Sir G / Ryan G.

Knicks fans…just be prepared to have Julius Randle in the starting lineup next season lol.

Game 3 Knicks VS Hawks Live Postgame Show x.com/i/broadcasts/1…

@sportyspicce @mikal_bridges ABOUT DAMN TIME lol.

…. @mikal_bridges 💔 I give up on men. I tried. Very much single.

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow You’re extremely intelligent yourself. Gotta def be on my A game to debate you lol.

@RyanGKOT @TheKOTShow I love stimulating convo. And you are a very smart dude. So I enjoy matching wits.

We had a heated debate on @thekotshow about whether Mikal Bridges’ game-winning attempt should be called a choke. And to be clear, there was agreement on the larger point: the game should have never gotten to that possession in the first place. The Hawks’ comeback was a shared, systemic failure of coaching, execution, shot selection, and Brunson's decision-making. That was the macro. But the debate tightened around the micro: that final shot. J Ellis, @sportyspicce and @RyanGKOT said the shot was not a choke. @knicks_nightcap and I said it was. It’s actually pretty simple to discern. If Bridges hits that shot and the Knicks win, every single one of us—myself included—is calling him clutch. No hesitation. No nuance. No “well, actually.” It becomes a defining moment, a Knicks narrative swing, the kind of shot that's etched in history. So if we’re willing to assign clutch based on the result, we have to be consistent enough to accept the inverse when it fails. A thing is understood, in part, by its opposite. If a made shot in that moment is clutch, then a failed one—especially given the context and decision-making—can be called a choke. That’s logical symmetry. You don’t get to claim the glory of one side without accepting the weight of the other. On to Game 3, a must-win for our Knicks.

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow You respond fast man lol. I hate I have to break my tweets down into parts lol.

@RyanGKOT @TheKOTShow Glad to here that. However, if words do have static meaning, than no amount of nuance changed that. If Bridges had anxiety, I don't blame him. Still a choke tho. Lol Next time he should let Hart go to the rack.

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow making, and physical tension.” I don’t believe there was a mental lapse or overthinking in that situation. It was just simply a race against the clock and a missed shot. My fault, that’s the AI definition that kinda feeds off of what Wiki says.

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow I am like you logically in that words need static definitions, but in some cases, I do believe in nuance, especially when it comes to sports. And in the wiki definition of choke, as you go deeper “…mental lapse caused by extreme anxiety, leading to overthinking, poor decision

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow …a good debate and move on.

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow Lee, debates are usually timed. I felt like I made the points I needed to make, and I understood your position. For me, it doesn’t make sense to continue to go back and forth when it’s clear neither one of us is going to shift our thoughts or position. I rather just say it was…

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow I’m not complaining about the length. I really can’t go back and forth for so long lol. All debates got a time limit lol. But you’re difficult to debate, I’ll give you that.

It's not that I want to win; I am simply engaging with those who engage with me. You chose to join this discussion. So I engaged you. I don't understand joining a discussion and then complaining about its length. Again, I choose to embrace the definition of words as static and unchanging. You don't. So the weight of Wiki's definition matters differently to us in this discussion.

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow Okay, you got it sir. You want to win this argument so bad, you got it. I can’t sit on twitter all day and do a back and forth. Either way you cut it, it was a difficult shot. Not every difficult shot is made. It’s basketball, and there’s a human element to it. You got it tho.

LMFAO If people have different views of choking and clutch, then there is no point to ever using the term, because the definition is fluid. I don’t subscribe to that logic. I believe words need static definitions in a shared language, so we have established truth and established ways of solving arguments. My definitions of clutch and choke match the Wiki definitions. I take solace in that. Opposed to your own personal definition, which also happens to make the player for the team you root for look better.

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow ..to back their claim.

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow Lol, okay sir. Basketball is a game of rules and how those rules are defined in game. People have different views of what choking or clutch is based on how they see the game. Doesn’t necessarily make one view wrong over the other as long as that person has reasonable viewpoints..

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow No narrative is being fit here. This is based on judgement of the shot taken. We both judge the shot differently, and it’s just a difference in opinion. We see choking differently.

@RyanGKOT @TheKOTShow A definition does not change because it suits a preferential narrative. Definitions exists to define terms and the conversations they are applied to. The definition I gave is a simple one. And applies to the situation at hand.

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow You can stick to dictionary definitions all you want to prove your point. It’s hard for a definition to apply when there are varying degrees of difficulty of the same kind of shot taken. Not everything is simple and uniform when it comes to sports.

@RyanGKOT @TheKOTShow Clutch and choke apply to non-normal game scenarios. Which this moment was.

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow …moment lowered the probability of him making that shot. It’s not a high percentage shot anymore.

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow Again, it might be a high percentage shot for him in NORMAL GAME SITUATIONS. I’m pretty sure the majority of his midrange jumpers, he isn’t driving from half court, trying to beat a defender, and taking a step back J with a second left on the clock. What he was facing in the…

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow It’s not an attack, but I find it difficult to call a shot a choke when most players, outside of the greats, probably miss that shot as well. A contested step back J with a sec and change left on the clock is a difficult shot.

@RyanGKOT @TheKOTShow Saying a missed shot was a choke, is not an attack. It’s just the truth. It also recognizes humanity.

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow It would have been considered clutch, and I know where you’re going with this argument trying to make it seem like it’s simple logic while ignoring other factors including difficulty of the shot, the defender literally being on his hip, etc.

@RyanGKOT @TheKOTShow If it would have went in, would it have been a clutch make?

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow …and not all defenders fall for it. It’s just an unfortunate miss and you move on to the next game. Sometimes unfair expectations are placed on players when in reality, we’re all human and are not perfect. Even the greatest shooters miss shots, it happens.

@_leeescobedo @TheKOTShow I more so say a shot in the clutch is choking if it’s a wide open shot. It’s hard to label a shot, that’s a contested step back J, a choke job. That’s a difficult shot to make. Even if people want to point to the hesi dribble. He tried to freeze the defender to create space…