Coach talking to players:
“This is a 10-min countdown game. Your job is to win the game before the time is up. To win, you must score three times without your opponents getting a score.”
Give me some reasons why a coach run this game.
@PlayerGaelic Is this a bad thing Philip?? Look at the effect professional rugby has had on the club game. We're moving toward that in Gaa. Leitrim couldn't field.....Waterford, kilkenny, carlow, fermanagh etc further behind the top end juggernauts. Gimme club action everyday of the week.
This is not a pathway.
These are three different experiences.
Two of them are not accessible to most players.
Club
Development Squad
County Competition
@PharmacySlane Are you saying that the coaching at the next level (development squad) is guaranteed next level too?
Are many of the best coaches not usually snapped up by senior club managers?
In the downtime between now and the New Year, let’s discuss some contentious issues.
1. It’s not a pathway if this player and 95% of his friends can’t access the next level.
2. For the 5% who do, there’s no guarantee that the coaching will be next level too.
@PlayerGaelic No im talking about intercounty senior ref top top coaches. Development squads are still volunteer in majority of counties but most "managed" by some one who knows what they're at. The coaches that go to senior clubs probably not the coaches needed at Development level anyway?
@PlayerGaelic I think nowadays in men's football coaching let's have improved and intercounty coaches are excellent in general. Ladies football different tbh. Very poor quality coaching at intercounty level outside top 10 teams.
@PlayerGaelic Coaching is about quality folks. More can be achieved in 15 mins on the training pitch when the players "get it" than the hours of mistaken messages/ lack of clarity. We've all experienced the moment when it clicks.....pure magic for a coach.
Educators are increasingly impressed by volume. They have come to believe scare stories about not wasting a minute.
Quantity, quantity, quantity.
The world of coaching is full of educators, active and retired. Don’t allow us to impress others with volume.
1. A workshop led by successful senior county managers and coaches.
2. A workshop led by managers and coaches who have no county pedigree but a wealth of experience working with underage and youth players at club level.
If both were run at the same time, which would you attend?
Most counties don’t win competitions because they simply don’t have the players. It doesn’t matter what else they have in place. Player quality and plenty of it tops everything.
Do you agree?
Result: Team A 1–15 (18) — Team B 1–12 (15)
Possession: Team A 46% • Team B 54%
Shots: Team A 27 (66% accuracy) • Team B 23 (61% accuracy)
Turnovers Won: A 14 • B 18
Own Kickout Win Rate: A 55% • B 62%
What would catch your eye?
Which parts are irrelevant?
What needs work?
@PlayerGaelic Id agree with this. Two different roles. Both jobs challenging in different ways. A good manage should also be able to coach to a decent level and a good coach must manage sessions efv. The coach/manager dynamic is probably the key relationship in making it work.
There are people in clubs who would like to manage rather than coach. Should we have a suite of courses which lead to management qualifications?
After all, managing and coaching are two very different roles. Some describe the former as the more challenging.
Thoughts?
“Right lads, we’re not pressing enough and they’re getting through gaps. We need to close those gaps in the second half and press them higher. Attack their kickouts but don’t get caught with a long ball over your heads.”
Too much or too vague……or both?
@PlayerGaelic I think the events are limited in value. You can pick up on how the top coaches coach (theres a great YouTube of Colm Nally taking a club session - excellent rapport, communication, challenge) but after that unless ur coaching a top Snr club (top 4 team) - content irrelevant
Why do we continue to flock to events where county managers and coaches tell us what works for them?
90% of us coach underage club football, light years away from the county stuff.
Your Friday task is:
Convince me that we should continue to attend.
@PlayerGaelic Yeah. More than enough. We talk too much and too long to players pre/HT/in session. There's evidence of this and most pro teams dont do IT! Look at Minute9. Eamon devlin. He did a brilliant online session on in game/session communication for Ulster Gaa.
You watch a 10-min game and notice lots of lateral and backward passes. Players have been missing several opportunities to move the ball forward.
They break, get a drink and gather as a group, ready for feedback.
You have ONE minute to get your message across. Is that enough?
Can you see merit in this coach’s method?
“We have been working on real width in possession and players have seen and discussed the benefits.
Before training tonight, I told them I will not mention it again for the next four sessions. I will only watch how they manage it.”
@PharmacySlane 😂 Those other things are what you will discover as he tries the move:
Does he do enough to draw a defender wide?
How well does he time the cutback?
Can he get open for a pass (whether or not it comes)? There’s no rush to feed him information that he might already have.
‘Let’s try some cutbacks when your team is attacking. Run from in to out to make the defender believe you want the ball out on the wing. When you think the time is right, cut back towards goal and get open for a pass..’
Too much.
First sentence only and watch progress.
Agree?
@PharmacySlane@PlayerGaelic I like the idea of developers v developers, but you don't see many coaching manuals encouraging this approach! What age group do you coach ?
One of the best things I’ve seen coaches do is…..bib players as they do the warm-up. Teams are sorted without fuss and without lining players up and letting them pick.
The best coaches have already decided the teams before training and are ready to adapt to cover absence.