Peter Jetten

@randomrock69 @cuntycakes123 Except sports books should be able to make a higher profit margin since they can take a position instead of just collecting rake only like polymarket. Matchbook has been around forever offering the same product for sports, polymarket has good legal timing though.

@cuntycakes123 It’s just a sports book

I see so many posts on how profitable Polymarket is, and missing something? Liquidity seems super low hard to do anything with size. The top active accounts net lifetime profits wouldn’t crack the top 10 of the weekly cex leaderboards. The best roi bets seem to just tie up capital for no reason. I.e. betting at 90%+ over a long timeframe just seems like horrible capital allocation.

@cuntycakes123 @VanessaKade It would be a worthwhile data point if you’re creating a betting market or whatever but I’m not as confident there would be agreement and women seem likely to be underestimated

@PeterJetten @VanessaKade I don’t think it’s very hard if you took a poll of the players in the fields they would come to the same conclusions as who were winning and losing for the most part

If you're not playing the same games the top 100 are playing, it's going to be incredibly hard to be in the top 100. I can count on one hand the number of women who either have access to consistent high stakes backing or are independently wealthy enough to safely compete at the top. Not only are we considered less appealing horses due to outdated, yet accepted, attitudes like this (Ben, you do women no favors recirculating the idea that we are fundamentally less capable), but we also contend with a number of other factors that make attaining backing more difficult - often there are extra unsavory strings or conditions that come with backing as a female that are going to eliminate a lot of opportunities. I had an extremely generous deal while at ACR (which I still appreciate) but didn't like the moral concessions expected, enough to give up a situation that could make or break a high stakes career for me. (And while I knew what I was giving up, I've definitely suffered for it.) My sense is actually it's probably EASIER for women to get backing for low / mid stakes for a lot of the same reasons, but substantially more difficult to get persistent high stakes backing. In addition, obtaining backing is in itself a game that we're socially conditioned against: study after study has shown that women tend to underestimate their skill level, while men tend to overestimate their ability, and for the purpose of pitching your skill to someone as an investment, overconfidence is an asset. Few (no?) women are inside the highest level cliques where groups help each other mutually improve. And these are only a few of the barriers at the top. There's not a lot we can do about it so most of us just hustle after it anyway. The lowest stakes have pretty consistent harassment that is causing potentially skilled players to turn away before having a chance to discover a real interest. We've covered this to death the last 5 years, and I think just being on the casinos' radar has resulted in significant improvement. There are a bunch of studies that show that women and men are equally skilled in STEM subjects and suggest and the divide occurs as a result of social conditioning - not biological factors. A really good book that goes over a lot of human studies through the lens of gender is "Inferior" and I recommend this read to dispel a lot of misconceptions and show how a lot of the generally accepted "knowledge" on gender and intelligence / interests is incorrect - often studied in a way that inherently skews the results. As an author of a similar book, I think you should take @obrientweet up on her offer to discuss this topic in person. As things stand, all any of us can do is speculate because the playing field is so uneven at the top that we can't prove anything definitively one way or another. An interesting experiment would be to find a bored billionaire and 5-10 women with the right attributes and inclination - and set them up with a top level coaching group and 5 years of high stakes funding and see what happens. (If one happens to read this, I volunteer to participate, let's get @padspoker to coach :). Still wouldn't be enough data to prove anything definitively but I think we might see some interesting results.

@BigHuni @cuntycakes123 @VanessaKade Yeah and it’s even harder to evaluate edges at lower and medium stakes in large field tournaments. This will all have a ripple effect and influence who moves up to high stakes

@cuntycakes123 @PeterJetten @VanessaKade Hard to say if that’s accurate, seems like most high roller guys think I’m losing in the field

@helloitslynne @cuntycakes123 @VanessaKade Both but the higher variance in tournaments makes it even more important

@PeterJetten @cuntycakes123 @VanessaKade Are you referring to just tournaments or does this also include high stakes cash?

@cuntycakes123 @VanessaKade It’s hard to figure out who would actually be winning at high stakes tho. You can’t just look at their results. You have to watch them play hands. A backer is less likely to take notice of a competent woman bc of networking effects and poker basically being all men

@VanessaKade Well they aren’t getting backed for the highest stakes because they aren’t winning not because they are women.

@Charlie_Carrel @bencb789 You should link that small study from 100 years ago that you referenced and are extrapolating out to 8 billion ppl. The one that says men are more likely to be genius/dumb And then you should link the thousands of studies that have come after it that show zero evidence of that

It's time for a tough one with poker Twitter. Featuring @bencb789's perspective on men and women in poker.

@MikeMcDonald89 @bencb789 He categorized 4 billion people on the planet as being more competitive than the other 4 billion. It's a pretty half baked take

I saw this @bencb789 hatred- not even a fan of the guy. But no one actually thinks his takes are bold or wrong are they? Obviously people yelling at him are more wrong? Anyway I guess my turn to get yelled at

It's basically impossible to even talk about women's poker. If I want to call Italians trash at poker everyone will be like "lol ya true" even if there are some great Italian poker players, or if culturally Italians didn't have the same opportunities to succeed that Germans did

@Charlie_Carrel @bencb789 You’re going to be wrong anytime you generalize groups of people. There’s nothing inherent to men that makes them better at poker

@bencb789 You're right, Ben. And for the record, if I listed the most intelligent people I've ever met, more would be women than men. But the idea that men don't have advantages over women, on average, in poker, is wrong.

I really don't care. I can take the heat. I will share my opinion even if it upsets people because they cannot handle reality. I know very well what is going on here. Someone sees a controversial topic and takes the opportunity to farm engagement with zero logic, twisting things around, and lying to make me look bad so they can get support from "the other side." However, I love to see how many from our community agree on this topic and try to argue with reasoning instead of just throwing around buzz terms (there are exceptions, of course). If we can't even have a debate on why we have more men being successful at poker (or chess, or esports, or any similar "thinking sport"), we are doomed. If, the moment someone shares an opinion you don't agree with (even if you heavily disagree), you call it racist, right-wing extremist, or misogynistic, we are heading in the wrong direction. I mean, I kind of predicted what was going to happen. So, @BlaiseBourgeois, where exactly have I said "Men Brain better"? Do you feel better purposefully lying to make me look worse? Classic drama engagement farming. If you would really care, you would have reached out. "Ben lets talk about, lets jump on a Podcast, I think you are wrong, I want to make a change, I want to contribute to a better place for women". (or anything like that). You could prove how much you care, to take action. Your retweet will CHANGE ZERO of the things you address. So do you really care? No you don't, because all you want is a bit of attention at the cost of someone else, you know very well that you lack logic and knowledge. What are these entry barriers for live poker for women? I am fully aware that some men mistreat women, and this needs to change, but what does my opinion have to do with that? Men also experience mistreatment, are insulted, and victims of racism. But we care less. Am I excusing this? No! But men are LESS emotional than women. And this is an advantage in poker. Also, we can defend ourselves better, verbally and physically (hello, biology). That's why I also want to see harsher punishment for men who show any kind of harassment towards women. Again, this is a fact. This is why men have an advantage. And that was the question: "Why do men have an advantage?" Some of these advantages are simply nature, and some of them are indeed barriers that need to change, but still, men have a lot of advantages in their competitive nature. Also, what does "normalized" mean? In the West, we live in very liberal times where you can do whatever you want. Even if that's the case, let's assume you are right and there are really so many entry barriers that women cannot participate in poker tournaments on a large scale. Then we should see numerous top female online players, right? Oh, wait... But I guess we will find other areas where it is obvious that my take is off, and women compete at the same level as men. What about chess? What about esports? Do we find teams and players playing at the same level even though we have 40-50% female gamers these days in certain titles? But I guess it is not normalized there either? Is harassment happening in chess too? Is this the main reason for you? By the way, men are victims of insults and racism in gaming too. Again, we can suck it up better. But let me make this clear: this is not against women. This is simply stating facts, reading statistics, and then trying to explain them. And no, harassment alone is not the main reason. If that hurts you, well, deal with it. I am addressing biological differences. Men are more competitive (on average). Yes, if a woman develops the competitive drive of a man, she can compete very well. We have seen many great female poker players competing at the same level as men do, but this is simply not the norm. Nowhere have I said "Women can not compete". I said, Men have a competitive advantage. But of course if sounds better the other way around for some people to, again, make someone else look purposefully bad. That is called biology. I am not buying into this 2024 woke agenda that we are the same. We are different, and that's good. That is wonderful. Men have strengths, Men have weaknesses. Women have strengths, Women have weaknesses. Don't you think a man has it easier to "grind in loneliness," work his ass off, and sacrifice some of the fun stuff for a couple of months to become really good at something? This is what men often do when they start competing at something. They get more "obsessed" And I do believe (and science has proven this over and over again) that more women will struggle with these extreme levels of competing and sacrificing a lot of things to reach that one goal. Also, I find it very concerning how especially women are throwing around terms like sexist, racist, and misogynist. You are trivializing these terms for people who are real victims. You are inflating their use, making it harder for people to speak up and address actual issues. This is what is happening in 2024: the moment you don't like an opinion, you call it racist, sexist, or misogynistic without even knowing what these terms mean. This is called having a debate with different opinions. But this is the fault of the countless white knights, simps, and feminists who use these terms left and right to gain attention, jump on trends, feed their narcissistic personalities, and seek approval to make themselves feel better. All at the cost of real victims who have it harder to speak up and bring attention to real problems. And by the way, to all these people insulting me. I have probably done more for women in Esports/Gaming than all of you together. And I enjoyed it. I know that women can compete at high levels, but simply not to a scale as men. Period. Instead of you, I just don't talk, I take action. All your little hate comments don't do shit apart from making you feel better. It divides us further.

@PhilGalfond We went to the rhino in your honour.

I still remember everything I did the night I won my first WSOP bracelet. SO many friends came to support me at the final table, and they were excited to celebrate (party) with me. (I was still young at the time - 25) I gathered my friends & made a plan: "Alright guys, first, thanks so much for being here - it truly means a lot to me. I'm going to go to bed now."

@strassa2 I heard they only signed the heels

Hi— not an expert on wrestling Twitter— is this guy legit? Second question… what price? Asking for a friend

@given2tweet Didn’t realize this was about the pickem and not the survivor, not sure how much they are actually playing for on this last game but you are right it’s much less then 6mm

@given2tweet Oh lol I just re-read your retweet and noticed it was about their other contest. Which as you said has many prizes other then first, oops.

@given2tweet Yes, can’t pick same team twice, the picks are made blind to each other and the deadline was before Saturday games.

@given2tweet Yes but they chop it since they both survived the whole season. Last year was 5 way chop for 6mm. If everyone loses in a given week they all chop as well.

@given2tweet Since they both lasted the whole season they will split the 6mm

@given2tweet It’s winner take all

@m_hawk_1 Probably not this year unfortunately

@PeterJetten HNY Peter. 2023 the year of visiting Australia again?

@BuffaloHanks @jamestmccue They should make the soccer ball very slightly smaller too, and more bouncy

@jamestmccue @PeterJetten Footie? I’m sorry, you’re not allowed to change the name of soccer. You can only change the rules.

In a very heated debate on why professional soccer stinks, but it doesn’t have to stink. 1.) 24x8 goals (scoring seems fun) 2.) Tolerate fighting (same as hockey but using those card things)