@Inky61606257 @Deeliarts Gianni did clarify that he still supports Ren because as far as everything is right now, SA still happened at RDC.
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@Deeliarts From reading, Gianni was literally everyone else: fueled by emotions and thinking later. Luckily my GOAT realized it and is trying to apologize, like the GOAT he is.
People are develing deeper into her doc and are finding inconsistency.
And maybe seals dox is helping idk.
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Wait huh?--- What's going on with Pressure now? Is Ren evil now? Why is Gianni apologizing? What the hell did I miss? <:[
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@Ahhly_97 @JinnKneki @JaxeThepump Its good to have a proof reader or a second opinion on any document or any type of writing..
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@JinnKneki @JaxeThepump @Replikangle171 Why would u need help in a story U lived, not everyone else? Isn't that weird??
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U are literally ruining someone's life and u day "I'm not perfect, sorry!!" Get out of here
BowlofColdSoup@BowlofColdStew
Ren inconsistency n2 Again, I'm on her discord, as I previously stated. Why did she specify on her discord that she hadn't taken down the document, and it was mass reported, meanwhile, she said on her YouTube that it had been taken down?
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@Ahhly_97 @oxymedone That is pretty normal for victims of SA... its a far more complex thing to deal with. Its normal for that kind of response.
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@Replikangle171 @oxymedone She told him a lot of times she wanted him, fantasize ab him etc. And then in her document she says "I lied, I never fantasized about zeal once". So why would u lie with that? Attention seeking, simply
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@Ahhly_97 @oxymedone Where has Ren lied? Genuine here need to jog my memory.
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@Replikangle171 @oxymedone I can understand mistakes, but cutting information is not a mistake, lying is not a mistake.
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@JaxeThepump @Ahhly_97 Its going to be emotionally charged, Its a document discussing SA. Theres no way to be sterile in your wording.
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@Replikangle171 @Ahhly_97 Not trying to blame but like, writing the most important doc in your life that could and had ruined someones life is the worst thing you can do while being emotionally charged, at least doing it by your own
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@oxymedone @Ahhly_97 Thats not a realistic expectation, even the best proof read work can have mistakes. Even then she stated she's going back through it to update the information.
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@Replikangle171 @Ahhly_97 writing a doc which has potential to ruin someone's whole life should be flawless
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@therealtiredtv Just a wording thing. These dont contradict eachother.
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so which is it ren, did you take it down or did google take it down
I too noticed this inconsistency I'm starting to suspect that neither of these people are trustworthy to listen to
with all of the cherry picking and inconsistencies maybe everyone is evil
BowlofColdSoup@BowlofColdStew
Ren inconsistency n2 Again, I'm on her discord, as I previously stated. Why did she specify on her discord that she hadn't taken down the document, and it was mass reported, meanwhile, she said on her YouTube that it had been taken down?
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@tasterisksymbol Different situations?
Huge document detailing all of it, then Zeal releases a horrible initial response on top of his video, it seemed lile there would be nothing else to wait for as he already did his side at the time.
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Yet none of you waited for zeals response. Just, wow.
BubBud@bub_bud_
Hello, I'd really appreciate it if everyone waited for ren's new document before drawing final conclusion. According to ren, other people who were harassed by zeal are contributing their own experience to it. That's most likely going to add important context and show a pattern.
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@privrelaytopic @Fyodordost49589 You keep bringing the court argument which is not what I'm saying or speaking on.
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@Replikangle171 @Fyodordost49589 That kind of reaction could be brought up by the defense to argue things like:
the person is unreliable
their story is inconsistent
they react emotionally rather than factually
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ren said she was SA but on the next line she's calling zeal a rapist? Why is she going aggressive after he posted a doc? Wasn't she acting all nice on hers towards him? Specially on that last line or we're just going to say "it's her mental state that made her like this #pressure
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@privrelaytopic @Fyodordost49589 It really doesn't? I'd be a bit more shocked if she was completely monotone and emotionless in response. I think its more than reasonable to have an emotional reaction to whats happening considering what happened to her.
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@Replikangle171 @Fyodordost49589 Oh it absolutely does. It shows that she acts irrational under pressure, which means a lot of what she said in the document could have been a result of that. This is how it’ll be seen in court.
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@privrelaytopic @Fyodordost49589 I am not arguing that this reaction was the 'right' way to do it, but i dont think it means anything to her credibility like people say.
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@Replikangle171 @Fyodordost49589 It’s also unprofessional, which is incredibly important as this case will eventually go to court, where all material will need to be top notch. In this case, she is ruining her credibility.
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@privrelaytopic @Fyodordost49589 At the same time, its not a crime to be emotional over trauma.
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@Replikangle171 @Fyodordost49589 The fun thing about the internet is that you get tons of time to think before you speak.
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@Comisethereal1 @AbyssticMyst I think you underestimate the amount of people who don't fall into a bystander during situations, but regardless the other commenter made a good response already
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@Replikangle171 @AbyssticMyst The problem is that people in the next room would had heard her if she really did
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Ren stated she screamed no over and over, but then said yes to PLEASE YOU, SO YOU WOULDN'T BE MAD AT HER.
"Consent cannot be retracted 6 months later"
The "consent" in question was already forced, and wasn't there to begin with.
Urbanshade@UrbanshadeRblx
docs.google.com/document/d/1_6… Additional Context and Clarification Regarding Recent Allegations
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@Comisethereal1 Flirting and being lovey dovey isnt a point against her experience. Its a very complex event to handle and is extremely traumatic, it is something that follows you your whole life and that people process differently.
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Stay neutral about the #pressure situation both sides have obvious inconsistencies like Ren contradicting her own proofs and flirting with Zeal, and showing voice messages of her being happy like a puppy after and Zeal saying that you can't retract consent after 6 months
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@Comisethereal1 @AbyssticMyst I'm a bit concerned if thats enough for you especially if the other person starts screaming no.
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@AbyssticMyst So flirting and asking him to fuck her isn't consent.
Understood twitter doesn't know much.
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@Beeina_tuxedo @Evilponyweb96 This is clearly a joke icl
Not the best choice pr wise but come on
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@Evilponyweb96 Having the “fuck fandom” attitude while the fandom is the reason your show’s finale is going to more theaters is certainly a choice
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@Misc45173105 @herrlawyers Of course murder can be, that wasnt my intention to say. It is why I added thr historical context for the difference, as murder has generally been taken seriously throughout history.
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@Replikangle171 @herrlawyers Murder is very personal as well. That's why the spouse is always the first investigated. The decision to take the person they committed to's life, I'd argue is just as if not more personal as rape. Just food for thought
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i dont think anyone realized this was a genuine question. why arent you allowed
、 🌘🪻@herrlawyers
why are you not allowed to like fictional sexual assaulters but you can like fictional genociders and murderers and dictators
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@herrlawyers -is babying those actions or acting lile theyre just a normal character. Due to the historical context it just comes off differently to someone who is a fan of a genocidal maniac character.
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@herrlawyers someone like Homelander. There is also the historical factor, for much of human history SA was not treated seriously, its only been treated as such and its evils punished in the western world in very recent times. It can be seen as going back to those times when someone-
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