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Aaron

@Rongwrong_

“Every word that is uttered creates an angel.”

Katılım Aralık 2012
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Aaron
Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@rja_carnegie @HiddenYorkshire @nosilverv I guess you could compare reading and writing yourself, in English if you don’t know Latin. Take some text you haven’t read, remove all the spaces and punctuation, and read it. Then write some of your own text without spaces or punctuation, and see which was easier.
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Robert Carnegie
Robert Carnegie@rja_carnegie·
@Rongwrong_ @HiddenYorkshire @nosilverv But if speaking while reading may have been normal behaviour - what about writing? I suppose in writing, you aren't trying to solve a puzzle. This isn't exactly evidence but in the bible, John 8:1-11, Jesus apparently writes without speaking - on the ground with his finger.
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Reminder that EVERYTHING is an achievement: St. Augustine was shocked to find St. Ambrose reading *silently* (reading was then social and aloud) and private silent reading only really took off 700 years after in the 12 century.
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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@bloatinus @L0m3z NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN is the other movie I’ve seen based on his writing and it was also really really camp, but I didn’t read the book so I can’t say how much is McCarthy camping out and how much is the Coen brothers. Cuz they’re also happy campers.
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Lomez
Lomez@L0m3z·
My Cormac McCarthy take is that he’s a very funny writer and the cruel—worse than cruel, indifferent—and senseless Gnostic void into which he’s pulling you all becomes human and warm and full of meaning once you find the humor in it.
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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@steven_lynn_ @JPUATX @HiddenYorkshire @nosilverv correctionithinkthewholepremiseofthebookistheexactoppositeyoureadthetextaloudinordertobeabletoreaditinyourheadinotherwordsinordertodistinguishthediscretewordsincontinoustext
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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@rja_carnegie @HiddenYorkshire @nosilverv Maybesobutagainthisiscompletelydifferentfromdoingmathitssaboutfindingdiscretewordsincontinouswrittentextthatisthereasontheyreadaloudyoucandoitsilentlylikeambrosebutapparentlyitseasierifyouvocalizeatleastinlatinandgreek
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Robert Carnegie
Robert Carnegie@rja_carnegie·
@HiddenYorkshire @Rongwrong_ @nosilverv "Maths" is... quite difficult. I'd guess that over history, and perhaps today and in the street where I live, or in your street, relatively few of us can do maths without moving our lips - those who can do it at all. If we're not speaking it, we're imagining speaking.
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Aaron
Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@si_rubinstein The value is in pointing out that the person’s work is worthless. That makes the point that people should still have the right to free expression even if they’ve got nothing worthwhile to say.
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Sasha Gusev
Sasha Gusev@SashaGusevPosts·
This is a good letter. Cofnas shouldn't be fired (and it appears he will not be). Cofnas is a deeply unoriginal thinker and a sloppy researcher; his recruitment is an embarrassment. But once hired, he has a right to academic freedom of expression.
Committee for Academic Freedom@ComAcFreedom

Dr @nathancofnas’s appointment at Ghent University has prompted a campaign by members of the institution calling on the university to reverse course, citing his published work on race, heredity and intelligence. In response, CAF Advisory Board member Professor Abhishek Saha helped organised a counter-petition in support of Cofnas’s right to #academicfreedom of expression. CAF Director Dr Edward Skidelsky is among the signatories, alongside a number of senior academics from leading universities. This is not about endorsing Cofnas’s views, but about defending the principle that disagreements of this kind should be addressed through open inquiry, criticism, and civil debate. Of course, academics must be free to strongly contest ideas they regard as deeply objectionable. But that does not extend to a veto over appointments. Universities cannot function if controversial or provocative lines of research are treated as grounds for exclusion rather than argument. You can read the statement and sign the counter-petition here: drive.google.com/file/d/1RRsGma… @ObhishekSaha @ProfDHayes @epkaufm @Furedibyte @HJoyceGender @drianpace @aytchellesse @JoPhoenix1 @sapinker

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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@bopy_petal If that’s true then it sounds like he’s a shitty writer
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Bopy Petal
Bopy Petal@bopy_petal·
@gran1te_mtn Rufo is too old (and too straightlaced) for these books now. You have to get McCarthy into your bloodstream when you are younger
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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@JPUATX @HiddenYorkshire @nosilverv What is related to culture and society is the question of whether it was seen as a problem that reading was difficult. But the use of reading aloud is purely about solving a cognitive task.
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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@JPUATX @HiddenYorkshire @nosilverv To make it very clear, silent reading HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH READING AS A SOCIAL PRACTICE. It is ENTIRELY about the COGNITIVE ABILITY to read silently, which is about spaces between words.
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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@JPUATX @HiddenYorkshire No, the OP was mistaken about that. Of course people often read individually. The point of reading aloud was to break the continuous text into discrete words. This was possible with continuous text in Indo-European languages cuz it included vowels. Other languages needed spaces.
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Scamp Walker
Scamp Walker@JPUATX·
It’s don’t think it’s that it wasn’t possible, I think what they’re trying to say is that reading out loud to other people was the point of reading, as an extension of oral history and storytelling and not as a separate solitary act. I’m sure people read sentences in their heads all the time, but no one thought that was the primary goal of reading
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Aaron
Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@HiddenYorkshire You can download a PDF from Anna’s Archive (at least I did years ago). Like the title suggests, reading aloud was a way of separating the continuous writing into discrete words. Silent reading in Latin was enabled by spaces or other separators between words.
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Catherine Warr
Catherine Warr@HiddenYorkshire·
@Rongwrong_ @nosilverv If I can get a hold of that book without academic access I'll check it out. I remain skeptical bc the corollary is the idea that mental arithmetic wasn't possible. If we're talking about cognitive functions, mental maths is the same as reading. Was maths only possible out loud?
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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@HiddenYorkshire @nosilverv There’s a whole book on it, “Space Between Words: The Origins of Silent Reading” <sup.org/books/literary…> Ambrose was presumably reading Latin. Other languages had word spacing long before Latin. Also, pace the OP, reading wasn’t just social, it was individual as well.
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Catherine Warr
Catherine Warr@HiddenYorkshire·
@nosilverv Low-stakes but I straight up do not believe that silent reading was just "invented". Do we really have such little theory of mind for people in the past that the most basic literacy function was beyond them? How do we know this passage isn't a commentary on lectio divina?
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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
Top Ten People Who Block Me on X 1. Whit Stillman 2. Adrian Vermeule (alternates between following and blocking me) 3. John Podhoretz 4. Noah Smith 5. Passage Press 6. Richard Spencer 7. Kathleen Stock 8. Elizabeth Bruenig 9. Iona Italia 10. Sohrab Ahmari
Daniel Rubenstein@paulrubens

Top Ten People Who Block Me on X 1. Barak Ravid 2. Jeffrey Goldberg 3. Paul Graham 4. Gérard Araud 5. George Galloway 6. Danny Citrinowicz 7. Craig Murray 8. Muhammad Shehada 9. Heidi N. Moore 10. Chaya’s Clan

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Aaron
Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@kilovh This is the kind of over-philosophical thinking that makes people hate Jews
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Aaron@Rongwrong_·
@NickAllmaier There’s a famous comparison of the way reality is represented in two stories about the characters, one from the Odyssey and one from Genesis: “Odysseus’ Scar”
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Nick Allmaier
Nick Allmaier@NickAllmaier·
Many parallels between Odysseus and Abraham
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