Nigel

@salsoleto would, without doubt, insist that by their responsibility-talk they absolutely are assuming people can do otherwise. Unless you can show those people have made some mistake about what they mean, there is clear support for my viewpoint right there.

@salsoleto is compatible with determinism. I don’t regard your view (which involves trying to square culpability with an INABILITY to do otherwise) as remotely defensible. As I said long ago, we are at an impasse. I can at least offer the fact that the overwhelming majority of humans...

If we could not have freely chosen our own characters, then it is unjust for God to withhold anyone's salvation. If our free choices are events located in space and time, then they are either fully causally determined or were partly random.

@salsoleto expected someone to do anything different, it follows that he can't be culpable for what he did.

@salsoleto actions in this way. And as soon as an agent can point out that he couldn't have done anything differently, it follows that expecting him to do otherwise is not a reasonable expectation (whether his choices flowed from his desires not not). If it is not reasonable to have...