
Ryan
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Ryan
@Ryry356
A fun-loving serious introvert who has his Mom to thank for helping shape me into a better person.


Opinion: Here is how President Trump's scam, engineered by acting AG Todd Blanche, came to be and then went off the rails. usatoday.com/story/opinion/…

Disagree. Everything the court says about what justifies sanctions can be said about the various collusive settlements from Obama and Biden. The only difference here is that the Trump litigation was nakedly collusive. Example 1.: Obama giving $3 billion to plaintiffs that the courts had said they’re not entitled to in the Cobell litigation, including $100 million in fees for attorneys, including big bundlers for Obama. How is that any less collusive? Example 2: Garcia v Vilsack is even more on point. Created a fund for a bunch of claimants who never even filed claims! Class action status had been denied. So they literally created a fund to pay for favored constituencies, even though they had no viable legal claims of their own. How is that any less collusive? Seems almost exactly what happened here. You can hear more here: youtu.be/CUtoz5DXlKU




The amazing thing is I am not even defending the anti-weaponization fund. I am against imposing sanctions on one side for actions at the other side does all the time. And my posts have forced many on the left to defend the collusive Obama settlements, even though they effectively suffer from the same defects. But it requires careful understanding to see that, not rank partisanship.

Garcia litigated for a decade — and lost every step of the way. Didn’t stop the Obama administration from creating a settlement fund even for those who never filed their own claims (and such claims would almost certainly be time barred). Who’s omitting key facts? The question is one of *sanctions* for certain behavior. The Garcia litigation settled because the Obama administration stopped serving its role as an adverse party. Just like here. Why are you defending it? Why are you so quick to send Republican lawyers to the state bars but not your own side?

Trump’s mistake apparently was not colluding with private litigants, losing in court for a decade, and then settling with a future JD Vance administration

Disagree. Everything the court says about what justifies sanctions can be said about the various collusive settlements from Obama and Biden. The only difference here is that the Trump litigation was nakedly collusive. Example 1.: Obama giving $3 billion to plaintiffs that the courts had said they’re not entitled to in the Cobell litigation, including $100 million in fees for attorneys, including big bundlers for Obama. How is that any less collusive? Example 2: Garcia v Vilsack is even more on point. Created a fund for a bunch of claimants who never even filed claims! Class action status had been denied. So they literally created a fund to pay for favored constituencies, even though they had no viable legal claims of their own. How is that any less collusive? Seems almost exactly what happened here. You can hear more here: youtu.be/CUtoz5DXlKU

@ReichlinMelnick Problem with slippery slopes is they are slippery. Trump’s actions are the foreseeable and foreseen consequences of Obama’s actions. Nobody will show restraint and I expect the next Dem president to embrace and replicate what Trump did. And Dem judges will go along with it.

Disagree. Everything the court says about what justifies sanctions can be said about the various collusive settlements from Obama and Biden. The only difference here is that the Trump litigation was nakedly collusive. Example 1.: Obama giving $3 billion to plaintiffs that the courts had said they’re not entitled to in the Cobell litigation, including $100 million in fees for attorneys, including big bundlers for Obama. How is that any less collusive? Example 2: Garcia v Vilsack is even more on point. Created a fund for a bunch of claimants who never even filed claims! Class action status had been denied. So they literally created a fund to pay for favored constituencies, even though they had no viable legal claims of their own. How is that any less collusive? Seems almost exactly what happened here. You can hear more here: youtu.be/CUtoz5DXlKU

What’s dishonest about it Aaron? I lay out the facts for each. You can explain why the comparison doesn’t hold, but I’m not sure how that makes it dishonest. If you read the parts of the opinion justifying sanctions, it applies exactly to these other collusive suits. I don’t see much of a difference between democrat-aligned interest groups making legally unmeritorious claims and settling with a Democrat administration and what Trump is doing here except the nakedness of the collusiveness, which is the difference I already highlighted.

Disagree. Everything the court says about what justifies sanctions can be said about the various collusive settlements from Obama and Biden. The only difference here is that the Trump litigation was nakedly collusive. Example 1.: Obama giving $3 billion to plaintiffs that the courts had said they’re not entitled to in the Cobell litigation, including $100 million in fees for attorneys, including big bundlers for Obama. How is that any less collusive? Example 2: Garcia v Vilsack is even more on point. Created a fund for a bunch of claimants who never even filed claims! Class action status had been denied. So they literally created a fund to pay for favored constituencies, even though they had no viable legal claims of their own. How is that any less collusive? Seems almost exactly what happened here. You can hear more here: youtu.be/CUtoz5DXlKU




Wait, sue and settle is now bar-discipline worthy? If so, all the Obama and Biden lawyers are in big trouble. Just kidding. These rules apply only to Trump and his lawyers.



