains from getting too high, which combined with the above issues has led to a less than ideal apex ladder experience Are you going to reset the ladder? - There are some set of people who are really vocal about resetting the ladder; we hear the concerns and are taking them seriously - At the same time, there are a lot of players who will find it very frustrating for all their progress to be reset and while some players will be happy we reset it, others will not, so we’re continuing to evaluate The changes we’re making - To reiterate, in the Live Ranked system, the max LP attainable has a soft cap to prevent LP gains from getting too high - The closer you get to the top of the ladder, you need a higher and higher winrate to climb. - ie. As a player gets closer and closer to the cap, their gains will approach +10/-30 - We’re going to remove this cap, which will unbound LP on the top end and result in the very best players being able to play and climb to pretty high LP values (+30/-10LP until they start to reach where they should be) - It will also make LP gains for the entire Apex ladder more stable, but LP cutoffs for Grandmaster and Challenger will also increase when most players no longer have negative LP gains - We expect most regions to reach peak LP’s of around 3000 and in some of the top end cases, close to 4000 - Grandmaster and Challenger are meant to be very difficult to achieve and it’s intended to be challenging to get there (in the same way that an Emerald player should look at Diamond and feel like it’s going to be difficult to achieve) - At the same time, we’ve heard your feedback that hitting these ranks feels too daunting and grindy (though there is an expectation that the peak ranks in a game are going to require more dedication to keep, we need to strike a good sweet spot here) The future - Us making climbing at apex less daunting caused us to add Grandmaster several years ago and we’re nearing some of those feels now; the skill gaps in Apex are getting too big - In some regions also, the number of Grandmaster/Challenger slots being too low for how big their region is is also contributing to the cutoffs being very high (EUW being a notable example) -> curious on thoughts on increasing this - We might also reconsider the top end of how much LP you can gain per win, but need to be considerate of how much this incentivizes smurfing - Changes to systems like these are a natural part of League being a long-lived game and having growing player skills over time Thank you for being patient with us as we fix all the things and we’ll continue to work to make the top of ladder climbing experience the best it can be.

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Naayil@NAAAYIL·
@Phantasm_EUW until they just copy paste the current ladder system into the new client
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Phantasm@Phantasm_EUW·
@NAAAYIL League of Legends 2 will be better.
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Phantasm@Phantasm_EUW·
We are already in the THIRD month of season 16 and LP gains are still either perma insanely low, or randomly insanely high. Despite these extremes the challenger cutoff just keeps rising + Rank 1 is nearing 2.5kLP on EUW (ridiculous in 3 months) Reset the ladder I beg
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Naayil@NAAAYIL·
@Phantasm_EUW I think it‘s a mix of 1 and 2 where its more leaning towards 1 however option 3 makes me feel the best since it helps me let go of the game emotionally
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Naayil@NAAAYIL·
@Phantasm_EUW very optimistic, I am rooting for you i think there‘s only 3 Options possible atp 1: they literally can not fix this because of spaghetti code that nobody understands 2: they can not fix it because of incompetence 3: they do this on purpose but act oblivious for EOMM reasons
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Naayil@NAAAYIL·
@ckaldib i cant even say shit back to that and honestly, even if everything you said is not true its probably still better to believe that it is, rather than deal with the reality of the games condition
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aladib@ckaldib·
@NAAAYIL With all do respect to you sir u are missing the point ! they are applying EOMM and making auto filled players feel good about it using Aegis of Valor and you can clearly seeing them use redistribution system based on churn index MM is based on attention spawn not fairness !
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Naayil@NAAAYIL·
@xSakuraBladesx I‘m sorry for this experience, mind sending me the game ID? I could help as much as Riot can
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SakuraBlade@xSakuraBladesx·
@NAAAYIL I quit this dogshit season within the first month pretty much, i have never had such a terrible ranked experience in any game ever
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Naayil@NAAAYIL·
@drewlevin it is a bit of a cruel analogy but its more about the expectation of failure that i am talking about
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Naayil@NAAAYIL·
@drewlevin the analogy is more about comparing Riots repeated inability to fix a known game issue for soon to be 3 months with the same repeated inability of an alcoholic sobering up while aware and the players (the kids) anticipating failure in proposed solutions based on their experience
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Naayil@NAAAYIL·
my dad is not an alcoholic but surely this is what it feels like to have an alcoholic dad who comes home every night shitfaced and every morning before you go to school he tells you he's gonna sober up
Drew Levin is on vacation (see pinned post)@drewlevin

not going to reply to every single tweet individually, but yes I see y’all reaching out on the ranked gains front, and no this is not the intended experience. will discuss with the matchmaking team tomorrow. apologies for the rough weekend.

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ollip@ollipEUW·
@NAAAYIL He haven’t played many games he plays a role that doesn’t get many agies. He didn’t spam games pre lp nerf (first month of season). So his lp is not inflated
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