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@0R0CHI_ @CentroLeaks If PLA felt boring, I would honestly suggest revisiting its lore. A lot of it clicks only when you connect the Gen 4 dots. Bulbapedia or Lore Keeper Toby’s videos break it down well. Missing that context makes the story seem shallow when it really isn't.

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks Ancestor links and it’s just same haircuts, u want it to have substance but it’s literally what’s lacking in LPA, it’s just winks and small details LPA has a strong ambiance but that’s it, nothing compares to the themes present in ZA, which is not perfect,but not as boring as LPA

It’s time to choose the best

@0R0CHI_ @CentroLeaks Reducing PLA’s ancestor links to "same haircuts" misses the point. They tie into its themes, conflict & payoff especially with Volo & the Sinnoh lore. Z-A themes are fine,but they don't carry same narrative weight. Calling PLA boring ignores how much it builds toward its climax.

@emperor__east @CentroLeaks It might sound harsh, but when valid criticism keeps coming from outside the fanbase and people still defend obvious flaws, it does make the community look unserious. Calling that out isn't silly, it’s pointing out how the reaction looks to everyone else.

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks You don’t think “hell-bent on embarrassing the Pokemon community in front of other fandoms” is a bit silly

@Co88Kev @CentroLeaks That's exactly the point. PLA's story works because of the gen 4 lore and the ancestor connections. It rewards paying attention and knowing the series. Z-A doesn't have that depth, it leans more on surface mechanics and nostalgia, which is why the backlash exists.

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks What did legends Z-A do to you? Lmao, i prefer the mechanics of Z-A, however i loved the Story and vibe of Arceus, and the little nod to the NPC's that are anchestors of people like Cynthia, Mars, Cyrus etc.

@bradboxa @CentroLeaks Flashier doesn't mean higher quality. Arceus delivered lore, themes, structure and payoff. The backlash to Z-A isn't random hate, it's about design and direction. Criticising that isn't attacking people it's judging the game.

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks Legends arceus is so buns compared to za. The quality is so bad; the game looks unfinished. I originally liked legends arceus but once I played za, I realized how low quality arceus is compared to za. Also how are you gonna call people who like za more an embarrassment.

@whitey_38 @CentroLeaks Calling everything an "opinion" doesn't make it immune to criticism. When backlash is widespread, dismissing it instead of reflecting on it is the problem. Pointing that out isn't gatekeeping. It's expecting basic critical thinking, even if the truth stings.

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks Anyone gatekeeping and not letting people have their own opinion is worse

@IsItJustin1 @CentroLeaks Cool. A GIF isn’t a counterpoint. If you've got reasons, say them. Otherwise this adds nothing.

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks I chose Legends ZA.

@TakenStorm27 @CentroLeaks If Legends Arceus felt underwhelming to you, did you even play gen 4? A lot of its story hits because of those connections & lore drop. Saying Z-A is better because it feels relatable or nostalgic is fine, but that’s preference, not depth. That's what people are criticizing.

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks Sounds like your the ome who needs help lol I get that Arceus brought a new type of gameplay and new mechanics. But it felt underwhelming and I wasn't impressed with the story ZA however feels relatable in our Era and my kalos heart came back to life . Plus that OST :0

@0R0CHI_ @CentroLeaks Better character design alone doesn't beat what PLA did with lore. PLA had ancestor links, real world themes, a strong central plot and a payoff with Volo. Z-A's loop looks flashy but gets repetitive fast, and the story doesn't carry it. UI polish doesn't replace substance.

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks Better characters (and charadesign), better story, better gameplay loop, better UI, better fighting systems… only in OST arceus is better

@ProjectLW1500 @CentroLeaks You admit you're not into Pokémon and haven't played the game. That’s fine. But lecturing people who have makes no sense. You jumped in because the criticism sounded harsh. If that bothers you more than bad design, that's on you.

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks You sound terrible. I’m not really into Pokemon and had only played 3 games ever, this being my 3rd. I can’t vote for something I never played. I’m sure it’s great, but that’ll be false if I said it’s “better” without playing it before. You need help fr

@emperor__east @CentroLeaks It doesn’t need to be "serious" for criticism to matter. People pay for these games and care about the franchise. Saying "it’s not that deep" is just a way to avoid admitting there are real problems others can clearly see.

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks It is never that serious lmao

@tooftwap @CentroLeaks I criticised people defending the game despite its flaws, not people for liking it. Calling it a kids game doesn't excuse bad design or public embarrassment. Pokémon has done better before, so scrutiny is earned. Mockery isn't a counterargument.

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks grown ass man telling ppl that you’re an embarrassment and need help if you like his least favorite monster catching simulator for children 😭😭✌️

@legendofshoto @CentroLeaks Calling all criticism "grifter noise" is just another way to avoid engaging with real issues. You can form your own opinion, but pretending widespread consistent criticism has no basis isn't being independent, it's being dismissive. That mindset is how franchises stagnate.

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks some of us have our own opinion and doesnt base it around public scrutiny inflated by grifters online 🤤

@LukeBaxter6337 @CentroLeaks Having an opinion doesn't make it immune to criticism. Opinions can still be poorly reasoned or factually wrong. Saying "it’s my opinion" doesn't excuse bad takes or remove responsibility when those takes contribute to the series declining.

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks Or it’s their opinion 😂

@Echos_of_echo @CentroLeaks Liking something isn’t the issue. Dismissing criticism just because it comes from outside the fandom is. When the same problems keep getting called out, that isn’t noise, it’s feedback. Ignoring it is why the series doesn’t improve.

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks Bro “Online scrutiny” Is bullshit i don’tcare what strangers online say. I like what i like and thats that. You’re opinion matters so little it’s embarrassing lol

@dazpool @CentroLeaks "give it 3 years" only fits reactionary hate. PLA earned praise with varied locations,ride Pokémon,regional variants & evos and ancestor lore. Z-A is a tiny Lumiose with bad visuals,no bike,clunky battles,only 3 XY character returns, lazy mega evo designs. That’s the criticism

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks Give it 3 years and you’ll say Legends ZA was amazing, in the same way you say Legends Arceus is. I can guarantee you hated Legends Arceus when it was released because it’s the ‘cool thing to do’.

@Rod_MDO @CentroLeaks Obviously within the pokemon community it's all sunshine & roses cuz of nostalgia bias like the poketubers are bound to lie about it cuz it's their job but the moment you step out of there & look at reviews of creators from other genres that's when you learn the harsh reality

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks What public scrutiny, all I saw was people praising the game 😭😭

@ThePokeRaf These poketubers desperate for views are literally finding any damn excuse atp to spread the Ash is coming back propaganda which would ruin the entire purpose of him retiring in the first place which was to finally get a good plot that Horizons has successfully delivered

So… is the Pokémon Horizons anime now in the same timeline/universe as Ash Ketchum’s anime? #Anipoke

@QueensMWDT @CentroLeaks I would love a Unova remake of Legends Kyurem too but the Blueberry Academy dlc does make it too recent to be revisited again. But hey leaks say we are revisiting Galar in next Legends game so who knows at this point. Then we have gen 1-4 explored in a single game then gen 11

@PhantomX1713 @CentroLeaks Blueberry academy only took place in Unova we need remakes or a legends game in that region

Originally Pokémon Legends 2 was going to be set in Johto, they decided to change it to Kalos later on.