Nathan Sanghera (NSanghera93)

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Nathan Sanghera (NSanghera93)

@PunJay93

PEACE BE THE JOURNEY

Wolverhampton, UK Katılım Kasım 2013
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Nathan Sanghera (NSanghera93)
@Agrantandco @NormalDemocrats I don't think we are. And I'm not one to say Hamas is a good thing. Or does good things. But more on the specifics and the scale of what the Israeli government and the IDF has done, not just over the past 2 1/2 years but before that as well
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@PunJay93 @NormalDemocrats We obviously aren’t going to agree on this. But Hamas has been killing, beating, and kidnapping civilians for months now, so sure, they care about what happens to their people.
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Democrats Against Antisemites
Democrats Against Antisemites@NormalDemocrats·
We desperately need unapologetic Zionist in the Democratic Party. The current position of “we hate Israel and AIPAC, and think Zionists secretly control the government, but we like Jews and only hate Israel because of Netanyahu but can’t really point to a specific fact that justifies that hatred” is just not sustainable or serious.
Sarah Longwell@SarahLongwell25

My pet theory is that Dem voters are going to square the anti-semitism vs anti-current-Israeli-leadership circle by electing a Jewish guy who is vocally critical of Israel and Bibi. I’ll get tons of pushback on this right now. But let’s check in a year from now.

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@Agrantandco @NormalDemocrats Oh they don't do they? How is that now? They have done yes, but the notion of using human shields doesn't trust contain that does it. Misleading information, bombing refugee camps, hardly good warnings are they. Some instances yes, but a mass program of it happening doesn't exist
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Gobsmacked@Agrantandco·
@PunJay93 @NormalDemocrats The UN no longer carries any validity. There is plenty of video of Hamas firing from civilian locations and telling civilians not to leave when Israel requested evacuation of the area. Aid was stolen. There’s plenty of witnesses to that.
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@Agrantandco @NormalDemocrats Israeli army database. Yes they were. No evidence found for human shields or mass stealing of aid. You don't huh? So UN verified data or even the Israeli army's own database doesn't have any viability to you?
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Gobsmacked@Agrantandco·
@PunJay93 @NormalDemocrats Where did your info come from that 80% were civilians? No, human shield and stealing aid was not debunked at all. I don’t think your sources are reliable.
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@Agrantandco @NormalDemocrats 1. Targeting Hamas yet over 80% of people killed are innocent civilians 2. Human shields thing has been debunked 3. The amount of aid let in has been pathetically low, theft of aid debunked 4. Right to defend doesnt justify the killing of so many 5. This is just a semantics point
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@Agrantandco @NormalDemocrats It's one of many things, namely the 5 things I already stated: 1. Killing and loss of life 2. Engineering starvation 3. Destruction of infrastructure 4. Statements of dehumanisation 5. Forced displacement
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@Agrantandco @NormalDemocrats I mean talk about embellishing the truth. This is absolute nonsense. Also, this isn't about the Jews ffs. It's about what the Israeli government is doing. It's not religion related, it's a government's policy of ethnic cleansing and genocide. Simple as that
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Nathan Sanghera (NSanghera93)
@brad_polumbo How do you take what he said as wanting republicans to die? Typical overreacting nonsense. It's easy to interpret, he hates you guys because you're a threat to democracy with this fascist bs that Trump is pushing. And past statements which have generally been taken out of context
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Brad Polumbo 🇺🇸⚽️
Brad Polumbo 🇺🇸⚽️@brad_polumbo·
Hasan Piker hopes Republicans get killed or is, at best, totally indifferent to that prospect. I don't know how to interpret this ultra-hypberolic rhetoric, in the context of our current political climate and Hasan's past statements inciting violence, other than that. Yet he is a welcome figure or outright darling of much of left-of-center media.
Marco Foster@MarcoFoster_

Hasan Piker: “I hate Republicans. The Republicans are far more damaging. The biggest terrorist internationally is the Republican party. I want to fight against the growing fascist movement in this country. My frustration with the Democrats is their conciliatory attitude towards that. You say Donald Trump is a dangerous force, but then you turn around and take on his anti-immigrant narratives from 2020”

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History Speaks
History Speaks@History__Speaks·
Re: @hasanthehun: His 9/11 comments were sub-moronic and morally reprehensible. Unlike Iran or Hamas, Salafi Jihadists like AQ or ISIS actually do hate Americans for being non-Muslim. Glad he's backtracked from those comments. The other stuff that is cited against him strikes me as meh even when I disagree. The guy is a Leftist Twitch streamer and is going to say things like this. In general, I see no reason why politicians shouldn't collaborate with him. Pragmatically, it's a net win to do so; as his supporters are substantial in number and his obsessive opponents are lost causes anyway (the large majority of Americans wouldn't care one way or another whether a politician hangs out with him). In terms of the 'moral critique' of politicians collaborating with him, the idea that 'you shouldn't talk to this person who said these awful things' is fake, reminds of Woke 1.0, and is in any case a power game used by the establishment. Regardless of his flaws, he's morally superior to any Israel supporter at this point, i.e. the large majority of our political and media classes.
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@Agrantandco @NormalDemocrats 2000 violations through air and drone strikes, violating the yellow line a tonne of times including shooting at kids, not to mention still failing to meet standards for allowing aid into Gaza. Not to mention attacking refugee camps and further settler violence in the West Bank
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Gobsmacked@Agrantandco·
@PunJay93 @NormalDemocrats Hamas didn't. You do realize Hamas never followed through on anything, right? You think Israel will if the people who have said they will commit 10/7 over and over again won't agree to the terms of a ceasefire?
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Nathan Sanghera (NSanghera93)
@Agrantandco @NormalDemocrats Based on UN reports: 1. Killing and loss of life (killing of children and mistreatment of detainees) 2. Engineering starvation (deliberate prevention of aid into Gaza) 3. Destruction of infrastructure (most of Gaza levelled) 4. Statements of dehumanisation 5. Forced displacement
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Gobsmacked@Agrantandco·
@PunJay93 @NormalDemocrats Iran has been attacking Israel for decades through their proxies. Define genocide using the legal definition and explain how Israel has met the criteria.
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CP
CP@ClearlakePsyop·
@PunJay93 @serenedoge11 @History__Speaks @hasanthehun Nope. Judaism is an ethnoreligion, all Jews are related except for converts who represent less than 1% of total Jews. Why are the top 10 largest terrorist groups across the globe all Muslim? Across multiple continents mind you. There's no genocide 😂 typical Low IQ muz.
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Nathan Sanghera (NSanghera93)
@benga1scentre Is it just me or does 41 feel like a sweet spot to take a corner? Johnson or Ponds especially should be there and they would be excellent. If not, maybe a Terrell or Hood falls, either way, I like McCoy and Delane, but I feel Downs, Bain, Styles or Love would be better picks
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Nathan Sanghera (NSanghera93)
@FaraiMazhindu I'm sorry. Did Iran start that war? No they didn't. Criticise the regime as much as you want, which is fair considering what they've done. But the USA and Israel started this war
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Farai Mazhindu
Farai Mazhindu@FaraiMazhindu·
The War on the United States of America is the most illogical conflict in Human History. We are living in a strange era where anti-Americanism is the cheapest currency for popularity. Whether in Asia, the Middle East, or the Sahel, the fastest way to win a crowd is to burn a flag or blame Washington. But past the rhetoric, the obsession with seeing America fail isn't just misguided, it's completely illogical. People love to trash the U.S, but they trust its systems with their lives. Name another superpower where a former President can be held accountable in a court of law. The world's money flows through New York because the rules are transparent. Even the most vocal anti-imperialist dictators keep their personal wealth in USD. They know it's the only currency backed by a system that won't vanish overnight. While other nations cycle through coups, juntas, and eternal leaders every few decades, America has maintained peaceful handovers of power for a quarter of a millennium. That institutional stability is the foundation for everything else, the wealth, the innovation, and the freedom. The world's anti-Americans are currently using American tech iPhone/Android on American platforms X, Meta, Google to post their anti-American views. From NASA touching the stars to Silicon Valley defining the future of AI, America remains decades ahead. The energy spent hating this progress is energy wasted avoiding the truth that, America is the engine of human milestone. Everyone poses as anti-American until the music starts or the movie plays. The icons, the films, the NBA, the NFL, American pop culture is the global tongue. It is the only place where the American Dream isn't just a slogan, but a reality for the millions of immigrants who continue to flock there. The most tragic irony is almost every anti-American figure in history has a secret link to the West. They send their children to Ivy League schools, use American medicine, and consume American luxury. They sell "The West is Evil" to their citizens while enjoying the fruits of the West in private. Organizations are being formed and billions spent with one goal which is, to beat America. Imagine if that energy was spent on building domestic systems that actually worked. Imagine if the focus was on innovation instead of imitation and resentment. You cannot defeat a system that you are simultaneously dependent on. The world loves the fruits of America but hates the tree. Hating the U.S. doesn't make a nation stronger, it just makes it blind to why its own systems are failing. America isn't just a country, it's the most successful experiment in human history. The results speak for themselves.
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Gobsmacked@Agrantandco·
@PunJay93 @NormalDemocrats I don't think it's the majority. As for supporting their government, what does that mean? Keeping them safe? Attacking the bad guys? Or something else? Bibi is very unpopular in Israel, I hope he is voted out.
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Nathan Sanghera (NSanghera93)
@Agrantandco @NormalDemocrats Israel takes pre-emptive strikes (see the current Iran war), they've often done this to justify attacks. Not all of the time obviously, & talking of ceasefire violations, Israel continues to do that in Gaza. It's a shame of a ceasefire. If the government wants peace, act like it
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@PunJay93 @NormalDemocrats believe in it. Israel is in Lebanon because Hezbollah has been launching rockets into Israel since 10/2023 and failed to follow the ceasefire. Don't attack Israel, and Israel will leave you alone.
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@Agrantandco @NormalDemocrats People say it because they do it. They always say they're the most moral army, yet have killed so many. And 70% of Israelis support what their government is doing. It's not all of them of course, but a majority are supporting it, that's a problem
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Gobsmacked@Agrantandco·
@PunJay93 @NormalDemocrats Antisemites like to say that Jews/Israelis claim to be the victim, but Jews and Israelis never claim that at all. The Greater Israel map is actually the Holy Land. Israel's far right gov and religious extremists may believe in it, but it is not policy nor do most Israelis 1/
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