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@NaughtyLiberal @AqifAtif @liverfoolegy @sebastien_c123 The entire ID rests on the faulty assumption that the confirmation is absolute. Without that presupposition, the ID doesn’t even get off the ground

@AqifAtif @liverfoolegy @sebastien_c123 As per Qur'an, the Tawrat, Zabur and Injeel were all your Allah's revelation, and these books were affirmed by the Qur'an. But these books contradict the Quran, making the Qur'an false

The “Islamic dilemma” argument is the definition of low IQ goy slop

@RepelleTenebras @sheharyar0503 @Yammoune777 @sneako Besides the fact revelation isn’t trustworthy, the timeline does not match Islamic eschatology. In the Bible, the two evil figures come first, on the same team, and then Jesus arrives. In Islam, the first two figures that arrive are against one another.

Revelation and Daniel. In Islam there is only 1 individual seen as the antichrist correct? Not accompanied by another figure. In the Bible it mentions 2 figures the antichrist and the false prophet. The biblical antichrist is a person who brings peace, establishes a world religion, changes laws, denies the divinity of Christ, and is accompanied by a false prophet.

Al-Aqsa is closed on Eid for the first time since 1967 because Mossad planted 9/11 style bombs there. After the explosion they will blame it on Iran. It is not about freeing gays and prostitutes, this war is so jews can build the third temple and summon the Anti-Christ.

@RudyGoobar @cobyy92 @evil_meowie @hyugagged They were nerfed. This also isn’t relevant to his point.

@cobyy92 @evil_meowie @SorryAyy @hyugagged You mean the same Hashirama that couldn't hold a candle against an old Sarutobi, even with his own brother and Orochimaru? You're just proving Kishimoto's inconsistency.

they granted him total amnesty and now he's on konoha's first lady's close circle btw

@evil_meowie @hyugagged The elders and family do not run the villages from the shadows anymore. The kage are ultimate commanders of all the shinobi. Even if they don’t have “absolute” control they still strongly affect the culture. You’re simply making up something not in evidence

@evil_meowie @Kaper_OP @hyugagged

@Kaper_OP @evil_meowie @hyugagged Their gold dust trade kept them making money during the series iirc. Now that it’s peaceful and they don’t need to spend so much on maintaining an army, they can actually be more prosperous by focusing attention elsewhere

@evil_meowie @SorryAyy @hyugagged Just because that’s what was shown doesn’t mean it’s the only way they generate income. You could also argue that Suna has very few resources due to the nature of its land (this was stated somewhere in the manga) it's just desert, so missions make up the core of its economy

@evil_meowie @Kaper_OP @hyugagged need to spend so much money on defense and wouldn’t feel the need to start a war to maintain their interests)

@evil_meowie @Kaper_OP @hyugagged You’re literally just ignoring what we’re telling you about the other ways to make money 😭 (Also, a key thing you’re forgetting is that BECAUSE there was no peace, Suna is forced to spend money to keep and rear a defensible shinobi population. In a peaceful world they wouldn’t-

@evil_meowie @Kaper_OP @hyugagged Shinobi activities are scaled down, which is why I mentioned at the beginning the emphasis on other sectors that make money There will still be minor conflicts and criminals that need shinobi to deal with, they just won’t be borne by villages. Peace provides opportunity 4 growth

@SorryAyy @Kaper_OP @hyugagged Okay, there are no more assassinations, espionage or shady dealings, how do the Shinobi make money then? How much can those low level missions from the start of the anime make? Does saving cats from trees really sustain an economy?

@evil_meowie @Kaper_OP @hyugagged He did, and you’re just coping with the fact that it did indeed change with “the manga is pretending”

@Kaper_OP @SorryAyy @hyugagged he didn't tho, thats the thing

@evil_meowie @hyugagged Yeah sorry but shinobi existing and doing missions for money is not inherently wrong. Thats not a blameworthy system. The bad part is villages being at war, dark underground activities, Cold War leading to children killing each other, forcing kids to become monsters.

@evil_meowie @hyugagged Notice how you never defined “the system” nor explained how it’s the same. It objectively changed. Villages work together. No more forcing people to become tools of war. The “dark shinobi activities” only served selfish interests at the expense of other villages and nations.

@evil_meowie @hyugagged No, they did not before. They were selfish and held grudges. Naruto’s ideology of cooperation and forgiveness, which new individuals like Gaara helped push in the 4gnw, which in turn affected people like Ohnoki, etc led to a cultural shift.

@SorryAyy @hyugagged did they just not before? "everyone is just friends now" is still no explanation

@evil_meowie @hyugagged Naruto changes many things. Besides the fact that all villages cooperate, there is no more imposed jinchuriki system, the Chunin exams are non-deadly, no more “dark” shinobi activities, greater emphasis on infrastructure, commerce, and other facets of shinobi villages, etc

@evil_meowie @hyugagged It absolutely is not logical to conclude. In fact it goes directly against what’s stated in the series. The show does offer explanation, but it seems you missed it. They villages cooperate with each other for mutual benefit and because they genuinely want and enjoy peace

@evil_meowie @hyugagged *Gets proven wrong* “The manga is just pretending!”

@SorryAyy @hyugagged yeah the manga can pretend that makes sense all it wants

@evil_meowie @hyugagged Not only is this completely wrong, it’s disproven by the fact that Naruto has been “dead” for years yet the villages are still working together as normally.

@hyugagged this is pretty much representative of the "change" Naruto brought to the shinobi world in the end punish none of the criminals, change nothing in the system, leave everything as it was before, the only difference is that he is basically a god now so no one will try shit

@_demola_jr @IjazTheTrini @GodLogic_GL Says the one who completely disregarded the point and continued in ignorance

@SorryAyy @IjazTheTrini @GodLogic_GL Yeah sit this one out if you have no meaningful input to offer

The Quran guarantees that EVERYONE, including Muslims, will go to Hell, and only the God-fearing are taken out. Quran 19:71-72 NOT ONE OF YOU there is, but HE SHALL GO DOWN TO IT...then we SHALL DELIVER THOSE that were god-fearing; and the EVILDOERS WE SHALL LEAVE THERE...

@_demola_jr @IjazTheTrini @GodLogic_GL Projection

@SorryAyy @IjazTheTrini @GodLogic_GL Bland conclusion without any argumentation. Come back here when you're ready