@lucy12351074437 @BelleM90275 it began with supernatural fanfics actually,you're probably new new here to not know this
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Ocean Drop
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Ocean Drop
@OceanDrop685861
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Katılım Haziran 2024
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@BelleM90275 Omegaverse is not new for sure. It's been going around in fanfic for more than a decade with werewolves-like tropes...Supernatural fanfic was not the first. The Sentinel, for exemple, you already have those kind of fanfic. And even in Star Trek, Buffy, Teen Wolf's fanfic etc.
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This has got to be the dumbest take, Omegaverse comes from Wolves. It started from Supernatural Fanfics and now authors have their own rules.
Kass 🖤@wixximv
I now understand why Oat said the foolish ignorant bs he said when people jumped down his throat. I’m 100% betting the information he was sharing was given by the directors of Knot and they used literal wolves as source material instead of actual omegaverse material 🤦♀️
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@Ali_Gene99 Mas o conceito de black face não é a ridicularização de pessoas pretas utilizando esteriótipos de etnia e cultura? Vivemos em mundo multicultural e claro q internet ta aí mas ele não se representou como um personagem da cultura dele? Sei pouco da cultura tradicional tailandesa
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Black face é black face, não tem o que discutir em relação a isso, até pq eles não vivem em uma bolha isolada sem conhecimento do que acontece no restante do mundo.
O contexto que foi explicado é interessante mas não tira o peso da forma que foi retratado. Inclusive a pintura+
ay ૮ ․ ․ ྀིა QT🥧@aylinhadosedits
Eu vou vir aqui falar disso, porque já começou a falarem que estão defendendo quem faz black face. As Thai fans explicaram já, que é um personagem da cultura deles, mas sempre vai ter uma pessoa branca das Américas falando “AI PQ É MÃE DE MENINO DEFENDENDO…” Segue a tradução da nota de uma fã tailandesa: “Para quem não conhece ou sabe muito sobre a cultura Thai, Poom está vestido como Ngo Pa (เงาะป่า), um personagem folclórico antigo da cultura tailandesa, não se trata de uma paródia de pessoas negras. Ngo Pa faz parte do folclore tailandês e de perfomances folclóricas tradicionais por mais de um século. Esse personagem é representado com a pele escura, cabelo cacheado e vestido assim como quem habita a floresta. Essa descrição é usada nas performances de teatro, nas escolas e eventos culturais para representar esse personagem específico. Porque a caracterização inclui a por escura na maquiagem, é compreensível que o fandom internacional associe isso com blackface, especialmente pela história dolorosa de blackface em vários países do Ocidente. O que na verdade, aqui a história e o contexto cultural é completamente destinto. O traje tem a intenção de recriar um personagem muito conhecido da literatura tailandesa, não zombar, estereotipar, ou imitar pessoas afrodescendentes. Dito isso, o contexto cultural não pode ser sempre traduzido entre países, e está tudo bem que as pessoas façam perguntas ou expresse preocupação sobre. O importante é compreender ambas as perspectivas: a cultura tailandesa por trás do traje e as sensibilidades históricas em torno dame imagens semelhantes em outros lugares.” IB: @enfer_les Thanks about the explanation 🫂 Agora voltando aqui ao português. Gostaria de recordá-los que a Tailândia é um dos únicos países do mundo que nunca foi colonizado. O que simboliza que muitas das nossas histórias não é algo vivido pelas pessoas de lá como nação. Entendo a estranheza, eu própria quando vi fiquei chocada, mas eu sabia da existência desse personagem, porque eu , desde que me interessei por séries e produções tailandesas, busquei ler sobre o folclore e a mitologia deles. Fica aí para vocês a explicação. Estou traduzindo isso para quem realmente se interessa sobre, para quem quer lançar hate gratuitamente, não tenho papo algum.
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This one of those moments where us black people have to take a deep breath, take a step back, and do our own research.
L'enfer, c'est les autres | Kitti@enfer_les
It's not blackface. He's dressed as Ngo Pa, a character from Thai classical literature.
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@poompps1 I believe we can all agree that even though, it’s Thai culture, it is still rooted in colourism and racism. He didn’t get accepted till he transformed to a lighter shade. That’s not a positive message to send while using the caricature of a dark indigenous community.
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ภูมิก็คงไม่สบายใจนั่นแหละ เด็กมันจิตใจดี ไม่เคยทำร้ายคนอื่น พอมีคนไม่สบายใจเพราะตนเอง ย่อมต้องคิดมากบ้าง แต่เชื่อว่าน้องภูมิจะปรับจิตใจได้เร็ว รู้ว่ามันคือความเป็นไปของโลกใบนี้ที่จะมีทั้งคนเข้าใจและไม่ไม่เข้าใจ เราแค่รู้ตัวก็พอว่าเรามีเจตนาอะไร น้องอาจจะเข้าใจสัจธรรมชีวิตได้เร็วกว่าพวกเราด้วยซ้ำ
น้องภูมิเข้าวัดเป็นประจำ ฟังธรรมะ ได้รับการอบรมจากพ่อแม่เป็นอย่างดี ไม่กินแม้กระทั่งปลาหมึกตัวเป็นๆ เพราะสงสาร เห็นคนรถล้มก็ลงไปช่วย เห็นพระสงฆ์ไม่สบายนั่งอยู่ริมถนนก็ไปคอยดูแล ฉันที่โพสต์ว่าป่วยเป็นโรคมะเร็ง น้องมาอ่านเจอ ยังไม่มองข้าม ยังมาโพสต์ให้กำลังใจ รวมถึงคนอื่นๆ หากน้องรู้ว่าต้องการกำลังใจก็ไม่เคยเพิกเฉย
ถ้าคุณรู้จักตัวตนของเค้า คุณจะรู้ว่าเค้าไม่มีทางทำร้ายจิตใจคนอื่น และฉันก็ภูมิใจในตัวเขามากๆ
#poompps
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@nanalogz I have dark skin n curly hair and infact still live in Africa.
We should not be out here trying to tell others because their culture hurts you (who has no business enjoying or consuming)when you are the one with low sense of belonging n believing others cultures should cater to u
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@snowydbxisnbejd @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero And this alone tells me you don't even know shit about history, stay mad, I'm glad that racist shit got shut down
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@OceanDrop685861 @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero я потомок рабов, которых тоже насиловали, пытали и убивали. на практике в моей культуре предле чем женщина-крепосная крестьянка выйдет замуж дворянин должен был "опробвать" её. и что мне теперь? искать потомков дворян и мстить? ненавидеть всех и вся?
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Me preocupa el como esto puede impactar a futuro en las historias del BL.
Que es lo que quieren? Historias vacías, faciles de digerir donde haya uno bueno, uno malo y un final feliz?
Me da miedo pensar que tengamos historias asi por el miedo de las autoras a ser señaladas
🤠JAXX🤠@jaxx_s2
황야의 노래 (Song of the wasteland) 판매 중단에 관하여 알려드립니다. 책임을 무겁게 느끼고 앞으로 신중한 작품활동을 하고자 자의로 결정한 바입니다. 더 나은 작업물로 찾아뵙겠습니다. To readers, I humbly accept the criticism that several scenes in Episode 1 contained disrespectful depictions of other cultures and people. Even if the direction and themes of the story differ from what you may be concerned about, I have decided not to launch the work, as the fundamental limitations of this project's premise are clear. I believe this situation has revealed my complacent attitude toward human rights sensitivity when handling a specific era and setting, and that my storytelling lacked sufficient care and nuance. I am deeply ashamed. In my eagerness to focus on the characters, I failed to fully recognize that I was replicating problematic historical contexts and representational tropes found in past works. I also deeply resonate with the criticism that the characterization in question was not something to be treated lightly within a genre like BL. What I had told myself was passion for the storiesl, I now recognize as arrogance. I was not as prepared or as careful as this story required me to be. I apologize for any displeasure caused to you, and I will carry this reflection with me as I continue. Sincierly, JAXX 독자님들께. 1화의 몇 장면에서 타문화와 타인에 대한 무례한 묘사가 보인다는 비판을 겸허히 받아들입니다. 앞으로의 전개나 주제가 걱정하시는 바와 다르다고 해도, 이 프로젝트의 설정 자체에 근본적 한계가 명확하기에, 작품은 런칭하지 않는 것으로 결정했습니다. 이번 일로 특정 시대와 배경을 다루는 데 있어 저의 안일한 인권 감수성이 드러났다고 생각하며, 연출에서의 섬세함 또한 부족했다고 생각합니다. 무척 부끄럽습니다. 주인공에 초점을 맞춰 그린다는 생각에 몰입하다 보니 역사적 맥락과 그간 창작물들이 잘못해 온 표현 방식을 답습했다는 부분을 제대로 인지하지 못했습니다. 장르물에서 가볍게 다룰만한 캐릭터 설정이 아니라는 지적에도 깊이 공감했습니다. 소재에 대한 욕심이 결국 오만함으로 표출된 것 같아 반성하며 자신을 돌아보고 있습니다. 작업물에 대한 비판은 무거운 마음으로 수용하겠습니다. 감상에 불편을 드려 죄송합니다. 잭스 드림
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@snowydbxisnbejd @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero You're here excusing this story and I'm supposed to believe anything you say? Gtfo with all that crap
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@OceanDrop685861 @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero Твои слова не повлияют на моё отношение к адекватным чернокожим людям, потому что такие были в тик токе. Они высказывались логично и понятно и было то с чем я согласна и с чем не согласна, но в целом я репостила и оставляла автору комментарии поддержки, без всякой токсичности
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@OceanDrop685861 @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero ты меня вообще не слышишь. я тебе про Фому, ты мне про Ерёму. к слову, я всегда считала чернокожих красивыми, особенно женщин и я писала им комплименты, вроде "Вау! Ты очень красивая!" потому что они реально красивые. Вилимо ты просто чсв и высокомерная сука
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@LandyChabl82859 @nabi28761 @esquizo_vero Who tf is they? I don't read that shit and I don't indulge in that nonsense, so you can go fuck off with all that
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@OceanDrop685861 @nabi28761 @esquizo_vero Cierra el culo perra, se mojan los calzones con el fetiche del ruso mafioso y las chicas rusas no hacen drama por eso. Aquí las únicas perros son las gringas de moral selectiva. Son un verdadero dolor en el culo, sólo sirven para joder gente.
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@snowydbxisnbejd @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero You can't give me a single recommendation when you don't even understand the reason why this manhwa is fucked up, the time you take here, go and read and stfu
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@OceanDrop685861 @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero если бы среди поработителей не было бы ЛЮДЕЙ (обычных настоящих людей), то такого человека, как Оскар Шиндлер (загуглите) не существовало бы. Советую посмотреть фильм Список Шиндлера.
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@snowydbxisnbejd @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero That's your problem if you don't want to, don't use black and brown ppl and their struggles during the civil unrest as your fucking storyline to uphold white superiority
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@OceanDrop685861 @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero Мой русский народ подверагался ужаснейшим пыткам со стороны нацистов во 2 мировой войне по рассовому признаку, когда заживо выкалывали глаза и происходил геноцид славянского населения в газовых ксмерах. То есть мне теперь немцам об этом всегда кричать? Указывать им на это?
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@snowydbxisnbejd @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero Idgaf what he lost, his family and his bloodline had slaves who were murdered, raped, tortured DAILY! You racist ass
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@OceanDrop685861 @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero кстати говоря главы герой манхвы никого сам из них не пленил. он их отпустил и дал им денег. всё. и почему вообще вы не берёте его чувства в счёт? он потерял близких, свой дом. или страдания белых не имеют значения? это пахнет расизмом. историю Эзры мы не знаем
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@snowydbxisnbejd @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero there's nothing romantic about slavery, point end! you are defending that and that tells me exactly the type of person you are
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@OceanDrop685861 @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero то, что происходило в амеркие это ужасно и любое притеснение по рассовому признаку это ужасно и необоснованно. но вы обобщаете сейчас. мы берём двух отдельно взятых персонажей. у них может не быть взаимной неприязни и ненависти. а может и быть частично? мы не знаем
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@snowydbxisnbejd @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero it's not my place to educate you, it's all right in your face but the reason you don't want to see it is cause you are racist, bye
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@OceanDrop685861 @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero нужно уметь отличать фанатика "рассвого превосходства" от обычного человека. сюжет манхвы мог строиться на противоречиях, на непонимании, обидах и в конечном итоге решении. не стоит обобщать персонажей и давать им те качества, которых у них нет.никто из нас теперь не сможет знать
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@goodboi_01 @tigerushkk Mountain out of a molehill cause you don't have a slave trope to jerk off to? Bitch please
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@OceanDrop685861 @tigerushkk You're the racists. You always make a mountain out of a molehill. All you know how to do is accuse others without even bothering to find out what's really going on. You're damn pathetic.
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@snowydbxisnbejd @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero Your idea of teasing is twisted! Ppl who were murdered, separated, scalped and had their culture snatched from them aren't a comedy show for your "teasing" go do that shit somewhere else
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@OceanDrop685861 @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero такие работы были всегда. но в работе jaxx я считаю был бы немного другой поворот. учитывая, что "Владелец" отпустил своих рабов и дал им денег он скорее всего отпустил всех и того ковбоя тоже. ковбой скорее всего дразнил его "хозяином"
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@nabi28761 @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero Shut the fuck up, and go watch your russian movies then bitch
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@OceanDrop685861 @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero In films, Russians are always portrayed as bad mafiosi, but for some reason, Russians don't care about this and I understand that this is a movie, it's not serious, and you and others like you go and whine that people can read or watch such genres without taking it too seriously
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@snowydbxisnbejd @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero what will happen to a native American during the civil war? do you think they would be falling in love with their white captive slave master, you dumb fuck? They would be scalped, separated , their reservations burnt and their culture destroyed! It's not a fucking love story
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@OceanDrop685861 @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero причём тут извращения и желания, когда интересна сама история. это не история ради секса, это не хентай. мне интересно что будет с персонажами, их отношения, их судьба, будут ли они вообще вместе? а ты сексуализировал персонажей своим испорченным мышлением
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@snowydbxisnbejd @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero if you're comfortable with that nonsense, that's on you and your people history, don't use others to justify your kinks and desires, native American have gone through enough
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@OceanDrop685861 @LandyChabl82859 @esquizo_vero Сериал Великолепный век, буквально о русской рабыне, которая потеряла всё (вклбчая своего мужа), была украдена, порабощена и оказалась в гареме Султана. Рабство в Османской империи часто романтизируется. Роксолана ещё и влюбляется в него спустя время
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