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Therationalmind

@Rationalmind__

Value compounding savage 🧠 | Roasting economic & Psychology biases | Breaking down Finance | Dicussing Modern Philosophy

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Therationalmind
Therationalmind@Rationalmind__·
A quality valuation analysis on $FICO Current price: ~$1,150. FY26 non GAAP EPS guide: $38.17.​ NTM P/E: ~29.6x.​​ TTM FCF: $718M.​​ TTM FCF yield: ~2.7%.​​ As you can see, $FICO is no longer priced like the untouchable monopoly it was in early January when the stock was around $1,666, or even above $2,000 A lot of the multiple compression has already happened, while the business itself is still growing at a very healthy rate.​​ Before we get into valuation, let’s look at why $FICO is such a good business BUSINESS QUALITY $FICO is really two businesses: Scores and Software. Scores is the crown jewel, and it is one of the best business models in the market.​ FICO says its score is the industry standard measure of consumer credit risk for over 35 years and is used by 90% of top U.S. lenders.​ That is not a normal software moat That is infrastructure.​ Q1 FY26 was strong: Revenue: $512M, up 16% YoY.​​ Scores revenue: $305M, up 29% YoY.​​ Software revenue: $207M, up 2% YoY.​ GAAP EPS: $6.61, up 8% YoY.​​ Non-GAAP EPS: $7.33, up 27% YoY.​​ The key point here...the Scores segment is still an absolute machine​ Q1 Scores operating margin was 88%.​ That is monopoly profitability...point And the mortgage business is still doing heavy lifting.​ FICO said mortgage originations were more than half of B2B revenue in recent quarters, and Q1 Scores growth was driven mainly by higher mortgage score unit price plus higher mortgage origination volume.​ The market tends to ignore the Software side, but there is something real there too.​ Platform ARR reached $303M in Q1, up 33% YoY, and platform DBNRR hit 122%.​ That matters because it gives $FICO a second compounding engine beyond the core score monopoly BALANCE SHEET This is where you should be honest: FICO does not have a pristine balance sheet.​ Cash and investments were $217.9M at Q1, while total liabilities were $3.66B, stockholders’ deficit was $(1.81)B, and leverage was 2.64x versus a covenant max of 3.5x.​ So this is not a cash rich fortress like some other compounders It is a highly cash generative business that uses leverage and buybacks aggressively That works beautifully when the moat is intact...It becomes much less comfortable when the market starts questioning pricing power CAPITAL ALLOCATION $FICO continues to lean hard into buybacks.​ In Q1 alone, it repurchased 95K shares for $163M at an average price of $1,707 per share.​​ Management explicitly shows a 20+ year history of continuous repurchases and states that share repurchases remain a key part of capital allocation.​ This has helped turbocharge EPS growth over time.​ But it also means you need to underwrite both the business and the leverage together.​ GUIDANCE FY26 guidance is still strong: Revenue: $2.35B, up 18% YoY.​ GAAP EPS: $33.47, up 22% YoY.​ Non-GAAP EPS: $38.17, up 24% YoY.​ Non-GAAP net income: $907M, up 28% YoY.​ That is the part the market is wrestling with The stock has sold off hard, but management is still guiding for a very strong year THE BEAR CASE The bear case is obvious: mortgage score competition. VantageScore and the bureaus are pushing hard, arguing that competition can lower lender costs, broaden access, and save hundreds of millions annually Equifax said more than 250 mortgage lenders were already taking advantage of its VantageScore offer, and more than 40 non GSE lenders were in production with only VantageScore scores for some portfolios That is why the market suddenly stopped treating FICO like a sacred cow If pricing gets structurally competed away, the multiple should stay lower than it was before. THE BULL CASE The bull case is that the market is overreacting to headline risk and underestimating how embedded FICO still is FICO is not sitting still: it launched its Mortgage Direct Licensing Program, says it is engaged with resellers representing about 90% of U.S. mortgage volume, and introduced pricing options designed to reduce reseller markup and lender breakage fees $FICO is also pushing innovation rather than just defending legacy pricing.​ It partnered with Plaid for the next generation of UltraFICO, expanded strategic reseller participation, and keeps pushing FICO 10T as the most predictive and inclusive score.​ So the key question is not if competition exist It is whether competition permanently breaks FICO’s economics, or just trims the excess while leaving the franchise dominant NOW TO VALUATION At today’s price of about $1,150, $FICO trades at roughly 29.7x FY26 non GAAP EPS guidance of $38.17. ​​ Rather than use Graham’s formula, I think the better way to value $FICO is to ask a simpler question: What does the stock look like if EPS compounds from here, and what multiple does the market pay at the end?​​ Let’s use FY26 non GAAP EPS guidance of $38.17 as the base.​ If FICO compounds EPS at 10% for 3 years: FY29 EPS would be about $50.8.​ At 25x P/E = $1,270 price target, or about 4% CAGR At 30x P/E = $1,524, or about 10% CAGR.​​ At 35x P/E = $1,778, or about 16% CAGR.​​ If FICO compounds EPS at 15% for 3 years: FY29 EPS would be about $58.1.​ At 25x P/E = $1,453, or about 8.6% CAGR.​​ At 30x P/E = $1,743, or about 15.4% CAGR.​​ At 35x P/E = $2,033, or about 21.5% CAGR.​​ If FICO compounds EPS at 20% for 3 years: FY29 EPS would be about $65.9.​ At 25x P/E = $1,648, or about 13.2% CAGR.​​ At 30x P/E = $1,978, or about 20.4% CAGR.​​ At 35x P/E = $2,308, or about 26.7% CAGR.​​ If FICO compounds EPS at 25% for 3 years: FY29 EPS would be about $74.6.​ At 25x P/E = $1,864, or about 18.0% CAGR.​​ At 30x P/E = $2,237, or about 25.5% CAGR.​​ At 35x P/E = $2,609, or about 32.1% CAGR.​​ What this tells me is simple: If $FICO becomes just a 10% grower and the market only pays 25x, upside is limited.​​ If $FICO can still grow EPS 15%–20% and hold a 30x multiple, returns are very attractive from here.​​ If the mortgage fears fade and the market re rates the stock closer to 35x, the upside becomes very meaningful So this is no longer a buy anything, it’s a monopoly stock It is now a quality business with controversy, which is usually where the interesting setups start. FINAL TAKE $FICO still has one of the best underlying businesses in the market: mission critical product,​ 88% Scores margins,​ recurring buybacks,​ strong FY26 guide,​ and a real second engine in Platform software.​ But the stock is no longer priced for perfection, because the market is finally questioning whether the moat is as wide as everyone assumed. That is exactly what makes the setup interesting. Today at around $1,150, $FICO looks less like a forever expensive compounder and more like a high quality franchise that may finally offer a real entry point.
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Thaddeus@ThaddeusRising·
@Rationalmind__ English: Selling the whole body now? 😂 Makes you wonder if Intel and AMD are sweating yet. Who else is riding this ARM hype train?
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Shay Boloor
Shay Boloor@StockSavvyShay·
$ARM is up over 16% today after unveiling plans to sell its own semiconductor chips for the first time. The move gives Arm a path to capture far more value in AI infrastructure through its own server CPUs instead of just collecting royalties with new the chip line projected to generate $15B in annual revenue within five years.
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Therationalmind
Therationalmind@Rationalmind__·
@CapexAndChill $MELI: 90% credit growth, record low NPLs...and people still think it’s a default apocalypse. Check the footnotes fellas
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CapexAndChill@CapexAndChill·
Some common misconceptions I see on fintwit. ❌ Claim: $MELI has $277 B in overdue debt and record default rates. ✅ Fact: MELI’s ENTIRE global credit portfolio is $12.5 B. Short-term credit card defaults just hit a historic LOW of 4.4%. ❌ Claim: 1 in 4 MELI users are defaulting. ✅ Fact: A March Central Bank of Argentina report found a ~23% default rate across the ENTIRE Argentine non-bank sector. People are falsely pinning this regional macro data exclusively on MELI. And even if MELI is the largest fintech in Argentina you have to consider the NIMAL. Appropriately pricing credit is not about minimizing default rates. It’s about maximizing yield. ❌ Claim: MELI is cutting off credit. ✅ Fact: MELI’s credit portfolio grew 90% YoY. They issued 2.8 million NEW credit cards in Q4 alone.
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Therationalmind
Therationalmind@Rationalmind__·
@StockChaser_ Revolut isn’t a bank. It’s the AWS of personal finance and it’s IPO ready at scale
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StockChaser@StockChaser_·
Revolut dropped numbers that look more like a top-tier software company than a bank 2025 results: •⁠ ⁠Revenue: $6.0B (+46% YoY) •⁠ ⁠Profit before tax: $2.3B (+57% YoY) •⁠ ⁠Net profit: $1.7B (+70% YoY) Metrics: •⁠ ⁠Customer balances: $67.5B (+66% YoY) •⁠ ⁠Retail customers: 68.3M (+30% YoY) •⁠ ⁠Business customers: 767k (+33% YoY) If Revolut IPOs soon… what multiple does the market give this? Fintech. Bank. Platform Pick your framework below #Stocks #Revolut
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Therationalmind
Therationalmind@Rationalmind__·
@danielgladis Spot on. $NU loan book is bigger with tighter underwriting (early NPLs ~6.7%), while $MELI aggressive credit push into merchants/low‑income has juicier growth but more asset quality risk. NU is a clean bank compounding. MELI its an Ecosystem rocket with credit nitro
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Daniel Gladiš
Daniel Gladiš@danielgladis·
Nubank vs. MercadoLibre is becoming a very interesting contrast. NU looks cheaper despite higher expected EPS growth, with a larger loan book and, apparently, cleaner underwriting. MELI is growing credit faster, but seems to be taking more asset-quality risk and pushing harder into lower-income and merchant segments. My takeaway: NU looks like the cleaner compounding story, MELI like the more aggressive growth story. In a tougher credit environment, cleaner usually wins. $NU $MELI
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Therationalmind
Therationalmind@Rationalmind__·
@StockSavvyShay Zuck’s telling his team: turn $1.5T into $9T or bust. That’s not a comp plan. That’s a bet on $Meta owning AI
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Shay Boloor
Shay Boloor@StockSavvyShay·
$META is rolling out a new stock option program that could pay top executives hundreds of millions if the company grows at an extremely aggressive pace. To earn the full payout, Meta’s market cap would need to surpass $9T within the next five years.
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Therationalmind
Therationalmind@Rationalmind__·
$MA at its lowest valuation in +5Y Opportunity?
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Serenity
Serenity@aleabitoreddit·
FYI: I went long on $ARM at $139. Genuinely a compelling long at $143B MC as markets shift more from training -> inference. Then $ARM AI CPUs cannibalize the market for inference and $NVDA market share. Especially as LLMs get more lightweight. The projections to $25B/revenue (5x revenue) are already insane to justify risk-reward.
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$ARM expects $15B in annual revenue from the the AGI CPU: "The company projects that the new chip business will generate over $15 billion in annual revenue" within the next 5 years. 5 times current revenues (~$25B revenue)... Arm probably deserves to be up more than 5% on this news if they're multiplying their revenue with a new product overnight?

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Capital Mindset
Capital Mindset@capital_mindset·
$FICO you can't make this stuff up. $10 is such a burden to me when I buy a home I can't stop laughing. @HawleyMO No conversation ever: Person 1: "I was going to buy that $500k home but... you know, I just couldn't make the numbers work." Person 2: "Why is that?" Person 1: "Oh well FICO increased their prices to $10 so now I can't afford it." Person 2: "Don't worry I read that Hawley is fast at work trying to lower the price. its a $500 million burden on a $55 Trillion market. Thats just crazy" Person 1: "Thank goodness they are taking it to FICO and not getting distracted with the 3%-6% agent fees and MLO fees. If he manages to get them to cut the price to $5 again I'll be able to afford that $500k house" Jokes aside, you can huff and puff all you want but for those who've worked in the space you know all too well how much of an uphill battle. The scores segment is made up of the following. Auto, Credit Card/Personal, Mortgage B2B, B2C. Mortgage is roughly 45% of b2b. Assuming a 20% haircut in the Mortgage would roughly impact FICO's scores revenue by 9% as an example. The segment is growing over 20%. For those who are shouting about the regulatory issues with the FHFA, you can better see the overall impact on score revenue. Play with the numbers on any imparement or lack there of in that segment. It looks fine. The next question is the valuation and what do we make of it. I think here its attractive just on what I think it could grow at. I'm looking for mid to low $900s to start building it up more. I really hope the narratives get "bad". Also side note, I received a great comment taking issue with my use of the word "simple" in the post below. I will elaborate. Simple vs complex to me is the amount of risk factors or moving parts. How "complex" or "simple" each individual moving part is, is subjective to the individual investor. Some pople just have more familiarity with things over other investors. To me FICO has clearly identifiable risks. Regulatory which is the more clear, and the more obscure upcomers in fintech. Depending on the person each of these will varry in their SUBJECTIVE complexity.
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$FICO is just so juicy to ignore here. Thesis is simple: you have pricing power with some multiple of volume as a factor to growth. Long-term rate sensitive only because of the volume question. Needs relatively low capital investment to grow and as a consequence will likely always demand a premium to market. The only long-term risks honestly are these closed-loop underwriting environments from some of these promising fintechs, but even then what they are tackling is not the lion's share of finance. FICO is probably going to maintain its status as the lingua franca of finance. I love the Pulte drama that I've called out several times before. Guy is hilariously attacking this company when they make up such a small % of the cost of a home purchase. To conclude, you get a nice pick up in volumes... well this thing is off to the races. But you don't NEED that to be the case. But it helps alot in the forward return potential.

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Therationalmind
Therationalmind@Rationalmind__·
@aleabitoreddit China’s VC offers are like sirens: $80M looks great until your IP is state owned and you’re detained at the airport. Stay or move in the West. Build there. The bots won’t save you
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Serenity
Serenity@aleabitoreddit·
Just a lesson to people in the West working in frontier technologies from AI, Robotics, Space, and Semis: Founders should **NEVER** set up businesses locally in China or try and get venture capital there. Especially: Do not set up JVs if your name isn't $TSLA or you're a hundred billion dollar company. There's too many anecdotal stories of coercion and forced detaining by the Chinese government in Silicon Valley. Too many founders get lured by $80M+ high fundraising amounts. Many exuberant "deals" with local entitles. Then build their technology there or visit there in person. But that paper capital doesn't matter when it gets locked down and your technology gets forced transferred to Chinese state run entities. No executives want to say this out loud since they're all scared of China or have business ties there, but that's the harsh reality. Hope all the bots don't come after me after this post.
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Braden Dennis 📊
Braden Dennis 📊@BradoCapital·
Up next to the @fiscal_ai Terminal... Connect your portfolio directly to your brokerage inside of the dashboard feature 🥳 Officially a one-stop shop for fundamental investors. - Syncs your portfolio daily - Tracks performance - Curates notifications Launches April 8th.
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Therationalmind
Therationalmind@Rationalmind__·
Why the hype on $ZETA? Lets see the current $ZETA sensitivity table ($16, ~24x FY26 consensus EPS of ~$0.67): 3yr EPS CAGR vs Exit P/E → 3yr IRR 10% EPS, 25x PE → ~$22 (11%/yr) 20% EPS, 30x PE → ~$35 (29%/yr) 25% EPS, 30x PE → ~$39 (34%/yr) 30% EPS, 35x PE → ~$51 (47%/yr) You’re paying for the AI martech flywheel. As you can see the potential returns are quite interesting following ther guidance...If you believe that, the dip is a gift
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Therationalmind@Rationalmind__·
@ManuInvests Congress is mad because FICO is finally charging monopoly prices. The market is mad because it briefly stopped paying a monopoly multiple. I know which side of that tantrum I’d rather be on
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Manu Invests@ManuInvests·
$FICO is trading near its lowest FWD PE valuation in a decade at 22x. On TTM GAAP PE, it is trading at 37x but is expected to grow EPS by ~40% in 2026, and near 30% for 3-5 years.. Headlines regarding a congressional investigation have pushed it lower. He sent similar letters in 2024 and 2025. "Hawley argues that the increasing cost of credit scores is straining homebuyers in an already unaffordable market." "The credit bureaus raised alarm last year over significant increases in FICO’s prices — from 60 cents to $10 over the last five years. Lenders say that those costs can inflate to hundreds of dollars added to a homebuyer’s mortgage." imo, these claims are exaggerated and disingenuous.
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Chanh Nguyen
Chanh Nguyen@Ballzy0902·
@Rationalmind__ @joecarlsonshow It doesn’t work that way lol. I work in a gas station. Redbull and Monster is still the kings. Thousand of energy drinks brand comes out every year- with much cheaper prices and better taste still cannot compete.
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Joseph Carlson
Joseph Carlson@joecarlsonshow·
A 24 pack for $17, or 70c a can for Costcos Kirkland Energy Dinks (200mg of caffeine) Most energy drinks are like $2 a can. If costco can gets the taste correct they will win huge market share here.
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Therationalmind
Therationalmind@Rationalmind__·
@aleabitoreddit Hyperscalers don’t care about your DCF. They care about who keeps the lasers flowing when the buildout hits warp speed
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Serenity
Serenity@aleabitoreddit·
$AXTI has now reached the legendary status of $69.69. Was expecting close to 10x returns in a year and half, not a few months… Everything from $AAOI to $SIVE are ridiculously outperforming. As for AXT valuations at $4B? Is it overvalued. Yes. Would hyperscalers pay $10B to secure their AI buildout? Yes. Lot of these bottlenecks can’t be valued with traditional metrics.
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Therationalmind
Therationalmind@Rationalmind__·
@sytaylor Revolut isn’t the Netflix of banking. It’s the JPMorgan of your phone...just arriving 20 years early
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Simon Taylor@sytaylor·
🚨 BREAKING: Revolut just posted $2.3 billion in profit. $6 billion revenue. 38% margins. Fifth consecutive year of profitability. 76% of neobanks still lose money. Revolut has 11 product lines each clearing $100M+ in annual revenue. - Subscriptions. - Cards. - FX. - Wealth. - Lending. - Business payments. They're a lot more than a card and an app, and very different to most US Neobanks They're a diversified financial services company that runs on a phone. --- The numbers underneath are worth digging into. - Credit portfolio doubled (+120%). - Customer balances hit $67.5bn (+66%). - Subscriptions grew 67% — their fastest revenue line. Revolut Business now does 16% of total income and grew 140%+ in Singapore, Australia, and the US. 63% of new customers still come through word of mouth. At 68 million customers. 1 in 5 working-age Europeans use it. --- The huge news of course is they're a BANK now. - The UK bank has been green lit. - Mexico live. - US national bank charter filed this month. 30+ banking licenses across 40 markets. --- Three years ago the debate was "can neobanks survive?" Revolut is becoming the most boring thing a fintech can become — boringly profitable, boringly diversified, boringly institutional. That's the highest compliment you can pay a bank. And yet, somehow with Revolut it's NEVER boring.
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