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@mrbox536602 @EldenDryad @psychicautomata Lol, here's another cope.

@ROID137 @EldenDryad @psychicautomata the number of scholars doesn’t matter it matters what they produce if one Iranian scholar produces Algerbra and algorithms they are more important than thousands arab scholars. Also nationalism is modern thing so many these Arabs didn’t think themselves as Arab z

I think one of the funniest things about the "The Islamic Golden Age was all persians" thing is aside from it being wrong, it also just ignores that it wasn t just the East. Fatimid Egypt underwent a renaissance of the sciences and learning!

@mrbox536602 @EldenDryad @psychicautomata it's clear you are just coping. and Andalusia fall is irrelevant to what we are talking about, stop changing subjects after i put you in a corner. Arab still achieve great things in science till this day (not like your people) an Arab man won Nobel prize literally 11 months ago.

@ROID137 @EldenDryad @psychicautomata The image is hard to see and what does Muladi mean? It’s sad to see Arabs talk about past glory so much al Andalusia fell it doesn’t exist anymore what has Arab countries done for science since 1800s

@mrbox536602 @EldenDryad @psychicautomata Nope its scholars in general. This is also a study for Andalusia, the number of Arabs scholars in Andalusia alone (without mentioning the rest of the Arab/Islamic world) is 10x the number of Persian scholars since the beginning of time till this day .

@ROID137 @EldenDryad @psychicautomata This is talking about reilgions scholars not science

@Titctc @psychicautomata How is this a counterargument? 😂i posted a study. here's another study for the golden age in Andalusia

@ROID137 @psychicautomata Counterargument

@Titctc @psychicautomata No

@psychicautomata The truth is that the islamic golden age was not Arab nor Persian but central Asian

@EldenDryad @psychicautomata No.

@psychicautomata It was mostly persians

@Aks_the_Seeker @GedikAly @arabian_p11 him having a Kipchak mask is irrelevant. he Embraced Arab culture and customs and spoke Arabic.

@ROID137 @GedikAly @arabian_p11 He literally had Kipchak mask what Arabizing? And it won't make him an Arab still. I don't have any issues with Arabs or anything but stop twisting the history.

@EnvelopmentAI @ihtesham2005 "why call him Arab?" because he was an Arab? you retard.

@ihtesham2005 Why call him Arab? The Arab world is the Arabian Peninsula. Nobody there could read, so how would they know about him? He was Persian.

An Arab scholar in 1011 was placed under house arrest in Cairo for 10 years. He used the time to invent the scientific method, prove how vision actually works, and write a 7-volume book that Newton studied 600 years later. I read about him last night and could not stop thinking about it. His name was Ibn al-Haytham. The book is called the "Book of Optics." The textbook story names Bacon, Galileo, and Descartes as the founders of modern science. All three of them came 600 years after Ibn al-Haytham. All three of them studied his work directly or through Latin translations. The man who actually invented the scientific method was working alone in a single room in Cairo while Europe was still in the Dark Ages. Here is the story almost nobody tells you. He was born in Basra around 965 CE. By his 40s he had a reputation across the Arab world as one of the most original minds alive. Then he made the mistake that almost killed him. He claimed publicly that he could regulate the flooding of the Nile. The mad caliph al-Hakim of Cairo summoned him to Egypt to do it. Ibn al-Haytham took one look at the river and realized the project was impossible with the technology of his era. The caliph had executed dozens of scholars for less. So he faked madness. The caliph believed him and put him under house arrest in his own home in Cairo for the next 10 years. Most people would have lost their actual mind. He used the time to invent science. Before him, knowledge worked one way. You quoted authority. If Aristotle had said it, it was true. If Galen had written it, it was correct. The role of a scholar was to memorize and defend the ancient Greeks. I Ibn al-Haytham broke this completely. He wrote a sentence in the Book of Optics that quietly destroyed 1,400 years of intellectual culture. "The seeker after truth," he said, "is not the one who follows his natural disposition to trust the writings of the ancients. The seeker after truth is the one who suspects them, questions them, and submits only to argument and experiment." That single sentence is the foundation of modern science. He wrote it 600 years before the European Renaissance. The second thing he did was build the actual machinery of experimentation. He insisted that no claim about the physical world was acceptable until it had been verified by an experiment anyone could repeat. He gave detailed instructions for every experiment in his book. He told his readers, in writing, not to take his word for any of it. Build the equipment. Run the tests yourself. Verify or destroy my claims with your own eyes. The third thing he did was use the method to overturn one of the most settled questions in physics. The Greeks had taught for centuries that vision worked because the eye emitted invisible rays. Ibn al-Haytham proved them wrong with a darkened room, a small hole, and a wall. The first camera obscura. He showed that light from the outside world enters the eye, the exact opposite of what every Greek thinker had taught. Two hundred years later his book was translated into Latin in Spain. Roger Bacon cited him. Kepler cited him. Galileo's work on the telescope was built on his optics. Newton's foundational work on light rested on his framework. Walk into any physics department today. Ask who founded the scientific method. Almost nobody will say Ibn al-Haytham. The man who invented the way humanity actually knows things did the work under house arrest, with no funding, no laboratory, and a paranoid caliph next door waiting for an excuse to kill him. He did it anyway. Most of the world is still pretending it was someone else's idea.

@GedikAly @arabian_p11 He was Arabized and his army is Arab you jungle monkey 😂

@arabian_p11 LOL he's turkic kipchak not arabs, your arabs caliphate was weak and drown into the lust and wine. Remind me again how the caliph in baghdad executed by mongols. Your glorious history end in 1258, after that turks taking the banner of Islam because arabs turning away from islam.

@TORUKMAKTO_1 Shu'ubiyya have used the same arguments for the last thousand year.

What I notice with Ajams they all have the same opinions and same arguments like you rarely see some Ajam with unique opinions If you guys pay attention ALL THE AJAMS LITERALLY SOUND THE SAME AND IT FEELS LIKE AS IF YOU ARE TALKING WITH THE SAME PERSON OVER AND OVER AGAIN

@noz3443 @Ake_7_0 you are so retarded wtf is the point of talking to you

@ROID137 @Ake_7_0 that actually proves my point

Don't try to play games with me When the Arabs are victorious, that is considered Islamic history. : When Arabs lose, they say it's because they are weak. : This is the mentality of a non-Arab Muslim in reality. but : Before their conversion to Islam, the Arabs built the greatest civilization mentioned in the Qur’an, which God described as “Iram of the Pillars, the like of which was not created in the land.” After the Arabs embraced Islam, they made half the globe Muslim and built the greatest civilization on Earth. Discoveries and scientists of that era were commonplace due to their abundance.

@noz3443 @Ake_7_0 Niqqa i just proved you they didn't??

@ROID137 @Ake_7_0 I looked it up, Persians contributed more. You look it up

@noz3443 @Ake_7_0 But you didn't??

@ROID137 @Ake_7_0 This is my fucking point retard. We exceeded your contributions with when you had more. That’s all fucking retarded yall are

@noz3443 @Ake_7_0 is this what they teach you in Iran? because research and studies says otherwise. The propaganda will stop now.

@Ake_7_0 yeah no all your best achievements came from Persians, your history is just rape and murder.

@XCresporX @HidayetiAli @BalaamAndDonkey It's funny because these "Persians" didn't have one scholar before the Arabs civilized them.

@HidayetiAli @BalaamAndDonkey It’s always funny how you guys reverse things. The Persian scholars were absolutely culturally dominated by Arabs not the other way around, they spoke, thought and wrote in Arabic, their names were in Arabic, they were under the umbrella of the Arab Abbasid empire

The Persian contribution to Islam. 🙏

@HidayetiAli @BalaamAndDonkey "Persian-sphere scholars drove science & philosophy—Islamic Golden Age" yeah, science disagrees.

@BalaamAndDonkey Yeah Roman inspired we know, but dude the Abbasids were a Persian-influenced empire. places like the House of Wisdom led translations of Persian & Greek knowledge. Persian-sphere scholars drove science & philosophy—Islamic Golden Age.

@ad02384492 @Haydarxl80 Most civilized Berber custom

@Haydarxl80 @ad02384492 Niqqa you can literally see the source.

@ROID137 @ad02384492 I like the prove you just posted Please tell me is it made by Alfawzan ?

@Haydarxl80 @ad02384492 All those ethnicities didn't have a single thought before the Gulf Arabs came and made them human beings and think like people (except Amazigh still retarded). All those scientists came from the Arabian Peninsula and belong to Arab tribes that still live in the Gulf to this day

@ad02384492 They are right Gulf arabs (the real arabs) had very little contribution in science, history yet they feel concerned and claim achievements from other non arabs muslim nations like Persians and amazighs

@Shepo_of_ITTIHA @Wahb_Allat تستطيع اثبات وجهة نظرك انت بشكل علمي؟ سيبويه ما كان الا طالب عند الفراهيدي وعمل على كتاب النحو 42 عالم من بينهم سيبويه.

"اذا كان السواد الاعظم للمسلمين العرب لا يعلمون ان جل علمائهم في الطب و الادب و اصحاب الاصحاح فرس!" قسماً انها اسطوره روحها الشعوبيه ونسبة الفرس ليست الغالبية لا في الطب ولا في الادب ولا في الحديث ولا في علوم الحضاره. لا اقولها تعصباً قومياً كما يفعلون ولكن هذا الواقع لمن درس.