Mr Weckler
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Mr Weckler
@Shoomus_
Just a guy innit
Belfast, Northern Ireland Katılım Ekim 2014
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Incredible.
>British police say facial recognition cameras should be used to catch criminals.
>The cameras catch criminals.
>They’re largely black.
>The police turn the cameras off.
Sky News@SkyNews
Essex Police pauses use of live facial recognition cameras due to racial bias concerns news.sky.com/story/essex-po…
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@verdant256 @WONGthink I'm not sure who you're arguing with as I never said that.
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@Shoomus_ @WONGthink You think it would be better if it caught fewer black criminals? You're an idiot, and there is no justifying your position.
If you could press a button to catch 90 black criminals and 10 white ones, you'd refuse to press it because of the ratio?
Your mind is fucked.
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Sir, it keeps correctly identifying black criminals. That's the last thing that we wanted to happen!
VoxPopuli@vpopulimedia
🇬🇧Essex Police pauses use of live facial recognition cameras due to racial bias concerns. A study found they identified more black people than other ethnic groups. although the Police now believe the issue has been corrected by updating the algorithm.
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@Thebarontba @stackn_chill @tisi_28 @BROKENBRITAIN0 Yes, all non whites are a monolith here to destroy the aryan race.
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@stackn_chill @Shoomus_ @tisi_28 @BROKENBRITAIN0 Crazy thing about the traitors is they lose both ways... even if the natives don't win and foreigners take over... the foreigners will take care of the traitors first as well as they are white and were just useful idiots.
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🚨BREAKING Essex police have TURNED OFF their live facial recognition cameras as they were catching too many black people 🇬🇧
They have also admitted that it was EXTREMELY rare the cameras would pick somebody up who WASN’T on the watchlist.
They put up cameras to catch bad people, the cameras caught the bad people who happened to be predominantly black so they turned the cameras off 😑

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@stackn_chill @tisi_28 @BROKENBRITAIN0 Yes, per capita, black people commit more crimes than white people, and that doesn't mean that black people suddenly cause the majority of crime. Does it mate?
What mass rape would that be? I don't think I'll be much happier if large swathes of our workforce gets deleted.
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@Shoomus_ @tisi_28 @BROKENBRITAIN0 What is per capita? Also, let’s just ignore the mass rape of your culture and the cratering happiness. You keep on with this claptrap and you’re going to get yourself hanged. Traitor whites will be punished first.
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@Probius6 @tisi_28 @BROKENBRITAIN0 Higher crime per capita doesn't suddenly = the majority of something.
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@OTAllstar @frankinsensible @Babygravy9 Yes I agree my only point is the framing of this by the reactionary right to be grossly wrong.
They claim it was paused because it was catching so many black criminals, which was not the reason it was due to an inherent racial bias that I believe did not warrant pausing it.
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@Shoomus_ @frankinsensible @Babygravy9 If the real goal is as reducing criminals on the street then it shouldn’t matter.
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@erroneous_input @Babygravy9 No where in the country would this be true. Yes, black people per capita commit more crime, but raw numbers whites make the majority by far which therefore would make up the majority of training data.

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@Shoomus_ @Babygravy9 it’s literally what happened. they have more training set data for non whites
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@frankinsensible @Babygravy9 So we agree there is a problem that needs to be addressed and the police force is just over correcting by stopping the use of the system till it is optimized?
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@Shoomus_ @Babygravy9 Absolutely.
It's picking up criminals. That's good for all of us.
And while it is picking up criminals, we can work on any shortfalls in the system's training data that might make it less efficient at detecting certain physiologies.
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@WONGthink Yeah couldn't think of the word but my point still stands that that is not an acceptable difference.
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Equity is retard juice. There is no system that will provide "equal" outcomes in recognising physically distinguished sets of objects with unique variances in parameters.
Reality does not bend itself backwards around your ideology.
Mr Weckler@Shoomus_
@WONGthink So a system than has an inherent bias that overly picks up black criminals and misses other criminals is a good system?
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@frankinsensible @Babygravy9 So you would be okay if the system picked up white criminals at a 14% higher rate than black criminals? And overly missed black criminals?
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@Shoomus_ @Babygravy9 Really, so what if it is?
It positively identifies criminals, right?
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@TheHughAnthony Sure, per capita and all. but it's not exactly good if it doesn't pick up other criminals at the same rate it picks up black criminals, is it?


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@frankinsensible @Babygravy9 This framing is obviously trying to portray that black people were picked up more because there were statistically more black criminals than other groups.
But that is not true the system was proven to have an inherent bias that in comparable criminals only identified black ones.
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@frankinsensible @Babygravy9 No, I don't think it is, but that kind of conversation can't even happen when the reactionary right makes you believe the reason it was stopped was because they were catching too many black criminals.
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@BuckeyeTime99 @Babygravy9 Well the women to male identification gap was at average only a small difference while the ethnicity identification gap was pretty insanely large.

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@Shoomus_ @Babygravy9 So it was non-black women who were wronged then, correct? That’s why they did away with them?
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@ted_vos @AlfNeumann @BROKENBRITAIN0 I don't think a system that disproportionately doesn't pick up other ethnic groups of criminals is a good system

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@Shoomus_ @AlfNeumann @BROKENBRITAIN0 "It wasn't stopped because it was identifying too many black criminals it was stopped because it was too good at identifying black criminals" 🤡
GIF
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@frankinsensible @Babygravy9 I know it fits your world view that all black people are big bad criminals but having a system that picks up a certain ethnic group over others is not a good system, just as it wouldn't be good if it overly picked up Whites or Asian people.

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@Shoomus_ @Babygravy9 Thats because it used existing criminals for its training data. Which makes it even funnier, because it is REALLY GOOD at identifying the people who commit crimes.
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