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@cjine99 @YoungsTeflon Na , don’t agree with them. Squeeks is just as well known as Joe Black. + Fredo would be a Tier.
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@SQ96____ @YoungsTeflon Nah not same bracket g maybe like 1 above depending on how u define boundaries
Roughly examples
A - Cench, Stormzy, Skepta
B - Hus, Headie, Fredo
C - Nines, Potter, Huncho
D - Tef , Snap Capone, Benny Banks
E - Torment, Stardom,Squeeks
F - J Spades, Sho Shallow, Boss Belly
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@cjine99 @YoungsTeflon Yeah that’s why I said I put him in that bracket. It is close , but tef defo pips him in awareness and is still relatively unknown. He could walk down any street in London and most likely no one stops him for a pic. Same can’t be said for Fredo, Clavish, J Hus etc etc
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@SQ96____ @YoungsTeflon Bigger than Torment still (& I prefer Torments music) but I agree on the niche part
Respected ≠ Widely known
Tef has respect and longevity but the audience never expanded, outside a specific group most won’t recognise his voice
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@YoungsTeflon @mindofprospect @Fetchbetch70879 I get it..it hurts when people say stuff you don’t wanna hear. Was never meant to come across as offensive. I still gave you your flowers.
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@mindofprospect @YoungsTeflon He didn’t say he didn’t know who he is lol
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@SQ96____ @YoungsTeflon You can’t claim to be a UK rap fan and be over 25 and not know who youngs tef is. Impossible
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@SQ96____ @YoungsTeflon 30+ with 300k monthly and multiple songs with milli plus streams. little torment hard but teff isn’t in that bracket

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@teshai00 @Enzof74 @YoungsTeflon Think my point is his wording was he never listened to his music. He admitted he does know who tef is unless I heard incorrectly
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@SQ96____ @Enzof74 @YoungsTeflon This is a great point and I dont disagree. In this case tho we are talking about a journalist who does deep dives into drill rappers and their cases. On both sides of the ocean. Him not knowing tef means HE doesn't have as much of an understanding of the culture he profits from
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@gazzastripe @amadenjoyer21 @YoungsTeflon Probs need to grow a pair if that’s offending you my guy lol W Torment
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@gazzastripe @amadenjoyer21 @YoungsTeflon But I made my own argument and you decided to run with it, so yes infact that is what we are talking about. You can’t insert yourself into my comment then try the cry baby ting. Neeky
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@SQ96____ @amadenjoyer21 @YoungsTeflon Lol do u know how many of Tef’s tapes aren’t even on these platforms coz of samples? 😂 let alone his grime days. They aren’t close for quality, quantity or numbers. I get it you’re a torment fan but these are facts
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@MT_Prxphet @YoungsTeflon clearly isn’t what our discussion has gone into but thanks for the input
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@SQ96____ @YoungsTeflon If you’re of the culture you know of Tef, whether you like his music or not that’s the point
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@amadenjoyer21 @gazzastripe @YoungsTeflon You’re being pedantic. Ask a casual UK rap listener, and they’ll likely know Young’s Teflon. But ask someone tapped into a different niche or online subculture, and Little Torment could be just as familiar — if not more so.
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@amadenjoyer21 @gazzastripe @YoungsTeflon Why’s it pressed you so much? Youngs has released more music and torment isn’t even on it as much as him and still competes view wise. You can be silly in your responses but my belief remains, they are basically the same artists and imo Torment is better.
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@SQ96____ @gazzastripe @YoungsTeflon “nothing really separates it on youtube” just 4x the subs and multiple videos with millions of views dfkm
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@iamray____ @amadenjoyer21 @YoungsTeflon I guess firstly it’s important to clarify and say Ross didn’t say he hadn’t heard of Tef, just that he hadn’t listened to his music. Secondly it’s just my opinion man lol.
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@SQ96____ @amadenjoyer21 @YoungsTeflon I rate little torment but no way is he on the same level as tef. A lot more people have heard of Teflon than they have little torment. And if you’re someone like Ross, who’s entire content is about music industry and uk gangs and so on, how is it possible he hasn’t heard of tef
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@gazzastripe @amadenjoyer21 @YoungsTeflon That’s a good argument tbf, nothing really seperates it on YouTube. But if you’re doing that, do it on all the other platforms please. Apple Music, SoundCloud etc.. as a lot of Torments old stuff won’t be on there. Hate to be that guy but your spinning a one sided approach here
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@ElSplasho7 @YoungsTeflon Who’s a new gen? I was born in 95, grew up in Lewisham. I’m familiar with practically every London based underground artist to an extent. Just because I don’t cuck for these rappers like the rest of you lot lol. It’s just facts man.
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@SQ96____ @YoungsTeflon If your a kid yeah but its a good thing u new gens aint getting rid of the ogs everyone from enz knows tef not none of u new gen kids social media takes away everything uve done in real life because your not viral on the internet or tiktok? lool real life will always win
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@amadenjoyer21 @YoungsTeflon Not even trying to be a hater, Little Torment goes up against Tef well. whether your measurement is views on YouTube or whatever. They the same to me.
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@SQ96____ @YoungsTeflon no disrespect to torment but that is such a stretch. teflon been about for years worked with some of the biggest rappers in the uk and has sum serious hits with a decent size fan base
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@Enzof74 @YoungsTeflon Hence my “wider audience” mention. The % of people who listen to uk rap, listen to mainstream Uk rap or very popular artists. Tef never really been that guy imo.
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@SQ96____ @YoungsTeflon Someone that’s listened to uk rap all their lives allegedly, should definitely know about tef lol
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