The Auld Bird

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The Auld Bird

The Auld Bird

@OldYaffle

Katılım Temmuz 2015
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The Auld Bird
The Auld Bird@OldYaffle·
@LukeTheGooner @14will14 @DarrenArsenal1 Why is this worse than the club selling tickets to their chosen highest bidders for £2000+ in the first place? Why is touting worse than "hospitality" here? I don't get why everyone is totally fine with rich, famous people getting these tickets normal people are excluded from.
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Luke
Luke@LukeTheGooner·
@14will14 @DarrenArsenal1 He just advocated it’s ok to tout. If someone has an away ticket issued from the club and they’ve sold it for £2000 that should be traced back and person should be banned IMO
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Darren
Darren@DarrenArsenal1·
So heres the thing with tickets, you may feel it unfair, but like with every high profile sports game in the world, buying tickets often comes down to one persons ability to pay £X for tickets. It may be unfair to you, but thats the way of the world. So if your getting angry re @piersmorgan being at Palace. There were a lot of other people who were paying £2000+ for tickets. These tickets more often or not wouldnt be for the average match going fan anyway. Go try and buy a ticket for the Knicks finals games right now. Exactly the same. Lots of said people are not getting tickets in away ends. So havent taken tickets from you. Stop wasting energy and being angry on stuff when there are bigger issues to be annoyed about. Like how many tickets we have fir Budapest!
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Newt Gingrich
Newt Gingrich@newtgingrich·
Instead of fighting over a 21-mile-wide bottleneck forever, we cut a new channel through friendly territory. A dozen thermonuclear detonations and you’ve got a waterway wider than the Panama Canal, deeper than the Suez, and safe from Iranian attacks. chinatalk.media/p/its-time
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The Auld Bird
The Auld Bird@OldYaffle·
@PoznanInMyPants He went to school with the famous philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein. Hitler was held back a grade while Wittgenstein was advanced a grade (some suggest this was the source of Hitler's antisemitism). But both of them emit strong home schooled energy, so maybe it's just a Linz thing.
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Poz
Poz@PoznanInMyPants·
Tbf I haven't fact checked this theory I had. I'm pretty busy at the moment. Will try to later.
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Poz@PoznanInMyPants·
Adolf Hitler was home schooled. Just saying.
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Natalie Marleny
Natalie Marleny@NatalieMarleny·
@UltraLinx Yup I need an app where I upload a pdf and it outputs the content in this format for me to read 📖💫
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Oliur
Oliur@UltraLinx·
Can you read 900 words per minute? Try it.
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davidr
davidr@drue2514·
@cezthesocialist 34% of Londoners feel it is unsafe and yet you are saying this is good. According to google 2% of people in Singapore feel unsafe walking alone at night which I can believe based on experience of both cities. We should aim for better.
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cez
cez@cezthesocialist·
Londoners think it’s a safe place to live, the rest of the UK think otherwise. This aligns with other data where places with low immigration are much more likely to think it’s a problem, showing the effectiveness of media narratives with people who lack experience with the issue.
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The Auld Bird
The Auld Bird@OldYaffle·
@OliverKamm @rcolvile @DEhnts @KingEconomist @ZackPolanski This passage picks out the right problem: the *perception* that MMT implies progressives don't need to worry about costs. It's that perception which is wrong. MMT 100% recognises at the outset that there is no free lunch, but its critics (& some supporters) fail to perceive this.
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Oliver Kamm
Oliver Kamm@OliverKamm·
@rcolvile @DEhnts @KingEconomist And there’s a useful book, from an unabashedly leftwing standpoint, called What’s Wrong with Modern Money Theory?: A Policy Critique by Gerald Epstein, which makes an essential point that has sadly passed @ZackPolanski by. Politicians do need to talk the language of priorities.
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Dirk Ehnts
Dirk Ehnts@DEhnts·
When you run out of arguments (and are ashamed of falling for the taxpayer money myth developed by Margaret Thatcher, which was used to privatize public assets for the gain of the few):
Robert Colvile@rcolvile

@AndyLippok Sorry, I mute for MMT.

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Patricia
Patricia@PatriciaNPino·
A short🧵 on MMT & power: First and foremost MMT is a description & does not contain a prescribed pathway for working class liberation. That was not what MMT as a theory set out to do. However, even a description has political implications & here I set out a couple. >
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The Auld Bird
The Auld Bird@OldYaffle·
@roberthorrocks @DavidBeckworth @farmerrf Yes, I think sometimes this view is encouraged by slogans like "the price level is a function of the prices government pays when it spends". Something like 'downstream of' would maybe make it clearer that of course price levels aren't simply a function of that initial mechanism!
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robert horrocks
robert horrocks@roberthorrocks·
@OldYaffle @DavidBeckworth @farmerrf Ok. This is my issue, then. Because I thought MMT was claiming it had a fully-worked out explanation of the price level. If it doesn’t claim that, fair enough. I must sleep now.
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David Beckworth
David Beckworth@DavidBeckworth·
Great points from @farmerrf
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Roger E. A. Farmer@farmerrf

It is perfectly possible to formulate MMT using the language of temporary equilibrium theory. One reason, perhaps, why that exercise has not yet been attempted is that it forces the modeler to make internally consistent statements about concepts they take for granted. For example, Randall Wray in his treatise on MMT acknowledges that if the economy is at ‘full employment’ a government that consistently finances additional expenditure by money creation, will cause inflation. But he does not define full employment. Where I agree with Randall Wray, is that under some circumstances money financed expenditure will increase employment. Where I disagree with Wray, is that increasing employment is always a social good. Unlike Randall, I have a fully articulated theory of what it means for an economy to be at full employment. static1.squarespace.com/static/573b5f2… MMT economists assert that the government does not need to balance its budget and that — under some circumstances — deficits can, and should be, financed by money creation. I agree. But how large should the deficit be? Is there an optimal size fo government debt? MMT has no answer to that question. Neoclassical economics does. Peter Diamond in his 1965 paper, “National Debt in a Neoclassical Growth Model”, showed that government debt can, under some circumstances, increase social welfare. The reason is that, even at full employment, the interest rate in a competitive economy can be less than the growth rate. And in that case, money or debt financed expenditure is costless. @wbmosler Warren Mosler, in his seminal article on MMT, uses the analogy of a family whose parent issues tokens. If he had pushed that analogy further to recognize that generations overlap and trade with each other, he might have rediscovered Diamond’s work. Importantly, Peter’s work does not imply that government can or should increase the value of its liabilities without limit. My reading of MMT critiques of neoclassical economics suggests that most of the critics, perhaps not all, have a very limited view of what is taught in graduate economics programs. I have my own speculations about the nature of the quantum universe. But I do not share those thoughts on X because I have a very limited knowledge of what is taught in graduate physics programs. I am a consumer of works by theoretical and experimental physicists, not a producer. If I were to wade into debates on the nature of the universe, I would try to do it with a degree of humility and without the use of expletives and insults that have been displayed by some of those on this forum who feel compelled to attack mainstream economics without apparently understanding what they are attacking.@albertobisin @RelearningEcon @ProfHall1955 @GeorgeSelgin @JesusFerna7026 @ProfSteveKeen @sndurlauf @StephanieKelton

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The Auld Bird
The Auld Bird@OldYaffle·
@roberthorrocks @DavidBeckworth @farmerrf Hopefully my other reply helped here. There is of course a central role for private actors. But Govt policy can play an important part, e.g. by taxing away £ at different rates, running higher deficits, using legislative levers to shift investment from one sector to another, etc.
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robert horrocks
robert horrocks@roberthorrocks·
@OldYaffle @DavidBeckworth @farmerrf … is what about V? What role for government in setting V other than the interest rate… but that is to be pegged… no role for private actors ??? I remain confused.
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The Auld Bird
The Auld Bird@OldYaffle·
@roberthorrocks @DavidBeckworth @farmerrf It depends on the price level of what, but in almost any case the answer will be: lots of things! Likely market forces as well as initial Govt decisions to set min wage at X price, tax at Y value, set interest rates at Z level, etc. There isn't (and shouldn't be) a simple answer.
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The Auld Bird
The Auld Bird@OldYaffle·
@roberthorrocks @DavidBeckworth @farmerrf Mosler's example is getting his kids to do chores: he decrees 3 chores = 1 business card. 1 card/week is the required tax to avoid grounding. But even if this sets initial prices, the economic situation gets more complex fast as e.g. people trade cards etc., so prices change. 2/2
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The Auld Bird
The Auld Bird@OldYaffle·
@roberthorrocks @DavidBeckworth @farmerrf MMT doesn't think Govt sets prices directly like a command economy. MMT does think Govt has lots of initial price-setting power, both now and under its ideal system. Govts have this power as they buy labour/goods, regulate, etc, but most crucially they set the tax liability. 1/2
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The Auld Bird
The Auld Bird@OldYaffle·
@roberthorrocks @DavidBeckworth @farmerrf ...are a function of the constraints in the economy (e.g. the 'real' resources available), together with the Govt's price-setting capacities (e.g. paying a minimum wage to Job Guarantee workers, which can set a price floor to anchor labour prices in the economy more broadly). 2/2
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The Auld Bird
The Auld Bird@OldYaffle·
@roberthorrocks @DavidBeckworth @farmerrf MV=PT is just an accounting identity. Its crude use in standard models comes from assumptions MMT rejects, e.g. the exogeneity of 'M'. Central banks set the price, not quantity, of M. It's a policy choice to set it >0 (read: tinyurl.com/mvke2tda). Prices more generally... 1/2
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AndyD🇪🇺🇬🇧
AndyD🇪🇺🇬🇧@wihtwyrd·
@PatriciaNPino In the coming budget what would you do under MMT to counter high inflation plus rising unemployment without creating stagflation?
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Patricia
Patricia@PatriciaNPino·
I'm seeing the usual broad dismissal of MMT by pundits an mainstream economists but little of substance to counter its claims. I'm sorry it makes you uncomfortable. Please be specific in your critiques.
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The Auld Bird
The Auld Bird@OldYaffle·
@andreww84509471 @CeeMacBee It's impossible for a monetarily sovereign nation to default on the currency it issues. Bankruptcy doesn't apply here. Also 100% is lower than e.g. US, Canada, Singapore, France, Japan. Govt debt is just the sum of the private sector's wealth as created by previous Govt spending.
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andrew williams ⚒️
andrew williams ⚒️@andreww84509471·
@CeeMacBee The question I don’t think is being discussed anywhere near enough is the fact of how can we avoid state bankruptcy if debt is 100% of GDP, growth is is 0.1% but the gilt rate is 4:53%?
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The Auld Bird
The Auld Bird@OldYaffle·
@GeorgeWarwick12 @StevenHailAus You've (perhaps unwittingly) hit the nail on the head there! All MMTers believe that the thing limiting the extent of £ creation is exactly as you say: real productive capacity. MMTers think real productive capacity is the very thing we have to attend to (and maximise if we can).
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Steven Hail
Steven Hail@StevenHailAus·
I don't mind a vigorous but polite debate with people who don't use our MMT frame for making sense of macroeconomic issues, but I am SO tired of both plain abuse and straw-man, ignorant dismissals (due to a lack of research and repeating the words of others no better informed).
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The Auld Bird
The Auld Bird@OldYaffle·
@Garak42069 @GeorgeWarwick12 @StevenHailAus The basic idea that the printing of money is a tool to achieve social goals is accepted by everyone, not just MMTers. It would be odd to think otherwise! Where MMT differs is by saying that the restrictions on this activity are of a different kind from those assumed in orthodoxy.
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Garak
Garak@Garak42069·
@OldYaffle @GeorgeWarwick12 @StevenHailAus But MMT does argue that money printing is a tool to achieve any and all social goals. So essentially money should be utilized as an instrument of state power (because apparently that’s already what it is?) it’s a justification of central planning, not a description of reality.
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The Auld Bird
The Auld Bird@OldYaffle·
@GeorgeWarwick12 @StevenHailAus Well done, you've done the exact thing he's just said he's tired of and made up a strawman to disagree with. No MMTers say 2. Why assert something like this with such confidence? Why not read any MMT text instead/first, if you're actually interested rather than merely trolling?
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The Office of George Warrick
The Office of George Warrick@GeorgeWarwick12·
@StevenHailAus My biggest problem with MMT is the logical leap from 1. This is how money is created To 2. Therefore we should create infinite money this way.
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The Auld Bird
The Auld Bird@OldYaffle·
@DarrenArsenal1 Ugh, gutted to miss this. I only got one email, yesterday, and then the window shuts the very next day? That's pretty rubbish comms from the club
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Darren
Darren@DarrenArsenal1·
Reminder access to Quarter Final Seats for Standard Season Ticket holders to get thier seats for Crystal Palace in the Carabao ends at 1pm today Reminder if you have Club Level Seats these are already included and you need to do nothing.
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