Overs Punter

I'm going to start documenting over 2.5 goals selections based on a system written to identify perceived value. Selections will be added per day, categorised as naps and value. Naps have perceived odds <= 1.50 and actual odds >= 1.50. Value <= 1.80 and >= 2.00. Data from @12Xpert

@___1875___ @carl0496 @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog If it helps, my girlfriend often tells me she thinks I'm autistic. Primarily because of how literally I take things that I'm told. This probably fits in with that suggestion. Don't think it makes me wrong though

@SkyBet how can you not pay out on Vardy 2+ shots on target with this clean shot at goal? Even ur other app says it’s a SAVE so obviously a shot on target.

@carl0496 @___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog FWIW, Wonga weren't wrong for providing high interest loans. They were wrong for not doing proper affordability checks. And I say that as someone who's had compensation from them for their wrongdoing

@OversPunter @___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog This bloke probably loves Wonga loans, their 250% APR was fine because its in black and white, large corporations shouldn't have moral obligations providing they put something in size 6 font and blatantly cheat

@paulo70249036 @poshboy7 @J7504279 @___1875___ @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Why would I want punters to lose? I am one. I just don't see the point in giving Sky shit for playing by the rules.

@carl0496 @___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog If I'm being 100% completely honest with you. I wanted it to count, obviously. I checked my bet and got excited when I saw it was suspended. But I honestly felt I'd be lucky for it to pay out because I felt it was a miskicked cross. If Opta agree then it'll never change

@OversPunter @___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Because its the right thing , arguing that its in black and white is a corporate legal stand point, well done you're right so we should all shut up and let sky take literally thousands from us because of a mistake of their 3rd party partner that they could easily over rule

@carl0496 @___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Personally, I find it easier to live my life not getting annoyed at people when they've done nothing wrong. I'm trying to share that view with others in the hope they might stop being so annoyed too

@OversPunter @___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Just stop defending sky and leave it then, you've been replying to folk since 15:00 making sure you tell them it's tough shit...why?, you are sound with being ripped off that's OK, but back off people who clearly in their thousands feel cheated

@carl0496 @___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Why is it so important for people to moan at Sky for doing exactly as they advertise they will?

@OversPunter @___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Good for Opta, why is it so important for you to spend half your Sunday telling us all Opta are right, you're poking angry customers for no reason

@carl0496 @___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Yes, they could pay out anyway, as an act of good will. But like I said, they gave me good will last night. Someone said they did with the boxing last week. What's their incentive to do it every single time? That would be terrible business

@carl0496 @___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog It's not a technicality. It's not a loophole. It's black and white. The bet included 2 shots on target for Vardy. The referenced stats reported 1. Telling Sky they're wrong not to pay you out when, according to their stats, the bet hasn't won, is just complete nonsense.

@carl0496 @___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog But Opta would argue that it wasn't a mistake and it was in line with their definition of what a shot on target is. I get that you don't like that. I don't either. But the decision has been made.

@___1875___ @OversPunter @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog He labels himself as a betting man, I put a fiver on and it's only 35 quid, however it's principal, this wasn't a daft decision that screwed people over? It was a clear mistake, and yeah I lose a fiver but collectively Sky have made 10's of thousands as it was a featured bet

@carl0496 @___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Where have I said anyone is wrong to be annoyed? I'm annoyed! I'm jusy not blaming Sky or moaning about it

@OversPunter @___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog So Sky should put its customers first, to suggest we are all wrong to be annoyed or expect a pay out is absolutely bollocks

@___1875___ @doinkmcmahon @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog This is exactly where my issue is. They've honoured their bet and the rules they advertise that they play by. There's nothing underhand whatsoever about what Sky have done. Suggesting otherwise is just sour grapes. Question Opta, absolutely, but shouts of thieves & fraud are daft

@carl0496 @___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog I've never suggested they can't. I've even referenced an example from last night when they paid me out when they didn't have to. My point is purely that people demanding that they have to are wrong.

@OversPunter @___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Nobody is denying Sky are just following Opta, however we all expect companies to act in good faith, regardless of Opta being their benchmark its clear to sky and punters its a wrong decision so should reverse their decision, to suggest Sky can't reverse is utter nonsense

@doinkmcmahon @poshboy7 @___1875___ @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog I'd get more sense back if I was.

@OversPunter @poshboy7 @___1875___ @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Christ knows. Probably.

@poshboy7 @J7504279 @___1875___ @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog So I can only advise you who provides the stats if I know their contact details? Alright mate.

@OversPunter @J7504279 @___1875___ @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Then maybe, if you don’t have all the answers, you shouldn’t comment

@doinkmcmahon @poshboy7 @___1875___ @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Well I'm not slavering to myself, am I?

@OversPunter @poshboy7 @___1875___ @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog You still on here slavering? Give it a rest.

@poshboy7 @___1875___ @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Neither.

@OversPunter @___1875___ @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Are you opta in disguise or just hoping skybet will give you a free bet

@poshboy7 @J7504279 @___1875___ @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Ok pal. I advised that you contact them instead of Sky if you have a query, as it's them who provide the stats. I never said I had their contact details. I then merely asked what you were hoping for by contacting them and suggested that I felt it would be in vain.

@OversPunter @J7504279 @___1875___ @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Ok. I’ll repeat myself. Why say contact them then ignore what I asked. Then tell me what I should and shouldn’t do

@___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog SkyBet's rules absolve them of responsibility. It's really that simple. You agree to them when you place the bet. If you don't like it then don't place the bet. If you place the bet then feel free to moan afterwards but it's not guaranteed to get you anywhere

@___1875___ @poshboy7 @J7504279 @ScottPearson10 @DaveMerchantCBC @ChrisBeddell @roblafferty8112 @SkyBet @BBCWatchdog Morally, maybe. Particularly given Sky's own commentary called it a SOT. But legally/contractually, people claiming that they have to/should pay out are well wide of the mark. They absolutely don't. If they want to do it as a gesture that's entirely up to them