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@liberty_rules76 @DrJakeQuake @MWAlghoti @GodLogic_GL if unity means they share the same nature, then r the disciples also divine? in john 17:21, jesus prays for his followers to be one just as he and the father r one. if john 10:30 makes jesus god, then john 17:21 makes the 12 disciples part of the godhead too. right?

@Nnas____ @DrJakeQuake @MWAlghoti @GodLogic_GL That’s exactly what he is saying. They are in unity. One unit, separate roles. Same nature.

The "miracle" of the Quran is that it has entire chapters and verses that were lost, yet its followers still consider it to be perfectly preserved to the letter. Chapters lost (Sahih Muslim 1050) Verses lost (Majah 1944)

@liberty_rules76 @MWAlghoti @DrJakeQuake @GodLogic_GL I agree with jesus but we believe his true words are exactly what god preserved in the quran. the bible has thousands of variation and version (niv, kjv, etc), but the quran is 1 single text memorize by millions, word for word, since the beginning. thats the preservation we trust

@liberty_rules76 @MWAlghoti @DrJakeQuake @GodLogic_GL for us, the original injil is the revelation god gave to jesus. while we don't have that original manuscript, we believe the quran was sent as a furqan to tell us which parts of the current bible are still the true words of jesus and which were added or changed by men later on.

@liberty_rules76 @DrJakeQuake @MWAlghoti @GodLogic_GL if one means they r the same god, then why did jesus pray for his disciples to be 'one' just as he and the father r 'one' (john 17:21-22)? r the 12 disciples now part of the godhead too?

@Nnas____ @DrJakeQuake @MWAlghoti @GodLogic_GL Read the rest of the chapter Jesus didn’t say the Father was greater than him. He puts himself on the same level as the father by saying he gives eternal life. God the father is greater than all and has confirmed him as co equal. “I and the father are one.”

@liberty_rules76 @MWAlghoti @DrJakeQuake @GodLogic_GL as for why i believe it’s true, the logic of one absolute god just makes the most sense to my heart and mind. no partners, no equals. the most powerful force. he can forgive people without needing to shed a blood. He doesnt need to be human, nor he need to be died

@liberty_rules76 @MWAlghoti @DrJakeQuake @GodLogic_GL it’s different because in our faith, the quran is the 'furqan' or the criterion. we believe it was sent as the final update to restore the original message of all prophets including jesus. it acts as a corrector to bring back the pure monotheism jesus actually taught

@liberty_rules76 @DrJakeQuake @MWAlghoti @GodLogic_GL 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all how can they be co equal if the father is greater than everyone, including jesus? how?

@Nnas____ @DrJakeQuake @MWAlghoti @GodLogic_GL Could you answer the doctor’s question please? I’d like to know the Muslim perspective of this.

@liberty_rules76 @MWAlghoti @DrJakeQuake @GodLogic_GL actually al-masih in the quran is the same as 'anointed' or mashiach. jesus is the only prophet coming back at the end of times. that role is for him alone

@liberty_rules76 @MWAlghoti @DrJakeQuake @GodLogic_GL While all prophets served a sacred purpose, jesus was unique as a "Sign for Mankind" (Maryam v21). He was born of a virgin to show the greatness of Allah SWT,creating without a father, just as he created adam without parents.

@DrJakeQuake @dePazzi326169 @GodLogic_GL yeah right i got cooked 😆😆😆

@Nnas____ @dePazzi326169 @GodLogic_GL dont play victim after you got cooked dude youve proven yourself to be a liar and intellectually dishonest those that honestly pursue truth leave Islam and become Christian if they continue in truth seeking

@dePazzi326169 @DrJakeQuake @GodLogic_GL thats all u can do, insulting. congrats

@Nnas____ @DrJakeQuake @GodLogic_GL I forgot about the 6th pillar of Islam: bullsh&tting after you get caught. The classic tafsirs read 41:9 as 8 days, you say it's 6. I guess Islam is incoherent since no one can agree. Going hard with made up tradition about Ezra. You are without honor and truth p3do guy.

@DrJakeQuake @4Sarcaustik @GodLogic_GL runaway?? u really is wasting my time here..

@Nnas____ @4Sarcaustik @GodLogic_GL DUDE dont run to new verses when you havent addressed John 20:28-29 The Greek reads "The Lord of Me and the God of Me" when Thomas calls Jesus God why didnt Jesus correct Thomas but instead He agrees with Thomas dont cope here lil guy read the verse or you cant read like MO?

@DrJakeQuake @MWAlghoti @liberty_rules76 @GodLogic_GL running away?? i keep answering u and u keep refuting my question. go on and use your crowd to justify your action. spirit of satan? 🤦🏽🤦🏽 wasting my time really arguing with u

@Nnas____ @MWAlghoti @liberty_rules76 @GodLogic_GL notice how when you ask a Muslim a question they always ramble and run to something else spirit of Satan in them

@AlongeAdedamola @keemii_ @gabrielenuechie @Edenlife9 jesus said 'go and sin no more' (john 8:11). he expected obedience, not a lifelong struggle that justifies doing evil. u r using paul's letters to create a loophole

@Nnas____ @keemii_ @gabrielenuechie @Edenlife9 When a man wrongs you, your true nature is to seek vengeance but that of the spirit is to forgive and leave vengeance to the only true Judge.

That is the beauty of the gospel, Bashir. Paul persecuted innocent people, but the gospel changed him. Peter could split a head in two, but the gospel changed him. Now look at Islam. Muhammad was an honest businessman who liked adults; then Islam happened. He started robbing caravans and saw womanhood in an underage girl. Muhammad Atta was a gentle Egyptian boy; Islam happened, and he piloted a plane into a building.

@DrJakeQuake @4Sarcaustik @GodLogic_GL why wont u listen to what jesus himself said??weird guy. john 14:28 for example 🤦🏽🤦🏽 man the bible load with contradiction i cant comprehend.

@Nnas____ @4Sarcaustik @GodLogic_GL Nope Jesus agreed with Thomas that He is Both Lord AND GOD dont add to the text BUD

@DrJakeQuake @MWAlghoti @liberty_rules76 @GodLogic_GL why refute it? who give authority to god?? answer me.

@Nnas____ @MWAlghoti @liberty_rules76 @GodLogic_GL dont get hung up on authority..thats a different topic Here Jesus does not mention any authority and claims to GIVE ETERNAL LIFE how can a human that is not God decide where Ahmed from Malaysia spends eternity in Heaven or Hell? why would God let a human decide this?

@DrJakeQuake @MWAlghoti @liberty_rules76 @GodLogic_GL 😆😆😆 how can someone give authority to god?? how??

@Nnas____ @MWAlghoti @liberty_rules76 @GodLogic_GL I'm going to ask you another simple question BUD in John 17:2 (the verse you skipped) Jesus claims to GIVE Eternal Life How can a human be the Giver of Eternal Life? Notice how the muslim loves to skip verses

@DrJakeQuake @4Sarcaustik @GodLogic_GL john 20:31, the author literally explains why he wrote this story, so u believe jesus is the messiah. why did john not say god? and explain v17 in the same chapter where jesus says 'i am ascending to my god and ur god'. god doesnt have a god, right? 😏😏

@DrJakeQuake @4Sarcaustik @GodLogic_GL buddy, when did thomas said jesus the lord of me and the god of me?v25: thomas doubted the resurrection. he didnt believe jesus was alive. when he saw the wounds, he believed jesus was resurrected. jesus agreed with his faith in the miracle, not a change in his nature 🤦🏽