Seamus Robber Baron

@DaninCyprus Just do like Daniella Weiss, say ok fine we’re a ethnoreligious state based on the Torah/Talmud, we don’t care about your enlightenment era value system. As she Daniella says, why try to lie about it.

@DaninCyprus Now, you can say you disagree with these values, that’s fine. And obvious to be honest, Israel is largely modeled on Nazi Germany at least in terms of treatment of undesirable inhabitants in occupied lands. But pretending to still be a western values country, is ridiculous.

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@DaninCyprus Incorrect, been in use do the entire region since at least 2400 BC by the Greeks, but also irrelevant. Tyranny of the majority is not democracy, not in the western values sense anyway.

@RobberSeamus The word "Palestine" did not existed 5,000 years ago and as we have very well documented in dozens of previous messages, the Arab nation which adopted that name was invented in the 1960s. Under Israeli law, they do not qualify for citizenship just as I don't under Norwegian law.

@DaninCyprus Gays, communists, Jews, gypsies, minority group by minority group. Civilized nations on the other hand, ensure individual rights and equality under the law regardless of labels the majority put on people.

@DaninCyprus Problem with that is that it’s tyranny of the majority. It means, if a plurality of Israelis vote that you should be stripped of rights because of som whatever label you fit into, then you’re supposed to just accept it. This is how Germany started, stripping people of rights.

@DaninCyprus A state is not a club, it is the sum of the people on the land it claims sovereignty over.

@DaninCyprus Only free to one ethnicity. Like Nazi Germany was free and fun for ethnic Germans and not so many others.

@DaninCyprus My country has given full citizenship to anyone who’s been here for multiple generations. As does every other civilized country. It’s a basic western fundamental principle. Europeans haven’t done shit like that sine we got rid of Hitler.

@RobberSeamus That is factually false but regardless it doesn't change anything. You cannot impose on a democratic state who they give their citizenship to. If you want to give them citizenship give them your citizenship, not someone else's.

@DaninCyprus Bullshit, no civilized state denies citizenship to people who were there before the state was even created. There are two exceptions, two very dark countries you don’t want to compare to or use as reference.

@RobberSeamus You love to require Israel do things, especially things that would lead to its destruction, that no other country in the world would even consider doing. I've pointed this out numerous times, clear yo any impartial Observer, that you are purely motivated by anti-semitism.

@DaninCyprus But within that framework, everything is fine. Ethnic cleansing, genocides, holocaust, anything goes. That’s the cost for supporting the current path of Israel, you also indirectly accept anything like that.

@DaninCyprus If it wants to follow international law or basic western values and norms, it’s either that or separate them into their own state along the 1967 borders. As a genocidal ethnonationalist state like Germany was, sure they can do whatever they can get away with. That’s nature.

@DaninCyprus The 5.3 million were there before the state was even established. They’ve been there longer than the state has existed.

@RobberSeamus Israel is one of the most moral countries in the world & allowed Arabs to live within the borders of Israel on the condition that they do not commit violent crimes against innocent people. As you have pointed out two million Arabs even received full citizenship...

@DaninCyprus Forget about the fake ones who pledge jihad. The women and children and all the civilian men who are apolitical, how about that. Like the two million that already got citizenship. They’re doctors and judges you keep saying.

@RobberSeamus And it would be suicidal, which of course I know you advocate uniquely for Israel, to give citizenship to tens of thousands of people who openly pledge jihad to kill all Jews and the destruction of the country.

@DaninCyprus False analogy, those are guest workers. You can compare them to Filipinos and Thai and Indian workers in Israel. By no means comparable to a population that’s been there for 5000 years, or even 82 years, which is since before the state was even created.

@RobberSeamus Let me go further by advising you that most Gulf countries have up to 100x more non-citizens living within their borders then citizens. I have not heard you speak about how bad those countries are but I expect to hear a lot about it now that you are aware.

@DaninCyprus There were many Jewish arrivals who came after ww2, because no other countries wanted them. Then in the decades that followed, a trickle of Arab Jews. So basically even with your false theory, Palestinians were there decades longer than current Israeli citizens.

@DaninCyprus Not if you visit, but if you stay for 8-11 years, then absolutely you get full citizenship and the vote. Also you have equal rights without that. Palestinians have been there for 5000+ years, that is more than 11. Even your false ww2 theory puts them there longer than most Jews

@DaninCyprus This is how the entirety of Palestine was taken by the way. It’s so low IQ it’s baffling, to think that people would agree that that’s defensive. It’s literal colonialism, by organizations that used to have colonization in their name.

@DaninCyprus You’re most likely being dishonest now. Daniella Weiss doesn’t say Israel should start a war. She says that land is already theirs, and Jews can settle there. If anyone tries to prevent it, she says it’s defense to go to war against them and ethnically cleanse them.