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@Paulimig

Former sportswriter and reporter with FOX Sports. Usually tweeting about sports, TV shows, movies, pro wrestling, or arcade-style gaming.

Wisconsin Katılım Şubat 2009
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@derrick2535 @KenIngalls I won’t speak for Ken, but I’d be hard-pressed to consider the one team that hasn’t won the division in that time frame as the most successful among them. “Success” is subjective to some degree, I suppose, but the team’s goals are to win the division and win the Super Bowl. So 🤷‍♂️
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Derrick@derrick2535·
@Paulimig @KenIngalls Ken is the one comparing the 4 NFC north teams to each other, and I’d say the packers have clearly been the most successful of all 4 of those during the time period he’s referencing.
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Every team in the NFC North has won the division since the Packers did. Gutekunst & LaFleur will either get extended or fired this offseason (contracts expire following 2026 season; Policy won’t have lame-duck GM / coach). These past 4 years have been enough to offer EXTENSIONS?
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@KyleBroughton4 @BartWinklerShow I agree with that re: Tomlin. He’d get hired by another team, but that doesn’t mean the Steelers shouldn’t have moved on years ago. LaFleur isn’t in that camp yet. But Packers wasted time not getting rid of McCarthy soon enough. Finding that line with MLF will be critical.
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Kyle Broughton@KyleBroughton4·
@Paulimig @BartWinklerShow Moving on from Tomlin makes way more sense than MLF. Steelers have missed the playoffs twice (maybe 3 times since 2019) and haven’t won a playoff game since 2017. Packers have been in the playoffs every year but one since MLF was hired and have 2 NFCCG appearances.
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@KyleBroughton4 @BartWinklerShow McDermott is definitely on the hot seat if Buffalo has a bad playoff showing. As to your answer about 3-5 more years for LaFleur, ok, but that is a VERY patient approach in my book. If you were a Steelers fan, when (if ever) in the past 10 years would you have wanted Tomlin gone?
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Kyle Broughton@KyleBroughton4·
@Paulimig @BartWinklerShow 3-5 based more on playoff continuity than SB appearances. It’s not like people are banging down doors to fire Shanahan & McDermott because they can’t win the big one. Teams just have certain years where things fall their way, haven’t had ours yet. Give yourself a chance for a run
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@derrick2535 @KenIngalls Derrick, respectfully, I’m confused by the idea that you and some Packers fans have that not coming in 4th is an accomplishment. Avoiding last place in the division and being the 7th seed in 3 consecutive years is a success? To each their own, but that doesn’t make sense to me.
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Derrick@derrick2535·
@KenIngalls @Paulimig Respectfully Ken, this isn’t a good take by you. All those other teams have also come in 4th in the division since the packers last won it, while the packers continued to make the playoffs. You have a large audience so fanning the flames like this isn’t a good look.
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@acnelson93 I’m not being snarky, just genuinely asking: based on your comment then, are you pinning that on Love? On Gutekunst for drafting Love? On LaFleur for not doing enough with Love as his QB? All of the above?
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@KyleBroughton4 @BartWinklerShow I appreciate your thoughtful comments. My opinion would be extend Gutekunst, not LaFleur. The question I don’t think you answered, though: if you would extend MLF, then how many more years of not winning the division or making the SB before you’d move on at head coach?
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Kyle Broughton@KyleBroughton4·
@Paulimig @BartWinklerShow Do I want to win a SB every year? Of course. Can I also acknowledge every non-SB year isn’t a completely failure? Also yes. Who is to say the next hires are like how Gute and MLF started? For all we know, the hires could also be two absolute failures like the NYJ & NYG have been.
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@kyle_valente For what it’s worth, personally, I would extend Gutekunst. He’s been far from perfect, but I’m generally aligned with the approach. However, I would not extend LaFleur, and thus, given the lame-duck nature of 2026, that means a new head coach next season.
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@KyleBroughton4 @BartWinklerShow We’ll have to agree to disagree that everything was great until 2 weeks ago. But ok, let’s play it out that LaFleur and Gutekunst both get extensions. My next question then is, how many more years of not winning the NFC North or making a Super Bowl before you’d want to move on?
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Kyle Broughton@KyleBroughton4·
@Paulimig @BartWinklerShow This regime led the transition from 12 to 10 & built far from a bottom 10 team in the past 2 years since Rodgers left. MLF annually is way closer to being a top5 coach than bottom5. Gute went big game hunting & got a top 3 defensive player, everything was great until 2 weeks ago.
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@Rube008 Depends if playoff appearances and regular season wins is the main barometer of success. If that’s what success is for some people, that’s fine with me. I just don’t agree. In those 15 years you mention, Packers have made zero Super Bowl appearances.
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OriginalwuhanBat@Rube008·
@Paulimig The pure entitlement of Packer fans is mind blowing. Name a team, not called the Patriots or KC , that’s had the amount of winning success as GB the last 15 years. Even NE hasn’t been to the playoffs as many times as GB since 2010.
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Packers #1 Fan@GBPack1980·
@Paulimig I am 100% ok with the playoff game being the deciding factor. If Lafleur can game plan and beat the Bears in Soldier Field he can keep his job.
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@KyleBroughton4 @BartWinklerShow Yes, you don’t want to become those horribly managed teams you mentioned. But I’ll ask my same question… two choices this offseason: extend or fire. Contracts expire end of 2026 season; Policy won’t have a lame-duck GM or coach. Have they done enough to warrant being extended?
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Kyle Broughton@KyleBroughton4·
@BartWinklerShow @Paulimig I’d much rather be where we’ve been the past 30 years than what the organization was like before Favre or how other organizations like the Browns, Raiders, Jets are ran and being stuck in perpetuity.
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@KristopherLG @KenIngalls Two choices this offseason with LaFleur and Gutekunst: extend or fire. As noted, their contacts expire at the end of the 2026 season and Policy has stated he doesn’t want a lame-duck GM or coach. So this offseason is decision time. Have they done enough to warrant being extended?
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K&Nc Lovegrove@KristopherLG·
@KenIngalls @Paulimig Have any of those teams made the playoffs the past three years, fuck off with the fire ML narrative
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@joesr_22 @KenIngalls My advice is not to be afraid of change. Maintaining the status quo often has a ceiling in terms of achieving meaningful results.
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Joe@joesr_22·
@KenIngalls @Paulimig Is there obvious improvement available in the marketplace to take the organization to the next level? That’s really the question.
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