Nelson Chung

That magical moment.

@surskitmaxxing @BlackBlessedLDS The growth in converts is real. One can just talk to missionaries. Other denominations have paradoxical numbers right now in levels of devotion. High in some categories, low in others.

@BlackBlessedLDS The church’s numbers (that can’t really be vetted) say incredible, historic growth across the board while independent numbers (like PEW) don’t support that. I’m rather skeptical. Since we can’t see their numbers or how they’re derived, it seems like an easy way to “faith promote”

The Church is declining everyone. Slowly but surely. VBC said so.

@DanEllsworthVA You can choose between Trump’s first comment (1.8M) or his second comment (1.9M) or Lancet article (200K dead). Like I said, Health Ministry only counts IDENTIFIABLE deaths (name, ID#) Doesn’t include people missing or under the rubble. Just like the IDF database.

@RealNelsonChung The Gaza "health ministry" claims only about 73k dead in the whole conflict, and yet you choose an offhand remark by Trump as your source- again, as part of the game. I think we're done here?

Israel Derangement Syndrome is like reverse CBT- it's part of a mental toolset that keeps people emotionally underdeveloped, and incurious about how the world actually works. If you want to keep people stupid and weak, you feed them IDS.

@DanEllsworthVA He has to produce some reason combatant deaths are biased downward more than civilian deaths.

@DanEllsworthVA Gaza's population was 2.3 - 2.4 million before the war, and when Trump took office he said the population was 1.8 million. That's over 400K dead. If both combatants and civilians are biased downward, that wouldn't change the %.

@DanEllsworthVA He went to Gaza escorted by the IDF. He only saw what Israel lets him see. Israel won't let foreign journalists in independently (even Russia is better on this).

@RealNelsonChung Simply not true, and there is plenty of video and other evidence, along with eyewitness accounts. x.com/MrWinMarshall/…

@DanEllsworthVA Most of the times Israel claimed so turned out to be bogus, e.g. Hamas command and control center under al-Shifa hospital. Israel houses Mossad and IDF HQ inside civilian areas too.

@RealNelsonChung If civilian energy infrastructure is funding and fueling Russia's war machine, then it is a fair target. Just like if homes and offices in Gaza are full of weaponry and traps and entrances to tunnels, they are fair targets.

@DanEllsworthVA That’s a war crime if there are no military targets.

@RealNelsonChung Right now, Ukraine is targeting civilian infrastructure in Russia. They are very hopeful that this will result in the people of Russia turning against their evil ruler. It is not genocide, and I am 100% supportive.

@DanEllsworthVA “Targeting civilian infrastructure “ is written in the policy. What kind of people do you think live in civilian infrastructure? One need not be a Marxist to arrive @ this conclusion (see Mearsheimer & Walt for a realist angle) I was trained in classical economics at BYU.

@RealNelsonChung And you purposefully redefine the strategy as "targeting civilians" because it furthers your goals. Some of us see the game.

@DanEllsworthVA Those were made by people in policymaking roles. Eg Smotrich can make the governing coalition collapse if his genocidal dreams aren’t fulfilled. And you can see the results on the ground—Gaza is flattened (meets article 2c of Geneva conventions). PM invoked Amalek.

@RealNelsonChung There are a few quotes all over the Internet, yes. And I can find Americans -- even at high levels of our government -- who have expressed really extreme views. The fact that those views have been expressed by Americans does not make them "America's intentions."

@DanEllsworthVA I said targeting civilians to get them to turn against their regime is terrorism by definition.

@RealNelsonChung I have read closely, and that is an intended outcome, yes. Just like any number of military strategies. But you said its purpose is the targeting of civilians.

@DanEllsworthVA One can make that case

@RealNelsonChung Is Hamas genocidal?

@DanEllsworthVA Israel has made their genocidal intentions known. It’s all over the internet.

There has never been a greater effort to avoid civilian casualties than what Israel undertook against Gaza. Genocidal regimes don't drop leaflets and warn people and give them evacuation corridors. And notice how your ideology requires you to lie by mentioning the "Dahiya doctrine" as an example of "targeting civilians." Israel decided that it was acceptable to target civilian infrastructure because it is repurposed by their enemies for those enemies' genocidal campaigns against Israel. If Israel's enemies would keep their weaponry and combatants out of civilian spaces, there would be no civilian casualties in those spaces. IDS requires constant, incessant lying.

@DanEllsworthVA “There has never been a greater effort to avoid civilian casualties than what Israel undertook against Gaza” 😂 we have American doctors returning from Gaza with MRIs of kids sniped in the chest and head. We have IDF soldier testimonies saying they’re permitted to shoot anyone

@DanEllsworthVA And yes, Hamas is bad too.

Kill a people in whole or in part? Then Hamas committed genocide in Oct 2023, so even if you were to agree that Israel's actions have been genocide (which is ridiculous), the most you could say is that they are a kind of "defensive genocide". Also, in the definitions being applied to criticize Israel, there is really no difference between normal war (even strategies and tactics of defensive warfare) and genocide. The word has been defined tactically, in the service of Jew-hatred.

@DanEllsworthVA You got half the definition right. The Geneva Convention definition is intent to kill a people “in whole or in part.” Israeli leaders have made the “attempt” part pretty clear in word and action. There has never been a genocide where all people were killed.

And they are wrong. They always avoid the very most basic definition of genocide (a word meaning the killing or attempted killing of an entire people). There is a reason why they avoid the obvious definition and instead pivot to convoluted academic constructs. x.com/Aizenberg55/st…

@DanEllsworthVA Genocide has a legal definition under the Geneva Convention agreements.

And all of them are wrong. The "genocide" accusation toward Israel is an ideologically-motivated, antisemitic fiction. When applied to Israel, the term "Genocide" is creatively redefined (by Neo-Marxist academics using a postmodernist linguistic toolset) to have none of its normal meaning whatsoever. And there's this... 😂 x.com/Aizenberg55/st…