@ShadowofEzra You walked up to him and called him “a fucking zionist pig.” Clearly a hate crime and the person doing it should have been arrested. Obviously.
Rabbi Shmuley loses his mind and demands that a New York police officer arrest a random person for a “hate crime” after being verbally called a “Zionist pig.”
Shmuley claims his life was under attack and that he could have died.
“He is guilty of a hate crime.”
@JakeJohnyrwr@DissidentMedia So? Saudis and Egyptians carried out the attacks and We are allies with them. Al Qaeda did the attacks, and we’ve since funded and supported them in Syria, and we are now fighting their enemies in Iran and Iraq and Syria. Palestinians were/are oppressed by American policy and $$.
@georgejone66403@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia Thats not what they did. Hamas got everything they needed plus suitcases full of cash, the innocent civilians suffered because they were the target
@OctopusHero@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia Ok, so if Israel stopped things entering into Gaza to ensure Hamas didn't have weapons or infrastructure, that would've been wrong.
@OctopusHero@BarbarianMode@DissidentMedia The Iran war. I don’t like Ben for many reasons, but he is incredibly smart and talented. He has debated many people. You can Google it. He also debated Parker recently.
@georgejone66403@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia Not really. It would have to be a very specific occurrence where a lot more innocent people would be killed if it weren’t carried out. For Israel it’s an everyday occurrence. There are little kids killed by IDF snipers nearly everyday. And journalists are targeted more than ever.
@georgejone66403@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia No, none of this is ok, Israel is funding and arming terrorists to control and eventually remove an entire population of people. And now they are doing the exact same thing to southern Lebanon. At the very least I don’t want my taxes supporting this evil. It’s disgusting
@OctopusHero@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia Does that criticism of not doing the realpolitik of funding your enemy's enemy apply to any other nations?
I mean, let's say that Hamas is Israel's enemy (true): if Israel were to, say, control the imports to the area Hamas controls in order to restrict their funding, is that ok?
@georgejone66403@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia On the Egyptian side, you still have to go through Israeli guards on the Gaza side to come or go. And Israel has bombed that crossing multiple times now so obviously they control it lol
There hasn’t been any in my lifetime, to answer your question. There aren’t many.
@OctopusHero@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia The rafah crossing is controlled by Egypt.
Now: tell me a military action where children's deaths are justifiable collateral damage.
@Boomlawyer10830@BarbarianMode@DissidentMedia I’m not really familiar with him. What do he and Ben disagree on? I just chimed in because I have been saying Shapiro lacks substance and refuses to debate anyone of substance for over a decade. He’s a one-trick pony.
@georgejone66403@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia No, it would mean not funding and creating terrorists organizations (they have funded ISIS, and are in Syria on the side of Al Qaeda now) at bare minimum, also to not subjugate the people living under said terrorists and constantly murder kids throwing rocks at shit like that.
@OctopusHero@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia Where is my strawman?
You said Israel permitted October 7 by standing down their military; logically, that would mean the only way to stop October 7 would be ensuring the security that you *also* decry.
@georgejone66403@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia Actually I’m trying to answer your strawman in a way that gets my actual point across. When you go “so you were saying… a bunch of shit that was never said.” I’m not giving that the validation of a yes or no lol. That’s not a red herring at all
@georgejone66403@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia Israel used Hamas to do exactly what they have done to Gaza. Level the whole place, including hospitals, mosques, and 2000 year old Christian churches and rebuild it with Israeli settlers replacing the population. Otherwise known as genocide, ethnic cleansing, etc.
@OctopusHero@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia Also, you failed to address the fact that, according to you, Oct 7 happened because Israel *didnt* keep up what you're calling a concentration camp, or how many children could justifiably die as collateral damage in war.
@georgejone66403@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia To control it… since it’s a prison camp… then they funded and facilitated “elections” giving power to the baddest, most ruthless prison gang, Hamas, and the “guards” were funneling them $35 million in cash a month right up until October 7th. Weapons too! Also, created by them.
@georgejone66403@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia Gaza has been a concentration camp by most definition since 1948, but especially since 2005 when it was walled in on all sides and blockaded at sea so all trade and travel had to go through tough Israeli approval. It’s an own air prison camp 100%. Then it was leveled, soon seized
@OctopusHero@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia Neither of those things defends Hamas' actions. What you're now arguing is that unless Israel takes part in actions that Dave refers to as forming a concentration camp, then it's their fault when they're attacked.
Name me a war where the death of children as CD is acceptable
@georgejone66403@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia If we are talking about the Gaza War, we know Israel funded Hamas $35 million a month in cash, and the IDF stood down on October 7th, letting the attack happen. So they funded and created that one too.
IDF targets children in NICUs and in daily sniper fire, so kids are relevant.
@georgejone66403@KaySkinX@DissidentMedia Israel’s response? The started the war and several others, so it doesn’t even matter which one we are talking about. The Iran War is illegal because they posed no imminent threat to us and it hasn’t been authorized by Congress. In the US, that makes it illegal. Idk about Israel.