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downward67@Ramsey6281·
No. It’s “well-meaning but deeply silly sci-fi storytelling” only comes in at the 11th hour to bail David Koepp out of a hole he wrote himself into. I view the “optimistic ending” as a way to not engage with the difficult questions and world they’ve created.
Seymour Butts@VashKohime

DISCLOSURE DAY is pulling from a kind of naive, well-meaning but deeply silly science fiction storytelling that hasn't been relevant in at least 40 years. I can't really say I'm too shocked that a bunch of young people are looking at this and going "what is this."

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downward67@Ramsey6281·
I like this kind of movie discourse where we make up a point and plaster it on a group of people instead of rebuking specific examples. Really helps to dismiss any criticism of the movie under “they’re against optimism” or “they just wanted it to be different”.
Ben Crew@BenjaminCrew1

Kind of telling that many negative reviews of Spielberg's work are "Our greatest living artist processes trauma by finding optimism and hope. If only he had given into pessimism and doom, like me."

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Duhlorean@Duhlorean98·
#NowWatching Disclosure Day (2026) I’ve heard everything ranging from “This is Spielberg’s best movie in years” to “This is a bowl of cat piss”. Which means I’m more excited now.
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downward67@Ramsey6281·
@Duhlorean98 That thread is hilarious. The first reply is them saying they haven’t seen the movie and only read a brief plot summary about it 💀.
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downward67@Ramsey6281·
I think there’s actually plenty given about the characters lives in The Drama and Obsession that’s not given through exposition. This complaint is more a failure on your part to engage with other aspects of these movies besides said exposition.
tylekurner@tylekurner

something i've noticed about THE DRAMA, OBSESSION, BLUE FILM, EXIT 8, HOKUM, ERUPCJA, & UNDERTONE is a relative incuriosity about characters' lives beyond exposition. very hermetic, these people don't seem to exist outside of the immediate circumstances of the movie they're in.

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downward67@Ramsey6281·
Every criticism of this movie from the 70s are a bunch of New Hollywood types suddenly becoming moral puritans who ask “WhY dId KuBRick IncLudE All ThIS RApe and VioLEncE!?” When there is a clear and obvious point beaten into your head for 130 min straight.
DepressedBergman@DannyDrinksWine

John Cassavetes on why he is against movies like Stanley Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange" (1971): "There’s a difference between being violent and having violent emotions. There’s a difference between anger and the act of shooting somebody in the face. I’ve never known anyone in my life that ever shot anyone in the face. And I’ve seen it on the screen too many times. There’s no morality there, no feeling of anything for anyone. It’s a lie to say that people are violent. There are more good people than there are bad people. To see constant terror builds a nation, builds moviegoers that can only love constant terror. We become used to it, inured to it like doctors knowing they have to be tough. They can’t think of that person with tenderness, but must be dispassionate. There’s a lot of violence in 'Minnie and Moskowitz' (1971) but violence that I can understand. Violent feelings, but nobody ki!!s anybody or shoots anyone or knifes anybody. Without having seen 'A Clockwork Orange' (1971), I know, because I know the story. I really couldn’t go to see it, because I don’t want to see people ki!! each other. I don’t want to see any more hostility toward one another. I just don’t want to see that reflected any more. I’m tired of violence and dehumanization. I think the artist has a tremendous obligation to bring trust to people. Because the only thing we don’t have time for is ourselves. We can’t live with ourselves if we have no respect for our life and the human condition and the foibles that exist in all of us – then we have no tolerance, we’re all Nazis. We can’t survive with people being that inhuman. It’s impossible. I look at 'A Clockwork Orange' and ask, why did Stanley make it? Did he make it for anyone in particular? Why did he choose a story like that, in this day and age? For what: to incite a revolution, to stop everything? Maybe that would be OK, if he really believed that, but I don’t believe it. I don’t know why he made it. The more films are made about insanity, the more fashionable it will become. And, eventually, as we become more and more dehumanized, there will be no answers for anyone. You can’t get any pleasure out of being an animal. There should be a Kubrick who can make that film and show that life can be violent and harsh. But, on the other hand, where are the equalizing forces of happiness? Art films, in stressing the weakness of society, have lost their balance. The majority of people would rather be filled with illusion than disillusion. And we just have to find some way to reflect that. Not just to constantly say, ‘Oh, God, things are wrong and all, and I don’t know what to do about it.’" ('Cassavetes on Cassavetes', edited by Ray Carney, 2001)

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downward67@Ramsey6281·
-Calls ASOIAF pessimistic -Hasn’t read ASOIAF Tale as old as time
Fandom Pulse@fandompulse

Brandon Sanderson on why he would not finish George R.R. Martin's Game of Thrones even if he was asked: "I wouldn't say yes to finishing ASOIAF, if asked. (And I don't think they'd ask me.) I'd respectfully decline. I wouldn't be right for the job for many reasons. I wouldn't want to put in the content that the series has, and part of that is due to my religious faith, part of it is just who I am. I don't shy away from difficult material, but I prefer not to get explicit. Honestly, when I read it in George's work, I often just cringe. I don't think it fits in prose; I think it looks tacky. But that's almost 100% due to the my religious leanings. I realize that others don't read such scenes in the same way as I do. However, I'd suggest that this is actually a minor reason why I'd be a bad writer on this series, despite having enormous respect for GRRM and his talent as a storyteller. The primary reason has to do with fundamental optimism vs pessimism. I write darkness into my books, but it is darkness as contrast to light, and there is always a spark of hope. George's work seems fundamentally pessimistic--which I don't say as a slam. One of my favorite short stories is Harrison Bergeron, which is also fundamentally pessimistic. Saying George's work is pessimistic doesn't mean that HE is pessimistic, only that he creates a work of art that evokes emotion and discussion through pessimistic themes. As a comparison, I'm glad that Silver Age science fiction produced both Harrison Bergeron and Star Trek--but I'm Star Trek, not Harrison Bergeron. Calling me in to work on this piece would be like calling in Spielberg to finish a Tarantino film. (Not to imply I deserve to be ranked with either one.) Sure, he could do it, but wouldn't you want someone who themselves makes films with Tarantino-like themes? My work is also fundamentally different from George's in our use of magic. We've talked about books, and he points out (rightly) that I often use a heavily magical component in my stories--particularly the endings. This is because I'm writing science/magic hybrids, and the idea of magic as progress is fascinating to me. George, however, prefers his magic to be arcane, unknown, and dark--not a tool, but a force you can sometimes (with great danger) apply. This is a small issue, as I'm fond of books that use magic differently, I've just made a stylistic choice in how I do what I do." Do you think this still holds?

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downward67@Ramsey6281·
@Duhlorean98 Do you think his whole situation with the WGA played a big part in No Other Choice being snubbed?
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Duhlorean@Duhlorean98·
RE: PARK CHAN-WOOK AND THE OSCARS The worst thing that could happen to NO OTHER CHOICE did indeed happen. Doesn't matter what he does. Even if PCW wins Palme d'Or, Oscar pundits and regional critics won't support him because they'll believe that the Oscars won't nominate him.
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Duhlorean@Duhlorean98·
WTF No Other Choice has leaked online in HD?????
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