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“Every word that is uttered creates an angel.”

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Aaron
Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@briandavidearp The “body plan” conception you argue against seems wrong even on its own terms. Doesn’t it misclassify the sex of sequentially hermaphroditic organisms? Seems they “body plan” proponents would have to really jump through hoops to handle sequential hermaphroditism.
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Brian D. Earp, Ph.D.
Brian D. Earp, Ph.D.@briandavidearp·
The key recurring confusion with these types of articles is they say "biological sex refers to binary reproductive strategies in anisogamous species" but a *person* is not *a reproductive strategy* whereas the social debates concern "how should we characterize persons" - so there is a missing step in the argument; when attempts are made to fill it in, it's usually stipulative ("persons should be classified as male or female according to what evolutionary reproductive strategy template their unmodified body plan most closely approximates in terms of capacity to produce sperm or eggs at some point in their lifecourse") but that is a different question and the argument for it is not straightforward. Anyway, here's my take: "On Whether Sex is Binary" pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41484543/
Carole Hooven@hoovlet

1/ A new article in @Ecology_Letters by a group of evolutionary biologists—pioneers and leading experts on the evolution of sex. (The article is open access, short, and clear.) "Biological sex is best defined as a binary classification of male and female reproductive strategies rooted in anisogamy, characterised by the production of two discrete gamete types of different sizes." "We call for a more differentiated discourse on sex, one that separates the scientific conception of biological sex from societal discussions regarding the diversity of gender expressions and identities in humans." onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/el…

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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@briandavidearp I agree with a lot of it but the toy factory analogy seems a little off? Behind the question of whether sex is binary and your whole theory vs. practice point is the question, what is sex? In your toy factory analogy the question would be, what is color? But that’s not contested.
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@L0m3z I thought it was kind of silly, blaming our troubles on William of Ockham
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Lomez
Lomez@L0m3z·
Fwiw, the idea of nominalism as the starting place for Western decline goes back to Richard Weaver's book Ideas Have Consequences. The emphasis on nominalism is more than a bit overstated imo, but it is a very good book that echoes much of what the online right has been talking about for years, including the tendency of liberalism to try to flatten hierarchies and erase distinction among not just people but values and ways of living. I've been waiting for a Weaver revival for a while. Maybe we will get one.
Defiant Ghost@TheDefiantGhost

Jay Dyer on Tucker Carlson: How Medieval Philosophy Nominalism created modern transgender ideology: “Nominalism is the idea that there are only names to things, not essences. So there’s no human nature. No dog nature. The ancient world believed things have real essences. Words described metaphysical reality. Occam started denying that. It influenced Luther. Then Hume, Kant, the Enlightenment… If things don’t have essences, then they don’t have genders objectively — everything is just a name. So I can just name myself he, him, Zer, Z. That’s the logical train from medieval philosophy to postmodern gender ideology. It flies in the face of lived experience. You basically have to be indoctrinated to believe it.”

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Aaron
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@jdoyleDoyle1 They are RADICALLY new meanings. You will not find “body plan” or “proper function” or “on a pathway to” in any definition in the scientific literature. I’d be very glad if someone could quote examples to prove me wrong! No one has so far.
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Aaron
Aaron@Rongwrong_·
Not to defend the anthropologist here, but I think it’s fine for some scientists like population geneticists to define sex by chromosomes, as long as they don’t claim that’s THE one conception of sex (which they don’t). But this is a disagreement over words, not material facts.
Tomas Bogardus@TomasBogardus

The president of the anthropologists seems to think that karyotypes are sexes, so that XXY is a different sex from XY. But no birds share my karyotype, yet some are male. So, karyotype ≠ sex. Also, she seems to deny that every XY person is the same sex. So, karyotype ≠ sex.

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@TomasBogardus Correction: SOME people have reproductive strategies (gamete types), namely those people who CURRENTLY produce gametes.
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Tomas Bogardus
Tomas Bogardus@TomasBogardus·
All that follows from 1 and 2 is that, according to these articles, people are not the sexes. But we already knew that. People *have* sexes; they also have strategies. So, these articles may well be correct, even given that people are not strategies.
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Aaron
Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@TomasBogardus That’s also a non sequitur: “Laws talk about sex, therefore the scientific property of sex is important to understand.” In fact the conclusion is false, if courts use an originalist or textualist method as in Bostock. It just matters what sex was understood as in 1964 or whenever
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Tomas Bogardus
Tomas Bogardus@TomasBogardus·
Dr. Earp says, "the social debates concern 'how should we characterize persons'." Yes, one question is social: how should people be treated? But another question is, what is sex itself? And, it turns out, that's also an important question. Esp. given how many laws appeal to sex.
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Aaron
Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@briantashman @phl43 How could this possibly succeed against the big anti-Israel influencers like Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, &c.? I hope it can counter them but it seems you need at least one big influencer, and they’re not going pro-Israel when they get more views for anti-Israel.
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Brian Tashman
Brian Tashman@briantashman·
Firm hired by Israel offers “influencers a base payment of $2,250, plus $1 for every 1,000 views, up to 2 million views,” letting them “earn as much as $4,250 per post” This is part of a foreign influence operation involving Trump’s former campaign manager and Salem Media
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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@aimeeterese The targets of genocide tend to be the relatively higher-performing, more intelligent and more educated groups: Jews, Armenians, Tutsis, etc.
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Aimee Terese
Aimee Terese@aimeeterese·
Genocide is good actually. Permanently eliminating substandard biotrash, flushing it completely out of the gene pool, is how humans as a species became incredibly powerful and well adapted to our environment.
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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@charlesmurray I’d say it’s so incoherent it’s “not even wrong”
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Naomi Fisher
Naomi Fisher@NaomiVFisher·
Why is everything written about AI such vague, performative garbage?
Erik Brynjolfsson@erikbryn

Here's the statement: wemustactnow.ai We Must Act Now A Statement on AI’s Transformation of the Economy 1. AI may become radically more powerful over the next 10 years. 2. This could drive an unprecedented transformation of our economy, larger than the Industrial Revolution, but unfolding over a vastly shorter time frame. It could bring risks, including large-scale job displacement, as well as opportunities such as major gains in living standards. 3. Economists, policymakers and technology leaders must act now to understand the economics of transformative AI and to build the incentives, guardrails, and institutions needed to steer AI in a direction that complements humans and benefits society. It was organized by Ajay Agrawal, @akorinek, @testingham and me.

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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@xwanyex The way you lock onto this topic and keep shaking it and nothing can release it from your jaws, I’d expect you’d also have a little more sympathy for pitbulls
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wanye
wanye@xwanyex·
OK, a related poll. Many people in this argument have suggested to me that I have some kind of weird, bespoke hangup about this. So let me just ask this directly. Is it annoying when somebody reclines into your space on a flight?
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@jakozloski @hbdchick I don’t doubt that shared environment has a low effect on marital status, but “mostly genetic” and “inherit” are awful language for talking about behavioral genetics
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Jake Kozloski 🇺🇸
Jake Kozloski 🇺🇸@jakozloski·
The "cycle of divorce" is mostly genetic, not environmental. Adopted kids inherit their biological parents' divorces. Across 19,715 Swedish adoptees, divorce risk tracked the parents they never met (not the family that raised them). Study: pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC58…
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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@whyvert Philosophers are also divided on in alignment with their political beliefs, of course. But you have the choice to keep politics out of your own thinking.
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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@whyvert This is one of those rare cases when you don’t need experts. It’s more of a philosophy question than a biology question, and the philosophy involved is easy for laymen to learn.
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Whyvert
Whyvert@whyvert·
Much of academia is prone to portraying leftist political belief as settled factual truth. E.g. President of the American Anthropological Association insists: "we know, factually... the idea that there are two sexes is just factually incorrect". Actual biologists:
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Rob Sica@robsica

President of @AmericanAnthro: "All you need to do is literally type into Google and see that we know, factually... the idea that there are two sexes is just factually incorrect" archive.ph/FKjSk

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@thisdoesnthelp Fair enough, I should’ve specified human population geneticists
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Alt-Ruist
Alt-Ruist@thisdoesnthelp·
@Rongwrong_ I have to admit when you said "population geneticists" i did not imagine you meant "people at 23AndMe"
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Aaron
Aaron@Rongwrong_·
Is there a difference in opinions between Americans and the rest of the world here? My impression is that anti-reclining is a more typically American view. Americans are not rude. The “ugly American” phenomenon is long past. It’s more just LOTS of unspoken, inscrutable norms.
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wanye@xwanyex

I deleted my earlier, more forceful take, but maybe I’ll just reframe it this way: what else in public life has the same characteristics as seat reclining where the benefit to you for reclining is very small but the downside to the person behind you is very large? Can you think of anything else that has this property and for which we wouldn’t describe engaging in the behavior as antisocial?

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