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@Always123BC Wiktionary gives an example of an older usage. It's a colloquial thing too, the Judge is a Southern man and this is reported speech, though without quotation marks.

@OudVelvet @usutav @animalologist I couldn’t find anything saying that it’s old-fashioned to omit the “may”? I still don’t understand why he omitted the word. If he hadn’t, I would’ve thought the human text better by a lot, but the “as well” annoyed me so much I went with the boring AI slop.

Having worked on literary passages with thousands of high schoolers, I’m just gonna let y’all know that >50% of adults straight up do not know what the left passage is saying. It is opaque to them. At least 20% of people will struggle with the one on the right too, although probably not of the people who’d take this test for fun. They’ll ~all basically get & perhaps be moved by the right. At best 2/3 can even grok the left though. Genuinely. The syntax is too unintuitive for people who don’t regularly read old prose. If you struggle with it too much, you’ll also prefer the other one that came more naturally and carried similar emotional weight — perhaps even more, since your faculties weren’t overtaxed trying to understand it

@Always123BC @usutav @animalologist You understood it just fine the first time: it means the same as "may as well", though it is more old-fashioned to omit the "may" or "might". It has nothing to do with word order; shifting "as well" to the end would change the meaning to "also", which is not what is meant.

@usutav @animalologist Interesting, not even sure I fully understand the sentence. The AI passage reads like something a child would write. AI straining to write like a clueless child 😂

@Howlingmutant0 @James10Archie so much has been lost

*hearing the most awful pandering attempt at some kind of vague ethnic accent*: “Um that’s actually code switching? Minorities have to do that on the fly to keep from being lynched?”

@LandsharkRides I always liked "World Outside Your Window", I think on her first album.

@Covenant_watch Wasn't it a lute (oud)? And then Ibn Umar asks him (sarcastically), "Is that some kind of Syrian measure (mizan, not mizmar)?", to which he replies, "Yes, for measuring the mind."

@0x49fa98 don't worry, they'll partake in your joy whether they like it or not

@usutav I found Schuon's essay "The Human Margin" very helpful in this regard

I could list all the things that feel wrong to me personally about Christianity and Islam, then Western Christianity and Eastern Christianity, and finally Catholicism and Lutheranism; but all this would result in would be angry offended people from every imaginable direction