@RayGoodison @iamAbiodunAA One is a back up striker who has played far fewer matches and mins than the other one, while still outperformimg his xG by 2.2 goals
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Raphael
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@Raphael_0rion @iamAbiodunAA When making comparisons like this you need to consider certain indices.
One plays in an ultra attacking side who are comfortably seated 1st on the La liga table while another plays for a struggling EPL side. Who do you expect would rake in more goals by default?
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João Pedro is a massive upgrade on what we currently have fr
Abiodun A. Adeleke👨🏽💻@iamAbiodunAA
E go tey gan before we win UCL. Thank God I’ve witnessed the club with 4 UCLs already. I pity the new fans sha. Make we just focus on winning LaLigas and CDRs. Sørloth and João Pedro? Chelsea Joao Pedro? To replace Lewandowski? Both are not even better than Ferran. We never ready for this club.
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@georgelamps @Raphael_0rion @bayour20 No argue again abeg.
I don talk my own. Ferrass no dey pedro level
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Joao pedro and Ferran Torres in 2026? Lmao….. Jesus Christ
Abiodun A. Adeleke👨🏽💻@iamAbiodunAA
E go tey gan before we win UCL. Thank God I’ve witnessed the club with 4 UCLs already. I pity the new fans sha. Make we just focus on winning LaLigas and CDRs. Sørloth and João Pedro? Chelsea Joao Pedro? To replace Lewandowski? Both are not even better than Ferran. We never ready for this club.
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@Raphael_0rion @King_Brightest @iamAbiodunAA Chelsea bought Joao Pedro from Brighton after he scored just 10 goals (5 open play, 5 penalties) bought Delap cos he scored I think 12-15 goals for Ipswich. What people look at is, if he can score 1 goal in a lower team he can score 3 in a better team 🤷🏿
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E go tey gan before we win UCL.
Thank God I’ve witnessed the club with 4 UCLs already. I pity the new fans sha.
Make we just focus on winning LaLigas and CDRs.
Sørloth and João Pedro? Chelsea Joao Pedro? To replace Lewandowski? Both are not even better than Ferran.
We never ready for this club.
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@Viewbysamson @King_Brightest @iamAbiodunAA In no world is signing a 14 league goal striker for 70m in order to replace your 14 league goal striker a sensible move. Especially when your club's striker has a slightly better efficiency than his potential replacement. No matter how you think about it, it doesn't make sense
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@Raphael_0rion @King_Brightest @iamAbiodunAA If Kane is scoring 25 goals for spurs and Bayern signs him, I believe the thought process with data and eye test will be, ‘This is someone we can build the team around, so if he can score 25 goals in the prem playing for spurs he can surely score over 30 here’ that applies here!
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@georgelamps @dayo3o6 @bayour20 With these stats, who's outperformimg his xG more and who's more efficient?
You adding Big chances created and assists means nothing when the discussion is about efficiency and goal scoring
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@Raphael_0rion @dayo3o6 @bayour20 I knew those stats were not accurateimmediately i saw it,
Joao Pedro has 14 goals from 13.72 XG and 11 chances missed with 5 assists
6 Big chances created
Ferran Torres has 14 goals from 12.42 XG and 19 chances missed with 1 assist
3 Big chances created
Now make your judgement
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@Mustapha_szn PSG have the wingers and full backs for that kind of system
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PSG is the best team in the world without a box dominator 9
Amalinze the Cat@IhejirikaS48939
Lmaooo this exactly!! I talk about box presence, being a box predator and Barca fans say I’m talking about height only lol. Were Aguero or Tevez tall? Can you say they didn’t dominate the box? When you’re an actual Number 9, your movement, spatial awareness, ability to
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@Viewbysamson @King_Brightest @iamAbiodunAA In no world is signing a 14 league goal striker for 70m in order to replace your 14 league goal striker a sensible move. Especially when your club's striker has a slightly better efficiency than his potential replacement. No matter how you think about it, it doesn't make sense
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@Raphael_0rion @King_Brightest @iamAbiodunAA Smiles
If u can answer d ?? then you will see how signing Pedro makes sense compare to keeping Ferran. Like I always say, no top team will sell their starting striker, you just have to make do with whoever is available and see if he can improve to become what your team needs.
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@Viewbysamson @King_Brightest @iamAbiodunAA I personally do not want any of them in my team. Spending 60-70m on a new CF that has an efficiency similar to that of my current CF who is deemed not good enough for my team, is a stupid move. If you can't find a better CF, then use the money to get a LW & keep the other player.
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@Raphael_0rion @King_Brightest @iamAbiodunAA Quick question, does it look like you’ve seen the best of Ferran Torres yet or his best is yet to come. Do you think Ferran can hit another level (note: he’s 26) and maybe become a world class player?
Then look at Pedro, do you think he can maybe hit another level?
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@DoroChurchill @Play_Muziq @VERITY_HQ They are reasonable to themselves and to the vast majority of the society.
Many people look for what they don't have in themselves, in others (their partners or friends).
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@Raphael_0rion @Play_Muziq @VERITY_HQ Yup they are all unreasonable…I believe that people should find themselves first then date whoever is in the vicinity of what you find in yourself
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“This is your future wife.
Cooking and cleaning for her current boyfriend
When she’s done cooking… they will knack
For absolutely FREE!!!!!
And in few years her uncles will be telling your uncles they raised a Queen and you should pay expensive bride price.
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@georgelamps @dayo3o6 @bayour20 And I'm telling you that Joao Pedro still gets better chances because his xG literally states that. He should have more goals than Ferran from the kind of chances he gets and the shots he takes. Yes he played for a weaker side but he still gets those chances
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@Raphael_0rion @dayo3o6 @bayour20 Because of the quality players surrounding them,u people argue that players in Barcelona are better than players elsewhere
If a player has more chances to score,it is the quality he surrounds himself with...but anyway,i think there is a bias here, I don't even rate him like dat
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@Viewbysamson @UmarBinSuleiman @iamAbiodunAA There's no way you can compare both strikers and their efficiency without using the xG. The xG doesn't lie in this case. Ferran has scored the same amount of goals from a lesser xG and in fewer mins from fewer shots.
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@Raphael_0rion @UmarBinSuleiman @iamAbiodunAA There’s no way to compare both players without comparing the team they play for because that will count in the kind of chances that falls to both players. (Majorly because they are not world class players) The goals Ferran misses are goals Joao Pedro will score
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@DavidB30731 @Kaypoisson1 They won it in 2010 without him. In 2014, Xavi was past his prime and Silva started and they got grouped.
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@Raphael_0rion @Kaypoisson1 Biggest tournament? Was the 2014 world cup not big or was it because they were eliminated early or was it because they were not in their "prime"?
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Bruno Fernandes is currently the most overrated player in the world right now
Getting Compared to De Bruyne, Xavi and Iniesta when he has 0 league titles at age 31 😭
He is not even half the player David Silva was and David Silva was holding bench for Xavi and Iniesta
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@Viewbysamson @King_Brightest @iamAbiodunAA This stat just shows that no matter the teams they play for, their efficiency remains similar but shifts slightly in favour of Ferran
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@Raphael_0rion @King_Brightest @iamAbiodunAA I will also be happy if I have Yamal to do all the job and I just have to be at the right position to score the goals
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@Viewbysamson @King_Brightest @iamAbiodunAA Go to the PL app and check it. Joao Pedro has 14 goals from 13.7 xG
Ferran has 14 goals from 12.4xG
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@Raphael_0rion @King_Brightest @iamAbiodunAA Before Ferran scores one goal, he would’ve missed three chances, Joao Pedro doesn’t need three chances. He sometimes just need half chances tl score. Plus this your XG stat, how legit is it?
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@Viewbysamson @King_Brightest @iamAbiodunAA If you are playing for Barcelona and you have scored 14 goals from 11xG and I'm playing for Chelsea and I've scored 14 goals from 13xG then I have to concede the fact that you are more efficient than I am. Joao Pedro still gets better chances while playing for the weaker team.
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@Raphael_0rion @King_Brightest @iamAbiodunAA If I’m playing for Barcelona (an attacking team) and you’re playing for Chelsea, a team that isn’t balanced and has had three coaches, I’d argue that I should have more goals than you. Don’t you think?
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@Viewbysamson @UmarBinSuleiman @iamAbiodunAA We are comparing two strikers, not two teams. We use efficiency and productivity to compare both of them. Ferran has been more efficient than Joao Pedro. The stats prove it. Whether you like the xG stats or not, it's there to show you the truth. Stop using the better team gimmick
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@Raphael_0rion @UmarBinSuleiman @iamAbiodunAA You just said Ferran is statistically better, I asked for their goal stats you didnt reply. Also Chelsea had more XG than PSG in both legs, they lost the game 8-2 so please don’t argue with me using XG.
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David Silva never help bench for Xavi and Iniesta and Silva has more goal contributions for Spain than Xavi and Iniesta combined
Kay💧@Kaypoisson1
Bruno Fernandes is currently the most overrated player in the world right now Getting Compared to De Bruyne, Xavi and Iniesta when he has 0 league titles at age 31 😭 He is not even half the player David Silva was and David Silva was holding bench for Xavi and Iniesta
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@DoroChurchill @Play_Muziq @VERITY_HQ Life is unfair but it still continues. You can tell the short ladies who desire tall men that they are unreasonable. You can tell the poor ones who desire wealthier people that they are unreasonable too.
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@DavidB30731 @Kaypoisson1 During prime Xavi-Iniesta, he held the bench in the biggest tournament. That's all I have to say to you. No one is disrespecting him. He just wasn't on the level of both of those midfielders
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@Raphael_0rion @Kaypoisson1 Right. Prior to that he started in 4 matches of the 2008 Euros and 5 matches in the 2012 Euros. Also started in 2/3 of Spain's matches in the next world cup. He's Spain's 5th all time goal scorer and second for Assists. Don't disrespect the magician.
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