@nothingeverhaps @Simon349689 @BenDover1815 I am going to slap a big Fell For It Again Award on this reply in 33 days
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Scott Goetz
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There is absolutely zero chance Restore wins this seat but some probability they assist Burnham in becoming PM by taking votes from Reform, thus leading to much more liberal immigration policies for 3 years. This is what they are campaigning for.
Restore Britain@RestoreBritain_
It begins.
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@Jacob_Barden Grudge and the podcasting careers of the people pretending to be Lowe. All it is.
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@ScottGoetz_ And they are actually very well aware of this, too. They’re denying it because admitting it concedes their party was founded on a grudge rather than actual conviction.
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@Augustus__J Not an argument on this is desirable, just revelling in defeat as usual.
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@ScottGoetz_ Shouldn't have let them outflank you on the most serious policy matter of our age then
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@ScottGoetz_ @BenDover1815 50% of Makerfield electorate didn’t vote in the last general election. Restore Britain will tap into that.
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Many of their own prominent activists have admitted as much, it is moronic they are going through with this after avoiding local elections entirely. Only serves the interests of their narcissistic clique of leaders who want to be in the news.
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@johnpmerrick It’s a compelling slogan that is about 100 years out of date from what the left actually demands of the taxpayer.
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Well you literally do think the current rates of taxation on people who make 150% of the average income are insufficient for your vast redistributive projects but you will refuse to say it so there’s very little point in carrying this on.
John Merrick@johnpmerrick
“The problem with the left is they are too cowardly to say some mad thing I’ve made up”
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Wealth taxes are nonsense that cannot fund much further uplift in the earnings of the non working poor. There just aren’t enough billionaires. These people want your pay packet but will never say that is how they think the world should work.
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What world do these guys live in?
Scott Goetz@ScottGoetz_
There is cowardice in the modern left where they have become unable to say people who earn 150% of the national average income should have vast sums of money taken from them to pay for people who do not work. It’s how the system works. It’s what they believe. Just say it.
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@johnpmerrick It is a scarce good and you think a lot of it should be allocated by non market mechanisms but you aren’t spelling out what the alternative mechanisms should be because it will turn out you mean people who choose not to work deserve more than those who do.
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@ScottGoetz_ What the hell are you on about? I think everyone should have access to good housing
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We could have the existing level of state and cease allocating every single benefit to Shaheed rather than James but the left would be virulently opposed to giving council houses to normal people.
John Merrick@johnpmerrick
The idea that this could ever be an argument for *less* state and for the politics of resentment is mad.
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If the NEC had vetoed Burnham they would have been essentially gifting Makerfield to Reform. Wonder if that had any role in the seat selection, doubt they would care as much about a Green/Labour one.
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Both sides don’t understand each other, but only one of these sides is asking the other to lend potentially hundreds of billions of pounds, so this feels very much like a Them problem
Theo Bertram@theobertram
There are very few Labour MPs who worked in the city. That's typically not their professional or social circle. So the understanding of the people who hold our debt and why they make decisions is not good. But the reverse is also true of city folks understanding Labour MPs.
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If The City accurately understood the motivations of Labour MPs they would become very anxious about lending them any more money.
Theo Bertram@theobertram
It would serve both sides well to spend more time together and understand each other's motivations and constraints.
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There is cowardice in the modern left where they have become unable to say people who earn 150% of the national average income should have vast sums of money taken from them to pay for people who do not work. It’s how the system works. It’s what they believe. Just say it.
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