Say no to doctor substitution with non doctors UK
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Say no to doctor substitution with non doctors UK
@Saynotoquackery
Katılım Mart 2024
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@Saynotoquackery @1quarmyn_Owoo @kwakukhing_ @Tamalejayz Precisely,if a patient has visited the hospital and tests need to be run and results given, you’re now coming to do back and forth with the doctor over why they requested the test? It lengthens the medical process. I don’t like your wording but you’re right. It’s impractical
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In all this I blame lab scientists who don’t enforce things they’re thought in school.
A doctor just writes ‘Bf, Widal, H pylori’ on a request form. Nothing else then they also just proceed to run the tests like a zombie
Why won’t they disrespect you.
You’re acting ‘Robot’ there.
Dr. George@GeorgeAnagli
I have a question, if Korle Bu doctors are now insinuating that results from their lab are not credible because of the personnel there, then how have they been diagnosing patients all these years? Which lab results have they been relying on all this while? Should we be worried about that comment? Big case o.
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@Schwarz_Kratos Remind me again who were doing the lab tests before lab scientists were created. Go on strike and see if the tests will not be done.
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@mikelyJK @Schwarz_Kratos You forgot that the resident pathologists and pathologists can do lab tests . Even the drs on the ward will remind u that we all did lab postings in medical school and were taught how to do all the basic blood tests . Don’t inflate ur ego. If u go on strike u may not be noticed
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@PreciousOrla @ChimDrag My sisteru are getting it all wrong.
What they are doing is still within the scope of pathology. Pathology is part or most of MLS +more . (Just the way Ophthalmology is most or all of optometry + more )
They are training to be seniors that understand everything in the lab/path
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@ChimDrag @Saynotoquackery See how you're proving me right.
You now see that you people are then ones encroaching into other professionals' jurisdiction while we mind our own business.
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@PreciousOrla @drmedinho In that case I think they will be supervised by their trainers ( pathologists). That’s why pathologists also know how to run the tests.
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@drmedinho @Saynotoquackery You're toooo insignificant for me to come online and lie about my own experience
Silly.
Let's even for a second accept they're residents who are STILL in training like you said, so it's okay for them to do calls run patient samples and give results w/o supervision from an MLS?
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@0xPolymath_I @dr_bandak When an illiterate speaks people will know. You are just an illiterate
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@dr_bandak The lab. Physicians should prepare to do urine R/E and everything else because the lab. Scientists will leave it for them since they want to work in the lab.
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Good news.
The strike has been suspended, and that is the right outcome.
We should all be able to coexist as colleagues.
At the end of the day, many of us sat in the same classrooms. Same biology class. Same ambitions. Different paths.
Today, I even saw one of my biological science classmates, now a principal medical laboratory scientist, making strong arguments. That is how it should be. 😅
We are not enemies.
We are one health workforce.
Doctors, pharmacists, medical laboratory scientists, nurses.
Different roles. Same mission.
The real issue should never be about personalities.
It should be about roles.
No system works when one excludes the other.
And no system should ever reach a point where patient care is disrupted because roles are not clearly defined.
Always remember that healthcare is organized for patient outcomes.

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@Tamalejayz @1quarmyn_Owoo @kwakukhing_ Recommend further test ,
New teaching to the doctor because he doesn’t know right ?
You just want to make yourself more relevant. Do the test and print out the result . I can call the pathologist to discuss more if need be , thank you .
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@Saynotoquackery @1quarmyn_Owoo @kwakukhing_ this is why the doctors details must be on a REQUEST form, you can call to enquire why a test is requested. Then further go ahead to recommend a further test based on diagnosis, history or results. THANK YOU
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@1quarmyn_Owoo @kwakukhing_ @Tamalejayz You don't have a choice, and must do them except you have a reason to believe they have been done very recently sms results won't change. You want to use this and stroke yout ego too? Request or order, you will end up doing it or you will be queried.
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@kwakukhing_ @Tamalejayz They will write diagnosis ( not to respect you but bcos it is needed ) . They are not asking for your permission to run the test or to vet the request. It is an order and you must Perform the tests on the request.
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@Tamalejayz Exactly!!
My fellow MLS don’t conduct any tests without diagnoses from the physician..
The disrespect has to stop!!!
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@GeorgeAnagli Every one in health care is now a doctor. Every direction doctor doctor doctor; congratulations to all of you.
Patients will really be confused. Worst time and era to be a patient.
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I have a question, if Korle Bu doctors are now insinuating that results from their lab are not credible because of the personnel there, then how have they been diagnosing patients all these years? Which lab results have they been relying on all this while?
Should we be worried about that comment? Big case o.
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@PreciousOrla I see. They are residents training in pathology. Just work together with them . Teach them what they don’t know yet and vice versa. I now completely understand you.
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@Saynotoquackery They literally do calls in the lab, last week of the month
I kept asking why and till I left the answer I got was 'that's how it is done here', so I stopped asking, reason I brought it online, and I found out there were other hospitals that do the same.
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@PreciousOrla Is there a possibility that they are doctors doing residency in pathology; that are not qualified pathologists yet ?
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@PreciousOrla This is shocking and unbelievable.
That shouldn’t have happened , it should have not be happening.
So will they leave the patients and go to the lab and be running tests ?
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@PreciousOrla Or are they medical students that are currently doing pathology.
They do lab postings to get practical knowledge of the lab tests , how they are done and etc. Definitely not to work there . Do they want to be consulting the reagents in the lab ?😁
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@Saynotoquackery Now this is how the conversation should have gone innit?
Why did you have to start with insults 🫠?
Cos that's exactly the question I asked March last year, both the doctors and my senior colleagues and I didn't get any reasonable answer
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@PreciousOrla I am not a lab physician( pathologist ie - haematologist, histo pathologists, microbiologist,etc ) and I wouldn’t want to be in the lab because I will be useless there. 😁
Wondering what those drs want to do there if they are not pathologists or residents. . Just curious Adanne.
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@Saynotoquackery I've not for once argued this if you noticed
But then again, that was not what happened that led to me asking that question.
These people were not laboratory physicians as you call them
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@PreciousOrla Do you need my credentials to believe ?😊
I can send them to you later , in the meantime enjoy your life as I enjoy my gym work out. 🏋️
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@Saynotoquackery That's the problem over inflated ego.
You have no idea, no single idea of my experience but because you're a consultant(which I don't believe),
You could have calmed down to ask proper questions cos you're soooo wrong yet soooo loud.
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@PreciousOrla If a Medical consultant is not grounded please tell me who is .
By the way , the doctors you talked abt are probably residents training in pathology . They need to know everything including being able to run the tests.
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@Saynotoquackery The hospital where I did my internship, doctors were in fact 'sharing urine and feces' that MLS work on.
Again who mentioned pathologists?
Are you a student? Cos you don't seem to be grounded enough for this conversation.
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@PreciousOrla So if you know that pathologists are at a diff lane from yours , and that they don’t want to share with urine and feaces that you work on , then what is your problem with pathologists then ?
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@Saynotoquackery Are you usually this dumb?
Cos if you were smart you'll know that it is not a competition.
We serve at different capacities in our different jurisdictions.
My major concern is the patient and not your dumb ass
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@anonymous_cecil @_iamsamani You are not educated, so nothing that I need to know abt.
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@Saynotoquackery @_iamsamani You’re talking plenty without even knowing my educational background
Mokasa ooh 😂😂😂😂😂
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I just watched this interview of a Korle Bu doctor explaining the strike and I’m honestly angry.
Saying lab professionals “don’t have the training to correlate results with clinical findings” is simply false. Clinical correlation is part of our training. It’s exactly why we ask for DIAGNOSIS on request forms.
You cannot send incomplete forms with no diagnosis, then turn around and say labs can’t correlate results.
ALSO, The claim that labs have been producing “nonsensical” results for 10–15 years is not just inaccurate, it’s reckless. If that were true, we would have system-wide clinical failure, no routine care still functioning across the country.
Lab medicine is not guesswork. It’s a regulated discipline built on SOPs, internal QC, EQA schemes, validation protocols and trained professionals who understand both the analytics and the clinical context.
And since we’re talking about “why tests are repeated” and “why revenue drops,” let’s not pretend there aren’t other drivers. There are well-known practices where requests are redirected to private labs so that you the prescribers get a commission and we know it all too well and that has to be part of the conversation too.
If there are specific cases of poor quality, present the data, audit it, fix it. But blanket statements about incompetence???? After training for 6 plus years I beg to differ!
We all want patient safety. That requires accurate testing, proper clinical information and honest collaboration. Not selective narratives that place blame on one group while ignoring the full picture.
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