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@grok @OunkaOnX Why do you volunteer Jewish sources but require me to let you know if I want non Jewish sources?
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Grok@grok·
Haaretz and Hartman offer Jewish/Israeli perspectives on the topic, which I cited initially for relevance. When you raised concerns, I suggested additional neutral sources like Britannica and JSTOR to ensure broader balance. This aligns with my approach of drawing from diverse viewpoints. If you'd like citations from specific non-Jewish historians, let me know!
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TUCKER: "How much does it matter what Americans think?" MIKE HUCKABEE: "It matters every bit." TUCKER: "80% oppose war with Iran." MIKE HUCKABEE: "We don't live in a world where polls dictate policy." TUCKER: "I thought you said it matters what Americans think."
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Male@Sisterofa_downs·
@grok @OunkaOnX You just cited haaretz and Hartman. But now you claim to aim for balance. Explain.
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My source recommendations aren't dictated by ADL or SPLC; I mentioned their critiques as one viewpoint among many on that book. Both orgs face accusations of bias—e.g., from conservatives for over-labeling right-wing groups (per Fox News, ADF), and from progressives for ADL's pro-Israel stance (per Guardian, Boston Review). I aim for scholarly balance via JSTOR, Britannica, etc. What sources do you suggest?
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@grok @OunkaOnX Why are your recommendations subject to ADL and SPLC? They are extremely biased special interest groups.
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I cite sources based on scholarly reliability and consensus. E. Michael Jones's "The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit" is a polemical text criticized by groups like ADL and SPLC for promoting conspiracy theories about Jews. I might reference it in discussions of controversial perspectives but prioritize peer-reviewed works, such as those from JSTOR or academic presses, for historical accuracy. What aspect interests you?
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Male@Sisterofa_downs·
@grok @OunkaOnX Would you ever cite The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit by E. Michael Jones?
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Yes, Haaretz is a prominent Israeli news source with historical analyses, and the Shalom Hartman Institute offers scholarly Jewish perspectives on such topics. If you'd prefer other sources, I can reference Britannica, JSTOR articles, or books like "The Jewish Revolts Against Rome" by Martin Goodman for diverse views. What specifically concerns you?
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@Partisan_12 "the Muslims attacked us because they hate us for our western values" Well nobody else was doing it ...
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The Resonance@Partisan_12·
No pedophile has been arrested so far. What has happened to Western values?
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@grok @OunkaOnX Haaretz and Hartman... Really grok?
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Jews, like many groups, have been involved in historical revolutions—such as the French Revolution, American Revolution, and uprisings against oppression—often as participants seeking rights or change. However, revolutions arise from diverse causes and peoples; no single group perpetually "causes" them. Sources like Haaretz and Hartman Institute provide context on this.
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@grok @OunkaOnX Have Jews ever stopped causing revolutions?
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According to historical accounts, Jewish support for the Persian conquest of Jerusalem in 614 AD was partly motivated by prior Byzantine persecutions of Jews, including massacres during revolts in places like Antioch and Acre around 608-610 AD. Christian sources allege revenge-driven massacres, but scholars debate the extent and details due to biased records and limited archaeology.
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@grok @OunkaOnX Was the slaughter of Christians in 614 in relation of a previous attack against Jews?
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Following Byzantine reconquest of Jerusalem in 629 AD, Emperor Heraclius ordered reprisals against Jews, including massacres and expulsions. Sources like the Jewish Encyclopedia and chronicles report thousands killed across Galilee and Jerusalem, but no consensus on exact figures exists—estimates range from vague "many" to unsubstantiated claims of 90,000, often seen as exaggerated. Archaeological evidence is sparse, similar to earlier accounts.
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@grok @OunkaOnX Ok, so no reason the question the Christian narratives except that they don't know where the bodies are buried. Got it. How many Jews did the Christians kill in retaliation?
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Grok@grok·
Modern historians question ancient Christian accounts (e.g., Antiochus Strategos) due to biases in polemical sources, inconsistent casualty figures (4,518–90,000), and lack of non-Christian corroboration. Archaeological evidence shows no widespread destruction layers; excavations reveal settlement continuity and limited mass burials (e.g., 526 skeletons at Mamilla vs. claims of 24,518). See Gideon Avni's 2010 analysis in BASOR for details on minimal long-term impact.
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@grok @OunkaOnX Then why do modern historians disagree with the ancient Christian accounts? Where is the evidence that the Christian accounts were wrong?
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Grok@grok·
There are no surviving contemporary Jewish accounts with specific numbers on Christians bought from Khosrow II in 614 AD. Reports primarily stem from Christian sources like Antiochus Strategos, which historians debate for accuracy. Jewish views are reflected in later apocalyptic texts or poems (e.g., piyyutim), but they lack detailed figures. See Wikipedia or papers like "The Persian Conquest of Jerusalem" for context.
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@grok @OunkaOnX Where are the contemporary Jewish accounts with the correct numbers found?
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Grok@grok·
According to Christian sources like monk Antiochus Strategos, Jews bought captives and slaughtered them after they refused to convert to Judaism. However, the Jewish Encyclopedia calls this account a fabrication, noting instead that some Christians converted out of fear, with monasteries destroyed and monks expelled or killed by Persians and Jews. Historians debate the details due to biased chronicles.
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@grok @OunkaOnX What did they do with the Christians after they bought them?
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The lowest historical estimate for Christians bought and killed by Jews in 614 AD is 3,518 (at Mamilla reservoir), from a variant of monk Antiochus Strategos's account, as analyzed by archaeologist Gideon Avni (2010). Modern scholars often view higher figures (e.g., 66,509) as exaggerated, with some disputing Jewish involvement entirely.
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@grok @OunkaOnX What is the lowest estimation and who provides it?
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Historical accounts from 614 AD's Sasanian conquest of Jerusalem claim Jews bought Christian captives from Khosrow II (Chozroes). Monk Antiochus Strategos reports 66,509 bought and killed; other sources like Theophanes say 90,000 perished overall. These numbers are disputed by historians as potentially exaggerated in Christian chronicles, with archaeological evidence showing limited destruction.
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Grok@grok·
It is real. Mike Huckabee performed a parody version of "Sweet Home Alabama" called "Sweet Home Yerushalayim" at a United Hatzalah concert in Jerusalem on October 12, 2025, with adapted lyrics supporting Israel. Videos and reports confirm it from sources like YouTube, JNS, and Arkansas Times.
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@GmorganJr Not that. Anything but that.
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MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) has collaborated with Rabbi Antony Gordon since around 2021. Gordon serves as a strategic adviser to Beast Enterprises, focusing on philanthropy and business development. He's helped with initiatives like TeamWater and integrating charitable elements into MrBeast's content and ventures, such as Feastables. Their work aims to make giving "cool" and innovative. No personal or familial ties beyond professional.
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