Rony- The Chatterbox

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy i think i would just agree to disagree here lol

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Yeah she had a decline after a six months hiatus and still does extremely well so what? She’s still Not a bigger name than Taylor swift who mind you put iut a work that’s considered inferior to 30 by general Standards . But you bet it’ll sell more due to her name alone

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@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Taylor is not just successful because of a bigger name. It's because more & more people started listening, connecting and loving the work and tuning in. That is why her success is evergrowing. This hasn't happened with most of her peers btw, despite them being big names too lol

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Of course it does Taylor’s name is huge so of course it’s going to carry a bigger audience otherwise she wouldn’t have more streamers than someone who’s only three alums in Taylor’s name alone guarantees musical success that goes without saying.

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Mariah hasn't toured in forever and she can barely sell out arenas anymore. But she is a big name, so where's her "big audience" lol Again, they were NOT COOLING DOWN, they released frequently but failed often. You can make all the factors up but u can't fight the numbers

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy How is it not true ? They all went through things that caused them to cool down they all decided to take different directions with other factors that they decided to slow their momentum down: yet I’m willing to bet if they went on tour they’d still sell out

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy My point is that she clearly had a decline. Which is obvious but normal. This proves my point that artists don't get to have a bigger audience just coz they're older

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy And then she took a a six year break and cooled off and still sold An album that is 2x platinum in the current era so what’s your point?

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy The "bigger names" don't have a bigger "audience" they have a NICHE AUDIENCE because they are older and their peak has gone by. Newer artists are always pushed and more easy to discover and support.

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Compared to Taylor swift whose name again is gonna guarantee musical success? How is she gonna have a better shot against someone who’s the biggest name in the industry with a 2 decade career jump ? Of course the bigger name will carry a bigger audience

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy She took a 4 year break between 2011 and 2015 too But she hit it big then. In 2021, she simply didn't match up despite all the efforts and 10x more hype

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy From a major cooling off period since 2015 lol

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Hmm, this is not true. 20 yrs into Mariah's career she was struggling to get a top 5 album debut lmao in the 2010s 20 yrs into Madonna's career she couldn't even get a song to CHART on the Hot 100 in the 2000s

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy This was also during the 80s and 90s with an much more experimental era as well so I don’t know why they don’t do as well currently again that’s based off the choices and directions they take: but sgsin Taylor’s name alone guarantees her success lol

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Yeah u are clearly high on something lol Bro, newer artists always get a better shot. Your biggest records are usually ur debut or ur sophomore. After that u kinda settle and just become a niche artist with ur fans. 2 decade old artists aren't supposed to outsell u

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Cause she has smaller fanbase? Of course she’s not going to make Taylor’s numbers since her fanbase is smaller than the biggest name in the industry I would of course expect someone with a 20 decade career to do better than someone who only Stated in 2021 lol

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy They didn't make any abnormal choices. In fact Madonna was releasing frequently during that period too.. But they didn't outsell the new artists at the time. The thing is, you always get to peak with ur debut or ur sophomore. After that you settle in and don't "grow" like that..

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy I dunno cause of the career choices they made and stuff that happened in their life? Ask them they decided to take a break and cooled off I guess. But Taylor’s name being the biggest in the industry of course she’s gonna do better then someone who’s started only In 2021

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy She had so much hype going for it because she takes such long breaks and STILL..😂😂😂

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Of course it wasn’t going to do well as her other alubums since it came out in 2021 when her last album was in 2015

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy "double platinum"😭😭 It debuted with 800K+ units btw. Like this is embarrassing as hell coz how frontloaded was that shit Evermore is eligible for 3x Platinum despite having 0 physicals on it's first week as a surprise release and having no "big hits".

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Well then you don’t know what a global flop Is since it sold incredible well and even with its later momentum it’s eligible for double platinum Of course selling out a stadium is part of her career since her name still brings in a crowd How is her album a flop by any messure

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy So why didn't Madonna or Mariah's name carry their music??? Why did they flop in just over a decade of their careers? LMAO

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy It’s a business tactic for sure lol she knows how big her fanbase is Other singers really don’t have any relevancy In this because again. Taylor’s name is going to carry her music even if it’s incredibly bad it till carry with her name alone

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy With every reply you seem to be justifying why xyz artist isn't on her level lmao Beyonce has a 25 year old start, with a longer lasting fanbase too Drake started around the same time as Taylor. Then why can't they match up to her with their recent stuff?

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy You Mens her fans? Yesh they’re gonna eat whatever she puts out since they’re her fans so naturally regardless of the quality it’s gonna do well But even Taylor has a bigger audience than the artists you mention so of course again she’s gonna out perform lol

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy So why is the gp not streaming Olivia? She is the gp's darling queen right? Why are her numbers so inferior compared to Taylor lol, even though ACCORDING TO YOU Taylor is not a gp artist lmao... Fanbases aren't as big as the entire gp, you know that right?

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Causes Taylor swifts name is bigger than hers and she carries a bigger fanbase that’s a given of course Taylor is going to sell more music and have bigger streams she’s Taylor swift lol her name alone carries it despite whether she puts out

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Someone can't read clearly lmao I said it was a commercial drop and a major global flop in terms of sales and hits. And selling out stadiums isn't equivalent to actually having ur RECENT MUSIC be big. Jlo sold out a stadium lmao despite her album flopping

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy So Adele still had a huge and fairly big success with 30 and it was one of the best selling albums in 2021 but some now it’s a flop? Despite the fact Adele had already had major successs with previous albums? And her concerts still draw in stadium size people? You make no sense.

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy A "business tactic" being saying that maybe this is kinda the end of ur peak LMAO😭😭😭 Livitards are so dumb. By ur logic- Mariah Carey could've outdone Rihanna or Taylor in the 2010s? Madonna could've outdone Britney or Beyonce in the 2000s? Then why didn't that happen lmao

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Yeah that’s a business tactic tho cause she’s full aware that her fans would just eat up whatever she puts down And that’s my oiint the biggest name in the industry with 20 years in of course is going to do better then someone who’s a newbie in comparison. That’s a given

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy You should say subjectively lmao Because, again there are billions of people who love that music and would listen to it over ur fav's RIP OFF songs😂 Drake is also a big name, so is The Weeknd, so is Beyonce. Let's check if any of their recent efforts compare to Taylor lmao😂

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy I said that Taylor had a 20 Decade head start so she’s gonna have more success than someone who’s only three albums into. And again grab Taylor is going to do better because her name along would carry it even if her music is objectively bad. A name goes a long ways

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy I still haven't had an answer to my question lol Olivia, according to you is the gp loved artist no? So why is her music not doing as good as the "fanbase only driven" music? Is it because Taylor's fanbase is bigger than the gp? lmao

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Yes Taylor is successful and one of the biggest reasons is cause of her fans just willing to eat anything she puts in front of them I said that Olivia was only three albums into her career so I expect Taylor to have an advantage especially when she’s Taylor swift of all people

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Adele's 30 was outsold by ur fav actually lmao😭 And Adele's 30 charted for 69 weeks. Embarrassing as hell and it barely had 1 hit. It's sales were a major decline since her past releases. It was underwhelming. "Success" and outdoing ur peaks is different. Hope this helps

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Yeah and they still do relatively well with their music and 30 was one of the biggest albums of 2021 so these examples aren’t really the best examples of flopping artists especially when the still continued to have success in the current era

@BlossomAboveAll @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Taylor herself said in 2019 that this might be her last chance at ever being successful as she is but little did she know what was ahead of her. A popstar pulling such numbers 2 decades into their career is INSANE and if ur fav is unable to compete then...

@RonyChatterBox8 @MaybeASwiftie89 @fath3r_figur3 @torturedshwboy Because of a two decade head start so again even Taylor’s worst music is going to do better given she has two decades on another singer who’s only three albums into her career. I would expect a singer with 20 years worth if a head start to do better especially when said singer