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Unapologetically Catholic. Confronting error and proclaiming truth where faith and public life collide—through Christ, ordinary people are made extraordinary.

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OrdinaryCatholic
OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
@BishopBarron publicly rebukes @CarriePrejean1... calling her claims “absurd” & “preposterous.” But offers no clear doctrinal correction. No precise error. No explanation of where she departed from the faith. And now some people are using his words to act faithful Catholics🧵
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OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
@Nance726 @Nance726 what are the chances that this comment would occur verbatim in your replies? It’s obvious the zio-bots are all active!
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The Honey Badger
The Honey Badger@Nance726·
I wish that all of our Bishops and Cardinals had the heart and moral courage of Cardinal Pizzaballa to tell the truth no matter.
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OrdinaryCatholic
OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
@BishopBarron publicly rebukes @CarriePrejean1... calling her claims “absurd” & “preposterous.” But offers no clear doctrinal correction. No precise error. No explanation of where she departed from the faith. And now some people are using his words to act faithful Catholics🧵
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OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
The most moral people in the world who would NEVER persecute Christians 🙄 What will the Christian zionists say about this? Crickets…
EWTN News Nightly@EWTNNewsNightly

Tensions rise in Taybeh—the last fully Christian town in the region—as settlers have reportedly taken control of a cement factory and quarry, with witnesses saying an Israeli flag was raised. Auxiliary Bishop Shomali of the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem discusses the situation.

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OrdinaryCatholic
OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
@_Leila @cnalive Both Bishop Barton and Cardinal Dolan were no shows at that hearing… This doesn’t apply to you, but It’s funny how all these zionists act like experts but have never watched the hearing. They just parrot talking points.
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Leila✥Marie✥Lawlerن@_Leila·
@cnalive Did you get a transcript of what the Bishop said in committee? Did he ask about the definition of antisemitism they were working with?
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Catholic News Agency@cnalive·
Winona-Rochester Bishop Robert Barron has criticized what he describes are "absurd" claims from Carrie Prejean Boller that she was booted from the Presidential Commission on Religious Liberty because of her Catholic beliefs. catholicnewsagency.com/news/270665/bi…
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OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
@BraveReport @Life4all86 @BishopBarron And these people call themselves Christians? But only see death through one eye! Christ see’s all…and I imagine He will not look upon these people with favor upon their day of judgement!
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Brave Report
Brave Report@BraveReport·
@RealOrdCatholic @Life4all86 @BishopBarron Yup, she didn’t watch it. She thought Carrie was the only person on the panel wearing a “foreign pin.” She had no idea they three other commissioners were wearing an Israel flag pin, nor did she care.
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Bishop Robert Barron
Bishop Robert Barron@BishopBarron·
Over the past several weeks, Carrie Prejean Boller has complained that she was removed from the Presidential Commission on Religious Liberty because of her Catholic beliefs, and she has called out myself and other Catholic members of the commission for not defending her. This is absurd. Mrs. Prejean Boller was not dismissed for her religious convictions but rather for her behavior at a gathering of the Commission last month: browbeating witnesses, aggressively asserting her point of view, hijacking the meeting for her own political purposes. The Catholic position on matters of “Zionism,” to which I fully subscribe, is as follows: all forms of antisemitism are to be unequivocally condemned; the state of Israel has a right to exist; but the modern nation of Israel does not represent the fulfillment of Biblical prophecies and hence does not stand beyond criticism. If Mrs. Prejean Boller were dismissed for holding these beliefs, it is difficult to understand why I am still a member of the Commission. To paint herself as a victim of anti-Catholic prejudice or to claim that her religious liberty has been denied is simply preposterous.
Carrie Prejean Boller@CarriePrejean1

Your Excellency, you shared with me through text message to me that my position reflects Catholic teaching, especially that the modern state of Israel is not the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy. That is the position I expressed, and yet I was removed from the Religious Liberty Commission. Respectfully, it is difficult not to conclude that this commission does not truly care about religious liberty when a Catholic can be removed for faithfully articulating the Church’s teaching. Asking me to deny Catholic teaching in order to satisfy a political ideology is itself a violation of my religious freedom. As Pope Leo XIII warned, “To recoil before an enemy, or to keep silence when from all sides such clamor is raised against truth, is the part of a coward.” Whether I serve on this Commission or not, my voice will only grow louder for those being persecuted for their faith. I believe this appointment was ordained by God, and I will not abandon my Catholic faith to keep a position on a commission that has abandoned its mission. If my religious freedom is not protected, then no one’s is. Please speak up. Please stand up for Catholics. Be brave, Bishop Barron. The world needs brave men.

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OrdinaryCatholic
OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
@Life4all86 @BraveReport @BishopBarron Admit it, you didn’t watch the hearing… Just like other zionists on X you parrot the same old talking points without providing a single verbatim example of your accusations! The only people throwing a temper tantrum are whinny little betas blowing their antisemite dog whistle.
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Kdee@Life4all86·
@BraveReport @BishopBarron She threw a temper tantrum, interrupted and misrepresented things her fellow panel members were saying in the moment, didn’t engage in good faith, wore a Palestinian pin, and said Candace had *NEVER* said anything antisemitic- a gross lie. She was a mess and embarrassment
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OrdinaryCatholic
OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
@BraveReport Thank you 🙏 Unfortunately this article won’t reach more people, especially Catholics, because ever since I started speaking about fulfillment theology and speaking out against israel and zionism, my reach has gone from an average of 20k-150k+ views a post to 250 views (if).
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Brave Report
Brave Report@BraveReport·
Well put! This speaks to the true role of Bishops. We should not stand for any sacred and guiding role being used for the political purposes of a foreign ideology and country at the expense of leading of the souls of the faithful. It tarnishes our faith, confuses people publicly, and has the potential to turn away more potential and current members of the Church.
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OrdinaryCatholic
OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
@RedEaglePatriot @CarriePrejean1 Actually Catholics should never celebrate the death of others… Netanyahu and mueller are no exceptions… We hope that all people find their way to Christ before death! Crazy people celebrate death…this is not a good look for @realDonaldTrump sadly…
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OrdinaryCatholic
OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
@BraveReport @CatholicPods @PhilOutsider @CarriePrejean1 Yep exactly…instead he focused on personalities… That’s one of my points Why not instead focus on clergy who cause scandal daily or politicians who are engulfed in grave sin? Versus a newly catechized laywoman who literally said NOTHING that wasn’t Catholic!
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Thomas Mirus
Thomas Mirus@CatholicPods·
We actually do have a serious "convert problem" in the media. I know some people say we should never ever question the sincerity of converts, but at this point we have a steady pipeline of high-profile converts immediately causing scandal and division, and it has to be addressed. The Church has a long tradition of scrutinizing and imposing disciplines on catechumens and new Catholics. Catechumens in certain disapproved professions used to have to quit their job before they could be baptized. We are not historically an unconditional "all are welcome" Church. If a public figure is entering the Church it should be made very clear to her that becoming Catholic does not qualify her to teach the faith publicly. Of course this raises wider questions about laypeople "teaching" but at the very least there should be some kind of probation period.
Carrie Prejean Boller@CarriePrejean1

I was asked to resign in August for the same reasons I was removed in February. You knew about this because you called me immediately after I sent you this email, and you were in shock. Do you really want to stick with this story, Your Excellency?

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OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
@CatholicPods @PhilOutsider @CarriePrejean1 Read my substack I explain why @BishopBarron public condemnation was in error. I would have to believe he knows this too he’s a good man & Catholic…we’re all fallible & sinners…he’s no different And to be fair @CarriePrejean1 was egging him on publicly @realordinarycatholic/note/p-191669314?r=7f1h6g&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">substack.com/@realordinaryc…
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Thomas Mirus
Thomas Mirus@CatholicPods·
And btw, he didn't claim she was wrong about doctrine. He didn't come after her. SHE called him out publicly. He corrected her narrative in calling him out. How long do you think a new convert should wait after baptism before they start publicly nagging and lecturing bishops? 5 minutes? 10 minutes?
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OrdinaryCatholic
OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
@CatholicPods @PhilOutsider @CarriePrejean1 Ya I know what probation means.., “You’re not worthy to be part of something until “someone” get’s to decide whether you are worthy or not.” It can also be restrictions. Oddly, you sound like the pharisee’s that Jesus Christ always corrected. What’s next, no Mass on Sundays?
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OrdinaryCatholic
OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
@BraveReport @ginnydmm @BishopBarron @CarriePrejean1 It’s not even a “disagreement”…all we’re doing is staying faithful to what the Catholic Church has taught for 2000 years… What they are essentially saying is they want religious freedom so long as the only religion that has freedom is theirs (zionism)!
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Brave Report
Brave Report@BraveReport·
@RealOrdCatholic @ginnydmm @BishopBarron @CarriePrejean1 Amen. So tired of being told disagreeing with other points of view is “hate,” while the people on the other side feel morally justified and don’t consider their own oppositional argument “hate.” It’s hypocrisy at its finest.
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OrdinaryCatholic
OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
@CatholicPods @PhilOutsider @CarriePrejean1 Hmm let’s see… St Ambrose: public figure from outside the Church…became a Doctor of the Church & taught the faith St Augustine, St Gregory…both Doctors…should I go on? Should their voices be suppressed/on probation Nothing Carrie said in committee conflicted with doctrine
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OrdinaryCatholic
OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
@CatholicPods @PhilOutsider @CarriePrejean1 Uhm didn’t you say this? “If a public figure is entering the Church it should be made very clear to her that becoming Catholic does not qualify her to teach the faith publicly…but at the very least there should be some kind of probation period.”
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OrdinaryCatholic
OrdinaryCatholic@RealOrdCatholic·
@ginnydmm @BishopBarron @CarriePrejean1 First, this statement is not ex cathedra…second, ALL HATE, including the hate y’all spew towards Catholics who reject Zionism, is against God…third, Catholics should and can reject zionism as well as the belief a single group of people are entitled to land & preferred by God!
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Gina@ginnydmm·
From the Pope “Speaking to the Jewish community in Rome, Pope John Paul II made crystal clear the teaching of the Catholic Church on 1) the brotherhood of Jews and Christians; 2) the sinfulness of anti-Jewish hatred and prejudice; and 3) the irrevocability of God's covenant with the Jewish people: "The Jewish religion is not 'extrinsic' to us, but in a certain way is 'intrinsic' to our own religion. With Judaism therefore we have a relationship which we do not have with any other religion. You are our dearly beloved brothers and, in a certain way, you are our elder brothers. On the basis of this brotherhood renewed by Christ, the Church rejects every form of discrimination and anti-Semitism. She condemns them as contrary to the very spirit of Christianity. She deplores all hatred, persecutions, displays of anti-Semitism directed against the Jews at any time and by anyone.... The covenant between God and the Jewish people has never been revoked. 'The gifts and the call of God are irrevocable' (Rom 11:29).” x.com/mccormickprof/…
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