Raven

@CornTurkish If you say so.

@Raven1647557 I hope transgender people can get the mental help they need soon. Maybe then they’ll stop thinking they’re something they’re not. And hopefully stop killing themselves. Transgenders their biggest enemies are themselves.

Can’t make ts up.

@CornTurkish I'm so sorry you can't read English as well as me (and it's my 3rd language). I hope you can get a genuine education soon you fuckass.

@Raven1647557 This convo has no point. You keep changing up what you say. Go against proven medical facts. Contradict yourself and you don’t even understand basic biology. Don’t reply to me anymore. If you wanna support people poisoning themselves go ahead.

@CornTurkish I didn't acknowledge it as harmful.

@Raven1647557 Oh don’t get me wrong end of the day it’s their call. If they want to poison themselves so be it. I’m not gonna try and stop them Steroids use is mainly men injecting testosterone. If you can acknowledge this as harmful you must do the same with trans people. Else it’s hypocrisy

I'm in love with my best friend but I fear she's not into me 💔

@CornTurkish Denying basic "facts" because they are not true. I do not understand how the steroid arguments goes against the point of mine. Going against letting people do what they want with their own bodies is ridiculous. It does not effect your life at all.

@Raven1647557 Because the topic here is trans people. I am against those things too. So far all of your arguments have been denying basic facts and claiming I’m picking and choosing meanwhile I’m not. Also the steroid argument hurts your case about defending trans treatment even more

@CornTurkish Women get breast and bottom jobs, men take steroids, etc. People "mutilate" themselves in many ways and yet you only complain about one group.

@Raven1647557 Go against biology to the point they mutilate themselves.

@CornTurkish Trans people do not go against biology, you not understand it. It's deeper than the basics they teach in high schools.

@Raven1647557 Holy shit you’re actually retarded. Now you’re using biology as an arguments while trans people literally go against it.

@CornTurkish Somebody did not learn an education. Biology is deeper than the basics. Stop obsessing about other people's genitalia.

@Raven1647557 It is. Basic rule of thumb is exceptions don’t deny the norm.

@CornTurkish Basic biology can't cover sex due to numerous different health complications such as Intersex and Swyer Syndrome. Also, many women are born without ovaries or uteruses, so you're here invalidating those with conditions. Sex is not defined by genitalia or chromosomes.

@Raven1647557 XY chromosome is male and XX is female. A man has a penis & testicles, a woman a vagina & ovaries. That last argument is just nonsense. If someone removed their arm you would rightfully call them crazy. Why should it be any different with genitals?

@CornTurkish And what defines a person as a man and a woman? Oh wait, yeah, societal stereotypes. Gender is a construct, and medical care is medical care. "Body parts" are removed, modified and changed, people are injected with all sorts for numerous reasons. It's all valid.

@Raven1647557 It is. You think you’re something youre not. Then injecting yourself with all kinds of bs that isn’t good for you to try and belike the opposite sex. The truly deluded of em go as far as removing bodyparts. What part of that seems sane to you? A man is a man & a woman a woman

@CornTurkish What kind of ridiculous mindset is "Being transgender is a mental illness"?

@Raven1647557 They don’t kill themselves because they get the treatment. They kill themselves because theyre mentally ill. What kind of ridiculous mindset is that “Oh give me what I want else I’ll myself.” No sane adult thinks like this

@CornTurkish Because they're significantly less likely to kill themselves?

@Raven1647557 Noway youre this propagandized. How is is lifesaving if trans people still die in way higher rates?

@CornTurkish I am comparing them, because they're both lifesaving in their own way.

@Raven1647557 What positives does it have? Trans people still live way shorter lifespans Yeah you helped them in their delusions for a bit longer some positive shit you did. Also mf is comparing trans treatment to cancer treatment

@CornTurkish When the positives outweigh the negatives of a treatment, it's a positive thing. Much like cancer treatments etc.

@Raven1647557 * Proven medical risks * Still insists it’s healthy * Calls others retarded

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@CornTurkish @Quartz_Tower @ValidHazelTrans It's literally proven that hormones significantly improve the quality of life. At least you're against something decent, birth control pills are so full of harmful shit.

@Raven1647557 @Quartz_Tower @ValidHazelTrans If you set the bar that low then everything is gonna sound “good” I’m also against birth control pills so I’m not one of those hypocritical men. Although thankfully you see more ppl being against that too.

Am I the only one who thinks this looks very similar to the propaganda art that was used in ww2 Germany

@CornTurkish @Quartz_Tower @ValidHazelTrans Better than them killing themselves. A majority of medications have nasty side effects, especially things like Birth Control, yet men don't complain about that.

@Raven1647557 @Quartz_Tower @ValidHazelTrans • ↑ Blood clots, stroke, heart attack (esp. estrogen in trans women) • Reduced bone density • Metabolic changes: weight gain, insulin resistance, worse lipids • Possible ↑ hormone-related cancers • Erythrocytosis (testosterone) → clot risk must be a coincidence tho

@CornTurkish @Quartz_Tower @ValidHazelTrans How so? Where's your proof?

@Raven1647557 @Quartz_Tower @ValidHazelTrans Just outright lying.

@CornTurkish @Quartz_Tower @ValidHazelTrans Actually, hormones massively improve the wellbeing of transgender patients.

@Raven1647557 @Quartz_Tower @ValidHazelTrans You know well why that it is different especially the last one One is trying to improve your health. Trans people however are directly having a negative effect on it It’s not like cancerpatient wants to hop on HRT. He’s forced to and he is trying to return to his before state