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@WZGHELLFIRE @Pdl4yl @wannabejake9 Pat had over 1000 passing yards almost 70% passing completion, 6-1 TD-Int ratio and we talking about getting carried? His best WRs were Rice MVS Juju Toney Hardman and Moore with Pacheco running the ball. Yes he had Kelce but no way that is being carried
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We lapped Peyton years ago bruh what are we doing here


Brett Kollmann@BrettKollmann
I don't think Mahomes has passed Peyton Manning yet in terms of overall career. Could argue he hasn't passed Rodgers yet either. But I do want to submit a question to the class - what is the threshold Patrick has to hit to become the unquestioned #2 all time?
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@ryanknowsports @HitStickHicks chiefs rams does sound pretty nice icl
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@Pybrik @Barkley_Tap @Lulu_cowboys The legacy is 20 years long in 8 years if that makes sense. Time played is irrelevant when it comes to 3 SBs and 2 MVPs. Only 4 QBs in history with multiple MVPs and SBs: Brady, Montana, Mahomes, Manning. They all four stay
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@Barkley_Tap @Lulu_cowboys Mahomes, his legacy is not yet long enough give him another 10 years then he belongs
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@youdkballfr @kjonesy1587 The original fucking point is that he elevated them to the point where they are in #1 pick contention without him. You were being disingenuous when saying he “only elevated them from 3 to 6 wins.” They were 6-7 with Pat. An NFL season has 17 games, not 13.
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@youdkballfr @kjonesy1587 Broncos potentially a win seeing how bad they played against the 3rd string QB
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@youdkballfr @kjonesy1587 They only had 6 wins at that point bc they had played 13 games at that point. Didn’t claim there was a “guarantee.” They were driving prior to his injury and looked set up to at least tie the game with less than a minute to go. Titans and Raiders = 2 free wins.
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@JAYCH3FED But Mahomes has been carried by the defense his whole career! How could this be?
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@youdkballfr @kjonesy1587 Yes, in an ongoing game when they were driving down the field to win
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@JAYCH3FED Fans will forget if you stink it up in the early rounds. Hardly anybody remembers Brady getting dominated by the Ravens and Broncos, and I’ve seen nobody talk about Montana getting bent in half by the Giants and Vikings.
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@youdkballfr @kjonesy1587 Before Pat got hurt they were 6-7. They were most likely going to finish with 8 or 9 wins had he stayed healthy and finished. 9-8 vs 3-14 is a big impact for one player
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@Pdl4yl @kjonesy1587 So in 2025 they were elevated to win 6 games instead of 3? lol.
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@TheBustaB @LanceTHESPOKEN And I’m sure you guys have a truckload of excuses prepared for Buffalo’s annual divisional exit, correct?
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@youdkballfr @kjonesy1587 Elevated them in the sense that they win two or three games without him at QB
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@kjonesy1587 Key was “right now”
Mahomes didn’t elevate the terrible team that was last year’s chiefs.
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@DMacWake316 😂😂😂 all 4 games were rematches.
Last 3 the bills won the first game.
“When it matters most”
Or he just evens out the series every year. And Chiefs have a better coaching staff.
Good teams are hard to beat twice and Bills coaching staff got outcoached every rematch
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Well in their playoff head to heads
Patrick Mahomes has thrown for more yards, had a higher completion percentage, less INTs, less sacks taken, higher passer rating, better QBR, higher EPA/play
So yes when it matters most Patrick Mahomes beats Josh Allen in the QB stats and the Scoreboard.
Aaron Quinn@AaronQuinn716
@MattVerderame Only if you have the illogical premise that wins are a quarterback stat.
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@WZGHELLFIRE @wannabejake9 Please enlighten us on how Pat was “carried” in his SB runs
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@wannabejake9 “Lapped Peyton” but yall both got carried in SB runs which disqualifies you from anywhere near the top 3 in QB talks. Crazy shit.
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@esgusrdo @RasheeTouchdown @hbtCHIEFS What puts Mahomes over Manning for me is the playoff success. Even the years Manning won, he was somewhat pedestrian. Especially the Broncos SB over the Panthers
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@RasheeTouchdown @hbtCHIEFS you don’t realize how good peyton was lol
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@hbtCHIEFS The lowest he can be is 3. There’s no real debate other than whether he’s 2 or 3 right now.
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