@Kaganaza @Aleph_VEVO hitcircles disappear almost instantly when pressed, unlike normally where they fade out
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Patoke
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Patoke
@Patokereal
reverse engineer | anticheat/cheat enthusiast | discord: gsds
Katılım Ocak 2018
27 Takip Edilen10 Takipçiler
@tom_nuke1 pasted hack figures out panorama ui in the year 2026 (4 years late)
gg
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@savemesomeday @kz0456 @Aleph_VEVO i called u incompentent (a skid), because ur first thought towards anticheat discussion is "oh but i can make a cheat!", completely missing the point of the conversation
if u want to take this more seriously and discuss this more in depth, my contact info is in my bio
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@Patokereal @kz0456 @Aleph_VEVO basically you tell me to lower my ego and not call you mean words suggesting im incompetent because i do so while doing the same thing
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only took a bit more than a week for a new possible cheater scandal
thanks goodness there's a community willing to investigate because our poor little anticheat system can't do more other than shit itself 🥺🥺🥺
aleph@Aleph_VEVO
he couldve gotten away with it but ended up folding, who knows what could've happened if no attention was brought into this?? yet another case of our glorious anticheat working as intended
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@savemesomeday @kz0456 @Aleph_VEVO 1. can u elaborate? how am i trying to gain a moral superiority? how was i being a hypocrite? ur just dropping words for the sake of it
2. github.com/Patoke, the project will most likely be private in the meanwhile, i have some interesting ideas :)
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@Patokereal @kz0456 @Aleph_VEVO 1) ur obsessed with gaining moral superiority over insignificant words in an argument + ur a hypocrite
2) drop ur github, ill follow ur work on the UM AC since ive thought about making one for osu myself
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@savemesomeday @kz0456 @Aleph_VEVO the fuck u mad at me for LOL
calling me a retard just because i called u a skid is a huge escalation which doesn't make my statement less true
though good idea! i'll be writing a UM POC anticheat for C# based games, sounds like a cool project!
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@Patokereal @kz0456 @Aleph_VEVO Then go do it retard tf u talking to me for, make a driver + service, sign them and ship a loader as part of a tournament client package. Extend lazer with whatever checks you want to implement. Lmk when the PoC is up, I’ll help market it with the community.
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@savemesomeday @kz0456 @Aleph_VEVO if i can make cheat development harder for a single update (and expose a lot of ppl in the process due to their cheats not working in this time period), i would definitely take this opportunity lol, i think u have never worked with anticheats b4 and have only ever skidded cheats
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@Patokereal @kz0456 @Aleph_VEVO Whatever the fuck your “community volunteering efforts” are going to make won’t even survive a single windows update and will only draw more attention from competent cheat developers, raising the stakes for no real value gained
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@savemesomeday @kz0456 @Aleph_VEVO SCP secret lab, old Fivem's adhesive implementation, and a couple of other games have their own, decent usermode anticheat implementations without paying a team to do this
also, the point is being able to make cheats less precise, not stop cheating? why are u still on that point
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@Patokereal @kz0456 @Aleph_VEVO Bro send me any indie game you think has a good AC, Ill make a poc cheat for it in one day. If Riot cant solve anticheat with a rootkit and THE best devs in the industry idk how you think open source osu community volunteers can
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If anyone of u r around TF2 stuff, do anyone of you know why -dxlevel 8 will not let u Load into the map even if u wanna check if it works on localhost server? Cus when i put -dxlevel 8 it just wont lemme Load into the map
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@kz0456 @savemesomeday @Aleph_VEVO i never said anything about a community anticheat (or OSS for that matter)
just saying, the anticheat **could** be better and lots of better anticheating choices could be made to make cheating less feasible (like forcing cheats to be less accurate, like i mentioned before)
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@savemesomeday @Patokereal @Aleph_VEVO also what in the brain damage making a community made anticheat? i'm sorry but if all of those people aren't getting paid good and nda'd that shit is doomed (and even then stuff will get shared outside of it)
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@savemesomeday @kz0456 @Aleph_VEVO there's already existing, open source solutions for this which could be iterated upon, there's always volunteers that would like to contribute into anticheat (me, for example), ur hyperfixated on payment and AC dev being harder for some reason, lots of indie games have good acs
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@Patokereal @kz0456 @Aleph_VEVO AC dev is way harder, more niche and has a lot more churn than gamedev, being a continuous battle. You cant make a worthwhile AC, especially a kernel one off community contribution. Osu has by estimate 3 paid developers, I doubt it can afford 3 more even at same salary (unlikely)
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@savemesomeday @kz0456 @Aleph_VEVO u could also say this about game developers and software engineers who work in osu, how come osu as a donation only game can exist at such a scale?
ur making no sense, volunteers exist, ur desperately trying to be right
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@Patokereal @kz0456 @Aleph_VEVO basically Your argument falters when you consider the fact that a competent product security team costs more in salary alone than osu makes in a year
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@HiTechLoLife1 @loohhooo recomp, not decomp
decomp implies the original source code is remade via reverse engineering and a completely new binary is made
recomp implies the original binary just gets translated into another architecture (then gets fixed up with a mod loader to actually run in most cases)
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@loohhooo Technically, the best use for AI is detecting cancer in individuals far before doctors do.
As for the actual coding thing, one has to worry about whether or not the AI code that was generated complies with the whole clean room thing these decompilations need, no?
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recomp is like the BEST use case for AI because it is repetitive and can be automated. the AI doomers are trying to cancel this person while not knowing what they're talking about - not all AI is bad, not all AI is generative, and not all AI is trained the same way.
also this game is 18 years old. who cares. as long as it works identically to the source and isn't total spaghetti code I'd say that's a good thing
patchzy@patchzyy
Announcing Mario Kart Wiicompiled! The first static recompilation of a Wii game: Mario Kart Wii, rebuilt for PC. Releasing in beta this August, with online play and optional Retro Rewind support, bringing over 200 tracks! Here’s your first look:
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Soon I will get my hands on DMA cheats.
I’ve been trying to get access to it for over 2 years and finally have some progress.
The myth of FACEIT Anti-Cheat being a good one will soon be busted.
Probably gonna be one of the most controversial projects I’ve ever made, but community needs to know the truth.
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@OfficialMTM101 @Soda_Bobinski point is, it's not a silver bullet, it cannot be forced to stop certain types of exploiting and it could make the player experience awful if games start using it indiscriminately, for roblox specifically, it's a feature that only helps in a very small amount of games
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@OfficialMTM101 @Soda_Bobinski i was never opposed to it being an option, u might've misunderstood what i meant
server authority is good if not forced, calling out "cheaters" for not liking its design is just wrong
server authority also introduces a handful of problems to users themselves
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bait made by a salty exploiter, server authority's great and has been the standard for multiplayer games for a while now
Twekky@EgirlTwekky
Ladies and gentlemen, Server Authority!! - Input delays - Increased server ping - Broken Physics - Whatever tf this is Roblox's answer to Exploiting is to ship an unfinished Anticheat and encourage naive devs to use it. This is why Anticheat should be in the hands of game devs.
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@OfficialMTM101 @Soda_Bobinski client desync exists, it's pretty annoying but there's nothing u can do about it
for a platform like roblox, this is inherent to how the servers are structured, server authority wouldn't stop noclip/flying completely, and rolling out changes that stop these would be hell
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@Patokereal @Soda_Bobinski I mean technically most games would benefit from it due to it preventing many typical noclip/fly exploits that affect the majority of games on the platform, but I don't understand this focus on it being forced when it seems like that was never gonna be the case
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@OfficialMTM101 @Soda_Bobinski ur also forgetting the fact that people who make roblox games, most likely don't really want to understand networking
therefore, learning proper game networking adds more stuff to learn to actually publish a decent game in roblox, can u spot the issue now?
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@OfficialMTM101 @Soda_Bobinski correct, not forced means good! forced means bad :(
for a game like roblox, only certain games will actually benefit from server authority, and even then, lots of games function without a problem without server authority!
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@OfficialMTM101 @Soda_Bobinski if u don't do this, stuff like animations, triggers, movement and other stuff WILL lag behind, making the user experience miserable
in a game like roblox where anyone can make any game they want, forced server authority is doom for hobbyist projects
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@OfficialMTM101 @Soda_Bobinski sorry but u don't seem to understand the concept of latency
for proper server authority, the simulation has to be exactly the same between the client and server, meaning, u have to somehow make it so the client can simulate everything exactly the same way the server does!
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