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@atthegaIlowsend @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 I feel for any civilian affected by this conflict which is why the Russian government is evil and should be destroyed.

@SadLexify @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 There’s returning strikes, and then there’s hitting civilians. It should be condemned and held accountable for, no matter what side. Now, I’m done. You can stop replying to me because I’m done talking. You don’t wanna engage in good faith, that’s fine. I’m not giving you my time.

Hideous footage of what Putin's drones did to civilian apartments in Kiev. Oh. My bad. That's actually Russian civilians being targeted in Russia by NATO’s weapons. It's okay though because my TV told me Ukraine are the good guys!

@atthegaIlowsend @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 The invading party is responsible for all deaths in a conflict. Obviously if Russia ended their invasion and Ukraine continued to attack them this would be condemnable. But I genuinely do not know how you can hold Ukraine morally accountable for returning strikes.

@SadLexify @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 I condemn civilian deaths no matter whom did it. You refused to give a good faith answer, you just kept flipping back to “Russia invaded” and said Ukraine can’t be held accountable, like if Ukraine is invincible with doing war crimes. I’m not doing this shit, you win. I give up.

@atthegaIlowsend @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 It didn't drift, I asked you if you condemn civilian deaths in every situation and you couldn't do it. You shifted your argument to blaming individuals when you started the conversation by blaming the country of Ukraine for civilian deaths.

@SadLexify @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 Alright and there’s your answer. I don’t even know how this drifted from talking about condemning innocent deaths both sides to.. whatever the hell this is. You’re just gonna keep arguing in bad faith, I’m not doing this shit. You win, I lose. Have a good night.

@atthegaIlowsend @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 The person who "approves the pilots jobs" in the United States is the head of the federal government lmao

@SadLexify @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 I believe that the pilots and those who approve the pilots jobs are to be held responsible. I don’t believe in collective punishment, it’s a radical idea that solves absolutely nothing and causes more problems. Governments have a responsibility to address what they did wrong.

@atthegaIlowsend @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 Why are you making this weird argument about the pilots? You said the same thing for the drone pilots in Ukraine. We’re talking about two nations at war. Are the countries responsible or just individual actors?

@SadLexify @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 Yeah, the bombings were wrong and I genuinely wish the pilots were held responsible for the crimes they did. You’re still arguing in bad faith, you concede just enough and then retreat back into “russia started it so ukraine can do this”.

@atthegaIlowsend @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 Right, so it should be worse in your mind. Do you wish the US was somehow held accountable for the bombings?

@SadLexify @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 No, you’re arguing in bad faith. The atomic bombings were cruel and I hope those pilots are rotting in hell for what they did. You’re comparing the invasion of ukraine to the total annihilation of two cities and the massive instant deaths it caused.

@atthegaIlowsend @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 Wait, so since the civilian deaths were pointless it’s a false equivalence? So it’s only bad if the civilian deaths lead to an end goal? How backwards is that?

@SadLexify @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 That is an entirely false equivalence because the atomic bombs themselves were pretty pointless and mainly to deter the Soviet Union with a broken and collapsed Japan. Again, just because Russia invaded doesn’t give Ukraine infinite moral authority to do whatever they want to win

@atthegaIlowsend @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 The drones wouldn’t be flying if Russia didn’t invade. Do you believe the United States should have been somehow held accountable for dropping two nuclear bombs on cities?

@SadLexify @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 Yes, Russia started the war. No, that doesn’t give Ukraine infinite morality for how they want because they were the ones invaded. This is purely team-exemption and not logical. There’s someone controlling those drones, those people behind them are to be held accountability.

@atthegaIlowsend @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 Both sides cannot be held accountable. One of the sides is literally not accountable. Ukraine didn’t start the war. They weren’t even the first to bomb civilians. The fault lies 100% with Russia. They are doubly responsible for every death in this conflict that they started.

@SadLexify @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 That’s what it sounded like to me. Both sides should be held accountable for the causes of civilian deaths. But it definitely sounded like you were dismissing because “oh well Russia invaded so..”, that’s my main point here.

@atthegaIlowsend @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 I actually didn't make it sound like that, that's just what you wanted me to believe so it would be easier to argue with me. Civilian death is bad. Russia caused the civilian death. Russia is bad. Does that help?

@SadLexify @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 Well you should word yourself better, because you made it sound like “oh well russia invaded ukraine so who gives a shit if russian civilians are dying”. It’s not a good thing that Ukrainian civilians are dying, neither is it for Russians. It’s senseless violence with no goal.

@atthegaIlowsend @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 They’re not dismissible. They’re wrong. Which is why the Russian invasion of Ukraine is evil. Civilians wouldn’t be dying if Russia didn’t invade Ukraine.

@SadLexify @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 So because Russia chose to invade, their civilians - noncombatants, their deaths are just.. what, dismissible? What type of logic is that. Russia hits power plants in Ukraine, people freeze during winter, Ukraine hits oil and people risk breathing it in. Both should be condemned.

@atthegaIlowsend @TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 Russia could have very easily avoided any civilian death by simply not invading Ukraine. Civilian deaths lay entirely on their hands.

@TrueSlazac @EthanLevins2 There is one thing about supporting Ukraine, and then there’s dehumanizing and treating Russian citizens as if they’re inferior and disposables. If you can’t condemn the deaths of civilians on both sides, your morals are severely flawed and very undermined.

@Rayrod22 @envisionedluna What you're describing isn't society, it's your weird online cult.

@SadLexify @envisionedluna Welcome to society man. This is how our whole system is constructed. Its ppl like you is why the “me too” movement backfired. Guys like al fraken was getting lumped in with guys like bill cosby and harvey weinstein. No wonder young men be gravitating towards idiots like tate

Morally, theres little difference between the big 3 streamers: Hasan, Destiny & Fuentes Only Destiny receives no support because Liberals, despite a decade of failure, are still too elitist &dogmatic to truly weaponize new media But hey Just one more substack bro. Thatll fix it

@Rayrod22 @envisionedluna Yes, I see the difference between people who can acknowledge series moral wrongs without needing to compare them to worse actions in order to make themselves feel better about it and the ones who can't.

@SadLexify @envisionedluna Its wrong to steal a candy bar. I dont think you should be locked up and put behind bars for 10 years. You rob a bank or steal someones life savings you should do major time. See the difference

@Rayrod22 @envisionedluna You literally said it isn't a serious moral wrong

@SadLexify @envisionedluna Not what I said but ok soyboy.

@Rayrod22 @envisionedluna "Violating women's consent? It's not the serious bro" Again, I truly hope you do not regularly interact with women, for their own safety.

@SadLexify @envisionedluna “Serious moral wrong” uh no. Two ppl being gooners doing sex stuff sending it to ppl i dont consider a “serious moral wrong”. He could be in the wrong for assuming implied consent but fine he was wrong. He lost plenty for it. Honestly i think his punishment was harsher.

@Rayrod22 @envisionedluna What are you even talking about? Nobody said anything about the same punishments. I am simply saying he committed a serious moral wrong and should be treated that way, but he isn't.

@SadLexify @envisionedluna You do know theres levels to crimes right? You think a guy slapping a girl on the butt should get the same punishment as a man who raped a chick? No one cares about your virtue signaling bro.

@Rayrod22 @envisionedluna "So what he committed a sex crime, so what guys just move on already" You are as despicable as he is and I really hope you don't often associate with women.

@SadLexify @envisionedluna She was sending shit but said she had “permission” sure ok. I really dont care cuz even if it were true is a misdemeanor in the grand scheme of things. He didnt rape or murder anyone. Pay the fine n move on

@Rayrod22 @envisionedluna They weren’t actually. But even if that’s true, that just makes them both wrong, it doesn’t cancel the moral wrong out lol

@SadLexify @envisionedluna They was both doing that shit.

@missus_wormy I think this is plausible but are there studies on this or is it an assumption? Misogynists have been calling women sluts since long before porn was nearly as prevalent as it is now.

it’s porn. it’s a downstream effect of the third person perspective of most porn