@ChrisDe57847559@ForgiatoBlow47 Yeah, right.. I grew up loving the US and everything American. Trump swiftly ended that, now I cant wait for the US to fuck off. The Government, I still like Americans...!
@Ramitdownn@ForgiatoBlow47 Contrary to what you might think the US has no interest in policing Europe. It is time for the EU to form their own military
@ChrisDe57847559@ForgiatoBlow47 So not so much allies then.. I think Europe would be better off without the Trumpian dictatorship. Trump is a attention-seeking narcissist that I think shares military intel with Russia. That would be cause for treason just a few years ago. But, people like you make stop that
@Ramitdownn@ForgiatoBlow47 I think you may not be aware of advances SpaceX has made in satellites. Much of this technology is not shared with NATO allies
@Ramitdownn@ForgiatoBlow47 No I think if you enter a defense alliance and make comments to spend a % of your budget on defense but instead spend the money on social programs for decades while your Navy rots away and you rely on another nations “shared resources” you are not a worthy ally of the US military
@ChrisDe57847559@ForgiatoBlow47 The China aspect is bull, you know it. UK surrendering to China over Hong Kong.. That was to end European colonialism, come on. If you are a fan of that, America would still be British. Lets keep the discussion above this
@Ramitdownn@ForgiatoBlow47 NATO members have been undermining the US with China for years. Look at the Belt and Road, the London super Embassy, the UK’s complete surrender of Hong Kong self rule, etc.
With allies like that who needs enemies
@Ramitdownn@ForgiatoBlow47 That’s great however advances in satellite technology allow the US to monitor the Baltic remotely and if Russia was to attack the US it would be from our Pacific coast. The US also shares a border with Russia at the Bering Strait.
@ChrisDe57847559@ForgiatoBlow47 That is what an alliance is. Share resources. Do you think that just because the USA is a world agressor, everyone else should also be? The world was relatively peaceful before Trump. I see your anger with UK. Rest asure, they are read
@Ramitdownn@ForgiatoBlow47 What kind of a NATO ally is an island nation that has let it’s own Navy- once the undisputed rulers of the sea- fall into such a pitiful state that they have to borrow a ship from Germany in order to complete their required NATO patrols?
The UK is not a worthy ally of the US
@ChrisDe57847559@ForgiatoBlow47 Well, the situation now is the US wants out of NATO. Ok, we can handle Russia, seriously. Then, the US will end up in a fight with China. No backing from Europe, you pulled out. An alliance is not only military.
@Ramitdownn@ForgiatoBlow47 That was a very popular position in the US after the 1st World War. There wasn’t an appetite to go fight another war in Europe and the US had large German & Italian immigrant populations who were very much against waging a war against their former homes.
Until Pearl Harbor
@ChrisDe57847559@ForgiatoBlow47 We have had Russia as neighbours always. We have a long coast. Do you not think we are watching? As one of NATOs outposts? Get fucked, we are the first attacks and the first responers. We have a expected life of 35 minutes, our goal ist to slow Russia down enough for UK/US to get
@Ramitdownn@ForgiatoBlow47 I think Russian warships can travel through the UK’s territorial waters unbothered because the Royal Navy doesn’t even have sufficient coast guard patrol boats to secure the British islands.
What does tracking their movements accomplish if the vessel travels freely?
The US turned the war. Without the US, we would have a big problem. Now? The US has withdrawn support to Ukraine. That is the same as not interfering in WW2. But, to be honest, I want the US to fuck right off
@ChrisDe57847559@ForgiatoBlow47 Ok, you know more about the reasons. Are you saying the US should have stayed out of the war? Let Europe and Russia deal with Germany?
@Ramitdownn@ForgiatoBlow47 The US entered WWII on the UK’s behalf long before Pearl Harbor through the Lend Lease Act which the US used as a charade to give Europe weapons without payment so to not technically declare war on Germany which wouldn’t have been possible prior to Pearl Harbor
@ChrisDe57847559@ForgiatoBlow47 You think it is unbothered? The Norwegian and UK marine follow them every inch. You are not skilled in marine tech, but rest asure, we have more oversight and control than the US can dream of. One reason for NATO. No Russian ship or sub move a foot, without Europe knowing
@Ramitdownn@ForgiatoBlow47 Come on, Russian warships, subs & sanctioned vessels travel through the English Channel unbothered by a toothless Royal Navy. The UK military cant even stop the endless stream of migrants crossing the English Channel
reuters.com/world/uk/russi…
I will be the first to thank the US, and recognice the power of the US military. At the same time, I will be the first to say Europe will manage. Russia is not the problem. The problem is the US is now feeding Russia with intelligence. Trump and Putin are partners. A problem
@ChrisDe57847559@ForgiatoBlow47 Seems you forgot about Pearl Harbour. You also seem ti think the US just decided to become the world superpower. In the beginnig, after WW2, you think it would be that easy without the backing of Europe?
@Ramitdownn@ForgiatoBlow47 The US armed Stalin’s Russian forces during WWII because we didn’t want the Soviets to take over? Hmmm. That’s ridiculous.
The reason the US entered WWII was because of Churchill and his relationship with the Roosevelt & the US. His mother was an American and he understood us
@ChrisDe57847559@ForgiatoBlow47 But Russia will try. It is their only chance. But the Nordic NATO will hammer them. The US will not be able. To be honest. I hope US is kept in the dark. The US is now friends with Russia. Get the fucking US out
@ChrisDe57847559@ForgiatoBlow47 in size. Russia beat Germany at winter war during WW2. Norway, Sweden, Finland live and breathe winter. The US trains every year, on winter war fare. There is no
one in the world what can beat the Finns in winter war
@Ramitdownn@ForgiatoBlow47 Fuck you with this dead European soldiers bullshit. Do you any fucking idea how many 10s of thousands of dead Americans are buried in military cemeteries in Europe from WWI and WWII?
@ChrisDe57847559@ForgiatoBlow47 You are young. Europe has been here for ages. We will be fine. And, it is better to be fighting alone, united, than have a partner who is sleeping with the enemy.