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Patrick Smith
@NotGovernor
Peaceful Dad | Entrepreneur | Philosopher | Bullshit Detector CTO President of https://t.co/HLKKGCsFa1 Host of the @Anarchast Liberty Absolutist
Earth, Sol System Katılım Ekim 2017
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Exactly. The concepts are antithetical. The only way coexistence is possible is if the filthy commies ignore their own ideology. This says nothing about the practical wisdom of trying to live next to someone claiming to believe in an ideology that, if ever lived authentically, would make them an imminent threat.
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@NotGovernor @AncapAir I think I get what you're trying to say. It's not what they call themselves that matters so much, but what they do. I'm saying they're fine as long as they don't agress on us or our property, and you're saying if they respect anyone's property, they're communists in name only.
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@NotGovernor I denied myself a reaction to that slop thread, but could not resist reposting your elegant counter.
Hear hear!
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@BrodieOnLinux This might be difficult for someone from the People's Republic of Australia to understand... but capitulating to government controls always results in less liberty.
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I'll probably talk about this later but the point of this is being added is to be in control of it rather than having the government come along and force a much worse solution, you can give it fake information
Lain on the Blockchain@CryptoCyberia
wow, systemd is adding an age variable for future digital ID laws. Linux users are not going to like this.
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@AncapAir @Cyberpunk_2800 I didn't speak for anybody. It was an *if* statement focused on a foundational pillar of communism: the rejection of "private" property.
You cannot be a communist if you, even tacitly, affirm "private" property. This isn't remotely controversial.
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@NotGovernor @Cyberpunk_2800 So, you speak for all ancoms of the world? You know without a doubt due to literal foresight that they are guaranteed to attack their ancap neighbors?
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Exactly. We took the grotesque, contradictory homunculus that was ancient anarchism, burned out the envy-based philosophy of death that is communism, and replaced it with the philosophy of life: capitalism, property rights, and consent. And yall have been malding about it ever since.🤣
Lunatic Martin@metalmartin6669
@NotGovernor @paine_l98812 Yes, you changed it into something it is not. Congratulations.
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You've been presenting 101 level objections to modern anarchy that have been well answered since the 1970's, showing I'm not the one needing some remedial reading. If you're interested in an understanding beyond the stone-aged socialist fan fiction of long-dead looters I suggest you.... lol we know you're not interested. Good bye now.
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@NotGovernor You have been very helpful. You've confirmed all my beliefs about how deluded 'ancaps' are. If you're interested in understanding the history of anarchism, I suggest you start with Proudhon. He is generally recognized as the first person to identify himself as an anarchist. 1840.
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@paine_l98812 Correct. People that we're for aggression against peaceful people due to a poor conception of property were never anarchists at all. Most "hierarchy" is not authoritarian as it's consensual, however. Glad I could help.
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@NotGovernor So the classical anarchists weren't anarchists at all. I'll be damned. So hierarchy is not a bug in ancapism, it is a core feature. And all that talk about being anti-authoritarian was just bull shit. Anarchy is just another type of authoritarianism.
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He's dead wrong. It's not how a group treats consenting members of its community that determine if it is compatible with liberty, it's how they treat their non-consenting neighbors.
If one respects the "private" property of their neighbors, they are not behaving as communists... They're just weird capitalists, and that's fine. If one is an actual communist, they do not respect their neighbors "private" property, and are a threat to be dealt with accordingly.
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@NotGovernor @AncapAir likes to make the point that as long as the ancoms and other types of anarchists don't initiate force, they can believe in whatever they want in their voluntary commune, and still be compatible with freedom.
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@paine_l98812 AnCaps are the ones using the word properly. Call that commie shit whatever you want. Words mean things.
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@NotGovernor Call it whatever. Just don't call it anarchism. Words mean things, and cannot be arbitrarily changed or used improperly. Look what happened with the word, 'liberal.' It's now meaningless.

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@AlisDekay """If""" they respect the "private" property of their neighbors they are definitionally tacitly not communists... They would just be weird capitalists... And THAT's okay.
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@paine_l98812 Yes. That is what they thought. They were wrong. We refined the ideas. It happens.
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@NotGovernor Traditional anarchists define anarchism as the rejection of all forms of authority, domination, and hierarchy - including economic ones.
"Anarcho-capitalism cannot be anarchism because capitalism exhibits domineering hierarchical structures."
- Albert Meltzer
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@paine_l98812 Wrong on all counts. There's no question. It doesnt literally mean "no hierarchy". Property is not "archy".
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@NotGovernor There's a huge question of whether ancapism is even anarchy.
An-archy literally means 'no hierarchy.' Supporting property-based authority is still "archy" — just privatized.
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@Tommybunchanums Contradictory ideologies have always existed, and will continue to exist.
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@NotGovernor Mutualism existed before anarcho-capitalism (or even communism IIRC) and is what anarcho-capitalism is based on.
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@NotGovernor "I used to be an anarchist, too. Then I grew up ... and now I kiss the ass of political psychopaths, and advocate the enslavement of mankind. Like a responsible adult!"
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@reddit_lies It's the only story they know how to tell.
Big corp bad. Ruin future. Dystopia.
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