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@DOUBLEM1NT_ been good man

@Dannyyyyyyyy he was alr mid but hes gonna be garbage now w

Them reverting Hawkeye back to 250 hp was lowkey my fav change from the first patch ngl One tap sniper shouldn’t ever be 275 hp lmao

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@ronin_ramen17 @EmmaFrostsPuppy @henryyyyy07 @imsharkingit well yea id say any gambit worth his salt should have a dash to get out of phoenix ult?

@EmmaFrostsPuppy @RealHorus2 @henryyyyy07 @imsharkingit We’re talking about how much damage potential Phoenix has. You said she can only take out mantis. Which I said gambit is on the same boat. Both of whom grant mobility, also gambit having both dashes and big easy the exact moment Phoenix ults is not always reliable is it not

the concept of phoenix’ ult being “pretty weak”

@EmmaFrostsPuppy @ronin_ramen17 @henryyyyy07 @imsharkingit thanks for saving me the response lmao

@ronin_ramen17 @RealHorus2 @henryyyyy07 @imsharkingit The focus was about Phoenix ult, and gambit has insane movement in his ult, so how would you expect it to even hit him directly? You can focus Gambit in his ult to kill him, but it was about Phoenix ult one shotting.

@DOUBLEM1NT_ show me

@ronin_ramen17 @henryyyyy07 @EmmaFrostsPuppy @imsharkingit forgot but he can just dash out of it with his 2 screen length dashes

@RealHorus2 @henryyyyy07 @EmmaFrostsPuppy @imsharkingit If only there was another top meta support who’s permabanned who can also be one shot in his Ult

not only is the animation very telegraphed,but you can sttaight up dash out of it, there is a delay betwen the time the flame is on the ground and it rises, only the rising flame stuns. if you get out of it in time, you just take the damage of the flame on the ground and dont get stunned

@salmoona_ @X9558430327378X well im in practice rn and yes you can dash out of it

these are the people the devs balance the game off btw

@DOUBLEM1NT_ wsp qt

@salmoona_ @X9558430327378X ima test this when i get again im not completely 100% sure but i never get hit by it during 1v1s lol maybe im mistaken?

@salmoona_ @X9558430327378X now OBVIOUSLY i dont waqnna sound like a spoiled mf as i said before it is an excellent ability that helps a lot with her poke too, alllows her to land hits and chunk single targets from long range too but its not the end of the world if she keeps it

@RealHorus2 @X9558430327378X not at all because she can shift her camera during the the delay, so it still lands at the exact area her crosshair is, so it makes 0 difference

@salmoona_ @X9558430327378X and the flame is on the ground so you know shes casted it too (i am 99.9999% sure of this but not 100% even tho i have like 80 hrs on her)

@salmoona_ @X9558430327378X nope, after she straight up casts it, theres a delay before the stun takes place and you can get out of the way in the meantime if you dash

@X9558430327378X @salmoona_ bucky has his hook/uppercut most of these heroes have their signature ability that makes them strong that shld be baited out in phoenix case you can argue its 2 with her shift tbf

as i said its a great ability but for the purposes for which phoenix uses it (on clumped up target to trigger chain explosions theere isnt anything necessarily toxic ab ut ofc if ur a spidey and you get ur ult canceled by it then ofc that can be aids but every hero has this sort of bullshit ability really hela's stun is worse tbf hawkeye can parry projectiles widow has a 5 m radius lock on kick brawlers like iron fist and dd can straight up immune damage and effect namor bubble cant be broken and makes him invulnerable

@salmoona_ @X9558430327378X any hero w mobility can dodge it

@RealHorus2 @X9558430327378X yeah but that changes nothing lol

@salmoona_ @X9558430327378X its hitscan but theres a delay before the stun effect takes place

@X9558430327378X @RealHorus2 forgot to mention the stun is hitscan 😭

ofc do keep in mind that if you nerf the stun and increase the cd and give her a trail so she can be tracked in shift and give her bigger damage falloff aswell she becomes a hero u have to be aggressive and play at close/mid ranges at while not potentially having the required tools to survive

@RealHorus2 @salmoona_ The mark can stay since that’s her thing. It’s either the stun, the slow, or both that need to go, on top of the cooldown increase, 12 seconds would be ideal