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Hey how about 5 quick questions with brand new @BallStateMBB coach @ChrisCapko Thanks coach for taking the time

@ballstatefbtalk @thorku lol There are still ncaa games lol and Im stuck on this cruise ship lol.. Plus I love pissing you off and getting you all worked up

@SSN_BallState @thorku I’m done arguing with you. Get some sleep grandpa

I'm a sucker for NFL Draft testing quirks. So I present Ball State WR Qian Magwood, who valiantly completed every test -- including an ill-fated crack at the bench.

@ballstatefbtalk @thorku yes I am aware if what cooper said happened

@SSN_BallState @thorku Jeez man it was an inside reference but I guess you’re not in the loop. I didn’t mean actually ask Cooper 🤦‍♂️ you’re killing me today smh

@ballstatefbtalk @thorku and I will leave you this

@SSN_BallState @thorku Yes they lift in highschool. No I don’t give a damn about their bench press numbers. I care about speed, how you come off the line, your hands. The last thing I care about is bench press, because as I’ve just explained 20 times to you it doesn’t actually matter that much for WRs

@ballstatefbtalk @thorku We hired a new one last year.. Im not going to ask cooper but he would have had the same coaches as any hold over. So the answer would be its very possible that Ball State had a possible problem with strength perhaps not just Wrs

@SSN_BallState @thorku Ask Marquez Cooper about the strength and conditioning staff at Ball State 👀👀 probably has changed by now though, completely new HC and what not

@ballstatefbtalk @thorku Im not at all being condescending just asking general questions like how does ANY college Wr not bench 225. Do we have a strength and confitioning problem at BSU I dont know?

@SSN_BallState @thorku I’m chilling on the couch with my feet up. Never upset with you just trying to get you to learn something without being condescending but it’s getting kind of hard…. don’t know how many ways/times I’ve gotta tell you something

@ballstatefbtalk @Hagerman25 @thorku everything works together and I never said qian was not a good blocker.

@Hagerman25 @SSN_BallState @thorku I’m not even gonna pretend like I knew that, but it does make sense. More of Qian’s power is coming from his legs rather than his arms

@ballstatefbtalk @thorku Every receiver better block or they will not play. You gotta want to block but tge stronger you are the easier it is.. Right now Im laughing zi can just see you all worked up red faced and angry.. Lol Chill I love you man

@SSN_BallState @thorku you know who could work on blocking? 6’4 205 pound Donovan Hamilton. This is no knock on him. I attended a coaching summit held by Ball State and I watched some of his blocking from last year on film. He’ll be fine and he’ll improve, but I bet he can bench 225 right now!!

@ballstatefbtalk @thorku you would be a better a blocker yhe stronger you are lol. Do your receivers lift for highschool? What are their target numbers ? I can tell you my son a fifteen year old soph weighs 163 and his expected bench and off season goal per his weight coach is 190-200. He plays Wr/CB

@SSN_BallState @thorku Why do you keep trying to belittle/explain the most basic rules of football to me like you don’t know I’m a WR coach in high school. Qian was a fine blocker and didn’t get a rep at 225, so you tell me how important repping 225 is for blocking?

@ballstatefbtalk @thorku No im not 0 reps is not 11 13 or 27 nor is not the average or even close.. If it did not matter it would not be a test. Ive agreed its not an end all be all but deff me imp than your giving it credit for

@SSN_BallState @thorku dude you’re proving my point yourself. The bench press doesn’t mean anything. Willie at 11, AB at 13, DK at 27. Was Willie 11/13ths as good as AB?? Like I love Willie but cmon. Was DK better than AB? Again, the bench press doesn’t really mean much for WRs

@ballstatefbtalk @thorku Neither can push after 5 yards and if a corner does jam you and gets his hands on you your feet do not matter. You gotta use strength and arms at that point. Now what about Blocking? and again this is nothing to do with with qian its a general statement about wrs

@SSN_BallState @thorku You’re not reading what I’m saying. I just said "[WRs] can’t even push AFTER a certain yardage." You keep acting like the only way to beat jam press is by going straight through the defender and it’s not true. You can beat jam press with speed.

@ballstatefbtalk @thorku Antonio Brown did 13 reps DJ Metcalf did 27 Willie did 11. You mention Hollywood brown dude knew he was the fastest guy and speed alone would get him drafted. All that speed has netted one thousand yard season as a pro..

@SSN_BallState @thorku Was Antonio Brown pushing guys off the jump or was he shaking people and making space? I think you’re confusing how most guys create space off the line. You’re not even allowed to push guys after a certain yardage. Hollywood Brown didn’t even do the bench. Qian will be fine

@ballstatefbtalk @thorku Agreed but you cant discard it

@SSN_BallState @thorku My point is bench press doesn’t really matter for WRs. While I won’t go as far as to say it’s completely irrelevant- it’s got a low predictive value of success. You’re overvaluing the drill rn. Speed, vertical, and 3 cone drill matter a lot more.

@ballstatefbtalk @thorku Not only dies Wr strength help while being jammed by cb. It also helps with blocking

@SSN_BallState @thorku 2007 Kevin Durant had 0 bench press reps at 185 & he’s gone on to be one of the best pure scorers all time. Qian will be fine. It’s a body type sort of situation- he’s a skinnier smaller guy. I’m not sure how much bench press actually matters for WRs but I wouldn’t imagine a ton

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@ballstatefbtalk @thorku I agree and you know I feel the same but numbers might shed some light on why receivers might not have been able to get seperation.. If you have corners who ate much stronger they are going to slow the route throw off timing etc.. Just a thought

@thorku Numbers don’t tell his full story. Great guy, locker room leader, soft hands. Here he is with a game winner last year!

Ball State up two going into the third set

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