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Eve Brensike Primus

Eve Brensike Primus

@PrimusEve

Prof. @UMichLaw (criminal procedure, evidence, habeas corpus); Trial/Appellate Public Defender; Director, MDefenders Program/Public Defender Training Institute

Ann Arbor, Michigan Katılım Kasım 2015
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Eve Brensike Primus@PrimusEve·
Check out this incredible new MDefenders resource designed to help public defenders bring social science into criminal courtrooms. Data for Defenders collects cutting-edge social science research and helps defenders incorporate it into their advocacy: datafordefenders.org
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MDefenders@MDefendersMLaw·
Ruben gave an incredible commencement speech @UMichLaw this week about the power of hope & how the law can be used as a tool for change: m.youtube.com/watch?v=YPeWQt…. We are proud to call Ruben our friend and can't wait to see what he will do next. Go Blue! /end
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MDefenders@MDefendersMLaw·
We graduated >25 lawyers into public defense. So grateful to have studied @UMichLaw in this amazing program. Here, we found community, purpose, & training to prepare us for the challenges ahead. We r headed to CA, CO, LA, MA, MI, OR, NM, NY, PA, TN, TX, & WA. Can't wait to start!
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MDefenders@MDefendersMLaw·
"I think it’d be a good idea for me to get an attorney..." - check out D4D's motion arguing for a 'reasonable-listener' Fifth Amendment invocation standard that covers client statements like this. datafordefenders.org/wp-content/upl…
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Eve Brensike Primus@PrimusEve·
So proud of @MDefendersMLaw Class of 26. Our graduation ceremony was standing room only & filled w/laughter, tears, & well wishes for these outstanding client-centered advocates. We are proud of you & can't wait to see all the good trouble you will make in the world!
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MDefenders@MDefendersMLaw

Today we send well prepared, immensely capable, good people out into the world to do important work. They are smart, creative, eager to fight the carceral state. Congratulations to our graduating @UMichLaw MDefenders, class of 2026!

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Eve Brensike Primus@PrimusEve·
Excited to be presenting at the Criminal Ethics Schmooze at Fordham Law this morning about the structure of indigent defense delivery and how we can and should talk about horizontal vs vertical defense.
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Eve Brensike Primus@PrimusEve·
What an incredible group of @MDefendersMLaw students in the Public Defender Training Institute this year. I can't wait to see what they will do on and off the court after they graduate this spring!
MDefenders@MDefendersMLaw

It's the end of the academic year @UMichLaw. You know what that means: time for the annual MDefenders Public Defender Training Institute East Coast versus West Coast basketball game. Such a blast spending a year learning (and playing) with this group!

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Eve Brensike Primus@PrimusEve·
@OrinKerr We already have data that these techniques lead people to falsely confess. I collect that research in our casebook. The fact that these techniques also can get a chatbot to admit to facts that it knows to be false shows that the techniques are powerful across domains.
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Orin Kerr@OrinKerr·
@PrimusEve To be clear, I’m not questioning that high-pressure interrogation tactics can lead to false confessions of people. I just think that getting a result from a chatbot tells us about chatbots, not people.
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Eve Brensike Primus@PrimusEve·
Paul Heaton recently accused ChatGPT of sending fake text messages from him to people (an impossible crime). Chat denied it, but Paul used techniques from the Reid Interrogation Method, the method used by US law enforcement, to wear Chat down and get it to falsely confess. 🧵
Steven A Drizin@SDrizin

Using the Reid Technique, the academic director of the @QuattroneCenter was able to get ChatGpt to confess to a crime it didn't commit. Wild! theintercept.com/2026/04/23/cha…

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Eve Brensike Primus@PrimusEve·
@OrinKerr You didn’t ask it to negate a fact, Orin. You asked it to pretend. That is different.
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@OrinKerr And there is plenty of evidence about how these techniques work to break human subjects already
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Orin Kerr@OrinKerr·
@PrimusEve I get that, but “i got a chatbot to say something” is a puzzling piece of evidence for the ease of getting a human to do it.
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Eve Brensike Primus@PrimusEve·
@OrinKerr But chat denied it and resisted the accusation at first so the bot wasn’t simply giving in from the start. And I agree that it isn’t a person, but children and vulnerable suspects often aim to please adults and authority figures in ways that are similar to chat.
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Orin Kerr@OrinKerr·
@PrimusEve I don’t think I understand what it even means to get an AI app to confess. It’s a computer chatbot designed to say what you want to hear, not an electronic version of a person.
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Eve Brensike Primus@PrimusEve·
Using deception, lies, and threats to interrogate suspects is not just unnecessary; it is dangerous. There are other, better ways to interrogate suspects, and I hope that experiments like this one with Chat make legislatures and judges pay attention. /end
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Eve Brensike Primus@PrimusEve·
Want to know more about efforts to limit these techniques & instead use methods less fraught & used in many other countries? I wrote an article, The State[s] of Confession Law in a Post-Miranda World, cataloguing & evaluating diff state approaches: lnkd.in/eW7SNxiS. /3
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Matthew Segal@segalmr·
MASSACHUSETTS SJC: Pretextual traffic stop conducted *24 hrs* after alleged traffic infraction violated MA Declaration of Rights.
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Eve Brensike Primus@PrimusEve·
Check out Ieshaah Murphy's article, "Defenders Assemble: A Blueprint for Building Antiracist Public Defender Offices." It's a must read for public defenders but also for those of us who educate aspiring public defenders. We can and should be better. scholarship.shu.edu/cgi/viewconten…
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Eve Brensike Primus@PrimusEve·
I recently had the honor of giving the keynote address at @IdahoLawReview's symposium on transforming public defense. I talk the importance of public defense work and what needs to be done to make it meaningful going forward. Remarks now available on ssrn: papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cf…
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Eve Brensike Primus@PrimusEve·
As we celebrate Administrative Professionals Day, I want to thank Amber Conway, Sydney Greenwood, & Sofia Nelson for all they do to make @MDefendersMLaw possible. We couldn't offer the programming & support we do w/o their energy, enthusiasm, & hard work. Thank you!
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