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@CaidenC64976991 I am F Tier for the France Family

ranking nascar twitter users on a tier list (reply to be ranked)

@bobpockrass @NASCARONFOX Jim France was a fantastic CEO of this sport, and his legacy will remain for generations. Thank you for all you have done Jim France.

From earlier: NASCAR Chairman Jim France To Step Down as CEO, Remain Chairman, Sources Say @NASCARONFOX foxsports.com/stories/nascar…

@CouchRacerShop I'm going to miss Jim France

Thoughts?

@Jordan_Bianchi Wow, what a change. I for one will be very sad to see the titan of NASCAR, Jim France go. The sport is in good hands with Steve O'Donnell at the helm however.

NEWS: NASCAR CEO and chairman Jim France is relinquishing his role as CEO and being replaced by current NASCAR president Steve O’Donnell, according to multiple industry sources. NASCAR is also promoting Ben Kennedy to COO. nytimes.com/athletic/72260…

Thank you for all you have done for this sport Mr. Jim France. You will go down as one of the greatest leaders NASCAR has ever seen. Nevertheless, the future is bright with Steve O'Donnell at the helm. #NASCAR

Incredible finish at @EchoParkSpdwy! That reconfiguration was an excellent idea made possible by Steve Phelps and Steve O'Donnell! All the drivers who complained about it originally, wya?

@BenKennedy33 I agree with you too Ben Kennedy. This is a fantastic compromise that brings this sport into the future! Thank you for your amazing leadership.

There were many stakeholders in these conversations, all with different preferences. The same is true across our fans. Some favored a 36-race champ, while others asked for little to no change. Many specifically mentioned the Chase. I believe the format is a good compromise.

@BenKennedy33 I'm applying! I love NASCAR!

Two new positions have been posted to join our Venues & Racing Innovation team where they will begin working directly with me. One will be overseeing facility operations for our national venues, while the other will be focused on driving new business. Links are in the thread.

@jeff_gluck NASCAR's executive leadership is perfect and needs no modifications

This trial showed us it’s time for a change in NASCAR. That change needs to start at the top. nytimes.com/athletic/68849…

@CouchRacerShop Bass Pro Shops needs to tread carefully. They have an incredible opportunity for promotion via NASCAR. Attacking the great Steve Phelps is very dangerous to their business prospects.

Bass Pro Shops sponsors everything in and around this sport - Teams, drivers, tracks, NASCAR….. Unprecedented times we are seeing and linked in profiles being updated most likely. Wow.

@DerrikeG1990 @CouchRacerShop They are greedy and instead of cutting their own costs down, they want NASCAR to increase the payouts.

@CouchRacerShop So everybody following the trial wants to know......why did teams refuse a cost cap?

@JennaFryer The fans stand firm on our stance to back Jim France no matter what

Updated after court #NASCAR chairman Jim France stands firm on charter stance, citing parents' advice apnews.com/article/nascar…

@bobpockrass The teams should cut costs. It's not up to NASCAR to subsidize their reckless spending

The debate in the NASCAR CFO testimony is over where $ could come from to pay more for teams. NASCAR says no way could they pay teams $720M a year. FRM/23XI said they could adjust. Cup teams got combined $431M in 2025.

NASCAR Chief Financial Officer Greg Motto was on stand for 1 hr, 45 min. Mostly talk on 400M in 2021-24 distributions to France family designed to primarily go to taxes - part of contract France family has with NASCAR as S Corporation. Not legal requirement but set up that way.

@MattWeaverRA Absolutely agree with John Probst. If teams want to save money, they should reduce costs.

John Probst's examination and cross-examination preceded the lunch break. Probst says NASCAR's total investment into the NextGen is $14 million. He points out that Cup Series teams have spent $0 on development cost. In response to Bob Jenkins saying 'we have to buy' seven center-sections, Probst says no team has to buy seven but the maximum is seven. His own council showed the jury an exhibit email in which 15 teams holding 30 charters endorsed the NextGen before its development began. Probst: 'I thought that was a pretty compelling endorsement by the team owner council' Probst testifies that NASCAR knows how often teams buy parts from the approved vendors and they ask for that data once or twice a year. They ask for this data because they want to turn around and show teams that buying more parts doesn't correlate to wins. He cited that Penske routinely wins the most races on the fewest re-purchasing of single source supplied parts. 23XI Racing has spent the most over the past two years. The point Probst is making, as NASCAR has made the past week in a half, is that it believes there is a spending problem more than a charter revenue problem. Probst testified that NASCAR does not make money off single source parts. He testified that single sourcing is cheaper than teams choosing from multiple vendors because the (Request for Proposal) process results in the lowest price 'whereas before,' the vendors would compete and a clear cut best part would emerge from competition, and that best part would cost more. Probst opinions on cost increases: 'I think from a car perception, we get accused of rule changes, but over the last four years, we have had minimal changes and competition drives cost... I would say that it is up to the teams to decide if they need their own jets. Our last place team has their own regional jet. If you want to see a race, watch the race out of the airport after the race, and how clogged the airspace gets above the track. If the teams want to own their own regional jets, fancy war rooms and state of the art shops, that is on them." When asked about the $20m to run a car on average, Probst says 'sounds high.' Back to costs, Probst said when he was at Red Bull 'and I'm going to get a reactive fine for this, we would take a Cup car to an ARCA race nine times a year and call it an ARCA car.' He said they would test various parts and pieces and as ARCA and NASCAR changed rules to take some of those parts out of the cars, they'd take them out, and keep other parts still legal and test them in ARCA races too. Probst explained to the jury that while some teams (like Jenkins in his testimony) that they can't repair parts and that costs more money, NASCAR doesn't allow it because 'repair' to teams means 'modify' and 'improve' so they need the parts to be re-purchased to maintain parity. As for the internet NASCAR supplies and charges for, Probst says there are four bandwidth tiers that have different price points and most teams don't even pay for the highest tier internet. He is asked which internet does 23XI subscribe to? The highest. NASCAR does not require teams to subscribe to their internet at all. He says teams used to have satellites on their haulers and when NASCAR started bringing their own internet, teams asked them if they would use it. Teams can still bring their own Starlinks if they want, Probst says. Under cross-examination by Jeffrey Kessler, Probst is told 'you are aware that my clients aren't challenging the NextGen, right' but instead is challenging the non-compete restrictions. Probst says he doesn't understand legalese Kessler asks Probst if he knows of any studies that would support restraining the NextGen car as evidence of pro-competition, and they go back and forth over legalese and needing the question asked in a clearer way Kessler asks about the Gen6* (pronounced Star) which is a version of the old car NASCAR considered using that would make certain components spec instead of building a new car ... the NextGen. Probst wrote in an email that the Gen6* would 'increase the risk to NASCAR of a copycat series' "We don't fear competition," Probst says. Kessler says if that were true, NASCAR wouldn't put exclusivity clauses in the track sanctioning agreements. NASCAR's legal objected but Judge Bell overruled it. Probst answered and said this isn't his department and he doesn't deal with tracks Probst also says protecting company likenesses is common practices. Probst says Coca-Cola wouldn't develop a new drink formula and then immediately let Pepsi copy it. Kessler says 'so when you told the jury NASCAR is okay with competition, you had no basis to say that?' Probst says NASCAR protected itself and its investment in the NextGen. He says no one asked to use the old car in a competing series and no one asked to use the new car in a competing series. "All they have to do is ask," Probst says Kessler says there is no way NASCAR would allow teams to use the NextGen in a non NASCAR series. "We would discuss it," Probst says Probst was asked about Steve Phelps texting that someone needs to put a knife in SRX "I'd assume Steve would answer that question." There was an internal document in which NASCAR executives including OD, Prime, Phelps and Probst were tasked with determining how much it costs to start a Cup team from scratch. Probst said teams mislead or do not answer cost questions accurately or evenly so they wanted to have a better idea of the real answer. Kessler suggests it was an exercise to help Project Gold Codes. Probst says their reasons to do the exercise were altruistic. Kessler asks if Probst wrote the Gold Codes document. He says he contributed. Using the internal cost to field a car document? Probst said he pulled data from the report to project the costs of going 'vertical' in Project Gold Codes. When 13 of 15 teams signed the charter agreement on Sept. 6 2024, Probst texted his chief of staff Tom Swindell. Swindell said 'RIP Project Gold Codes.' Probst said 'YES.' Swindell said this was 'great news' and asked 'what is the leverage for (23XI, FRM) holding out?' Probst said 'I can't see any.' Probst said he and Tom are personal friends and they text about their friends, hobbies, families and work. "No further questions, your honor," Kessler said ending cross-examination.

@jeff_gluck Steve Phelps and Jim France did an amazing job today on the stand.

Big writeup from Day 7 of #NASCOURT nytimes.com/athletic/68760…

@bobpockrass These teams need to cut costs, they are overspending.

The Hendrick letter to Jim France in 2024 said that the team had lost $20M in the last five years while winning two Cup titles.

Jim France direct examination is over and the cross examination will be tomorrow. He did say that he was not in favor of permanent charters.

@jeff_gluck Jim France is infallible

Court is done for the day. I don’t think I’m underselling it to say Jim France’s testimony was shockingly bad so far. Just not good at all for NASCAR IMO.

@bobpockrass Jim France is a benevolent leader who ensures that all his LOYAL subjects are taken care of. That trust is built off the past 75 years of success in NASCAR.

The Phelps testimony ended a tense exchange with Kessler where Kessler asked about teams and Jim France: "They should trust him to be a benevolent dictator?" ... NASCAR attorneys objected and it was sustained. Kessler: "No further questions."

@JennaFryer Jim France and NASCAR absolutely will win. They cannot bow down to these communist unionizers who want to grant more and more power to the incompetent teams who will bankrupt the sport.

Evidence was also introduced that showed France was determined to thwart the teams from the start of negotiations. Notes from the first strategic session on how to approach teams show O’D wrote “Jim’s overarching comment - we are in a competition. We are going to win.”

Jim France testifies he remains opposed to permanent charters

@bobpockrass NASCAR's new charter agreement solves all these problems. Didn't the teams get a larger percentage of the pie in the new agreement?

Childress said his other businesses are keeping his Cup racing operations alive -- "Iwould be broke if I was just doing the Cup teams." And on those other businesses' profits: "That money should be going into my bank account."

Both Phelps and Childress testimony are complete. Childress got the most animated when being asked about a potential sale of at least part of RCR to Bobby Hillin Jr., a potential deal that has fallen apart. Childress owns 60% of the team and said Chartwell Investments wants out.